Will he come back and win one of the 4 main straps?
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Will he come back and win one of the 4 main straps?
Good luck to him but I doubt it, after having life that soft for so long its much harder to get real hard again. It'll be a bigger test of grit this time around plus he's been out cold get hit that hard again unseen and the body can go into shut down a touch easier.
I am going to judge him from his comeback performance, if he looks good then why cant he beat Paulie again? Hes done it once he can do it again. But Paulie does look a lot better at 147 and I reckon it would be a better fight. I would watch it, its interesting how Khan will fight in too because Hatton - Khan in the UK would be massive!
Not a real one. Sadly.
sorry but at this point a rematch with Malignaggi at 147 is pretty much a toss up, especially depending on how much Hatton has left
We really have no idea what Hatton has to offer right now. What we do know is that his chin and stamina were becoming suspect even towards the end before and Hatton has only behaved worse since being out, it's really a massive ask.
I will just see his comeback fight and go from there. In truth none of us knows what to expect, but the omens were ominous in those last few fights. Malignaggi could never hurt a fly, but Hatton was stopped twice and rocked by an inactive LW.
I will be willing him on, but I am uncertain about it all.
Fuck no. I expect his come back to end in a somewhat shocking upset loss to a middling fighter.
I dont think he will beat any1 at world level that includes pauli malignaggi. Hatton was on the slide when he retired and with hatton fighting at 147lb in his comeback venture, that weight never suited him when he was nearer to his prime.
If he can keep his hands up and protect that chin abit more and show some of his old form ,i give him a shot at beating khan just because khan can not handle pressure fighters and carnt fight on the inside.
I think, because he is such a ticket seller, he will get an easy title shot and may well win it. Never gonna beat a truly elite figher though.
Pauline would stop him if they had a rematch. Paulie has looked great
Hatton can easily pick up a WBU title and defend it a couple of times. He could find an easy champion to beat for the better tiles but he will never be the top fighter he once was, ever. 3 years is a long time and age cannot be avoided.
Coming out of retirement is tough for fighters, even great ones like Hatton. If this comeback has Hatton's full dedication then I can see him with a belt and if he concentrates on keeping that belt, he will do well.
If Ricky starts a run for P4P by fighting the best, he will crash and burn again in my opinion.
In the words of Henry Cooper, it's a funny old game boxing and he's right is he not H, Ricky will noQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
doubt make a large sum of money on his come back.
Some make a come back and have some success, has he taken to much punishment in the past, is
that fine body punching style still there,! lots of questions but the only answer when Rickys back in
that ring Will we NO.
Even a 75% hatton beats judah and maidana!
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Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
For all your "Google-driven", boxing philosophical ramblings, you know precious little about boxing.
Judah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
Yeah maybe... or Judah is so mentally distraught at the pressure he's under he gives up after the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
I don't know if this is known but I fucken damn near cried when Pacquiao annihilated Hatton nearly four years ago. I mean I properly mourned. Went though the whole grieving cycle... Nearly four years ago... I don't really look forward to that again. I relaised then that I was a MASSIVE Hatton fan. The Hatton I was a fan of isn't there now so (it pains me to confess) I'm not a fan now.
I was a fan of the Hatton that struggled with the average Magee or the now awol Collazo. They were the type of fights he shouldn't dare of getting involved in again. He'd be lucky to survive a fight like the one he had against that Ingle trained fella.
No, I don't think he'll be a World Champion. He may well fight one... But he'll suffer for it.
I certainly will :(
Judah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
Not just no...
But hell the FOOK no.
Fuck off mate, you're boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
I think the 4 that voted for Hatton winning a world title again forgot that the WBU isn't one of the big 4 sanctioning bodies.
Hatton has precious little chance of ever winning a world title again. I reckon maybe a British or European strap tops, but Euro would be a massive stretch. As Gandalf said, his stamina and chin were already beginning to go so it's not like coming back AFTER his massive drugs bender and becoming obese are going to have helped that.
Come on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
This is what I'm thinking. If he has any sort of form left, he'll probably be manouvered into winning a trinket on account of being such a big draw. Whether he'd even want to go up against anyone truly dangerous is another thing entirely. I haven't been keeping up with boxing for the last month or so, assuming he plans to fight at 147 though? I think considering a Malignaggi rematch makes so much sense that will likely be his shot to.
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Originally Posted by AlthugzCome on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
So now Respected long term posters are trolls? All because they disagree with your limited and miniscule knowledge of boxing. Well done there goes the last scrap of your tattered credibility.
Apparently hes fighting Katsidis...
Did I call Big H a troll? Don't put words into my mouth. I was clearly alluding to what that div, Philosopher said.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzCome on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
So now Respected long term posters are trolls? All because they disagree with your limited and miniscule knowledge of boxing. Well done there goes the last scrap of your tattered credibility.
For all the big words you attempt to use, you're not the brightest spark are you, Beanz? I thought it was quite obvious who I was directing the troll comment to. Better luck next time trying to score brownie points..
Judah is done. The guy, like you was always a muppet. Hatton, even a faded Hatton stops him earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzDid I call Big H a troll? Don't put words into my mouth. I was clearly alluding to what that div, Philosopher said.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzCome on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
So now Respected long term posters are trolls? All because they disagree with your limited and miniscule knowledge of boxing. Well done there goes the last scrap of your tattered credibility.
For all the big words you attempt to use, you're not the brightest spark are you, Beanz? I thought it was quite obvious who I was directing the troll comment to. Better luck next time trying to score brownie points..
Oh so now you want to discuss the topic at hand? Quite hilarious..If that fight ever happens we'll have some kind of meaningless bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzJudah is done. The guy, like you was always a muppet. Hatton, even a faded Hatton stops him earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzDid I call Big H a troll? Don't put words into my mouth. I was clearly alluding to what that div, Philosopher said.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzCome on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
So now Respected long term posters are trolls? All because they disagree with your limited and miniscule knowledge of boxing. Well done there goes the last scrap of your tattered credibility.
For all the big words you attempt to use, you're not the brightest spark are you, Beanz? I thought it was quite obvious who I was directing the troll comment to. Better luck next time trying to score brownie points..
I wouldn't hold my breath If I was unfortunate enough to be youQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzOh so now you want to discuss the topic at hand? Quite hilarious..If that fight ever happens we'll have some kind of meaningless bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzJudah is done. The guy, like you was always a muppet. Hatton, even a faded Hatton stops him earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzDid I call Big H a troll? Don't put words into my mouth. I was clearly alluding to what that div, Philosopher said.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzCome on, BIG H - Judah is all wrong for Hatton. Southpaw, slick, fast, powerful - Hatton would need to drag him into the later rounds to make him lose focus. I don't think Hatton would last that long. Maybe in his prime but a 75%, old man, Hatton? Crazy troll talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HJudah aint done shit at top level. Who has he ever beaten? Witter? De Corley? Everytime he has stepped up he's been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHJudah would have absolutely massacred even a prime Hatton; I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse match up for him. Judah was a slick southpaw counter-puncher with power in both hands. He would have hit Hatton with punches he never saw coming and I dont think Hatton would last to the mid-rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
If Hatton even has even half a chin left and a shred of defense, he can beat Maidana. I do agree with that.
So now Respected long term posters are trolls? All because they disagree with your limited and miniscule knowledge of boxing. Well done there goes the last scrap of your tattered credibility.
For all the big words you attempt to use, you're not the brightest spark are you, Beanz? I thought it was quite obvious who I was directing the troll comment to. Better luck next time trying to score brownie points..
Ok, ill say it again, Hatton is apparently fighting Michael Katsidis in his comeback fight;)
Yeah you said that already. Good payday for the Aussie/Greek Gladiator, but a bit of a step up weight wise for him to trouble even a shot glass chinned Hatton too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
it's being reported on several sitesQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
By Scott Gilfoid: Ricky Hatton (45-2, 32 KO’s) will be taking a major risk in his first comeback fight by taking on the tough as nails Michael Katsidis (28-6, 23 KO’s) rather than an easy stiff, which is what Hatton probably should be fighting. The Dailystar is reporting that the 32-year-old Katsidis will be Hatton’s next opponent on November 24th at the Manchester Arena (formerly M.E.N Arena), Manchester, Lancashire, UK. Hatton will probably have a significant weight advantage over Katsidis for this fight. Katsidis proved recently that he’s too small to fight at light welterweight, and you got to figure that Hatton will be fighting Katsidis at 147. In other words, Katsidis could end up moving up two entire weight divisions to take the fight. Maybe with that kind of advantage Hatton can win.
- if true sounds like typical boxing bollocks :mad:
hang your heads in shame & I hope Katsidis puts him back into retirement
Michael Katsidis vs. Ricky Hatton on November 24th
What..... Ivan Calderon wasn't available?
To be fair, Katsidis is done and he himself knows it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyit's being reported on several sitesQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
By Scott Gilfoid: Ricky Hatton (45-2, 32 KO’s) will be taking a major risk in his first comeback fight by taking on the tough as nails Michael Katsidis (28-6, 23 KO’s) rather than an easy stiff, which is what Hatton probably should be fighting. The Dailystar is reporting that the 32-year-old Katsidis will be Hatton’s next opponent on November 24th at the Manchester Arena (formerly M.E.N Arena), Manchester, Lancashire, UK. Hatton will probably have a significant weight advantage over Katsidis for this fight. Katsidis proved recently that he’s too small to fight at light welterweight, and you got to figure that Hatton will be fighting Katsidis at 147. In other words, Katsidis could end up moving up two entire weight divisions to take the fight. Maybe with that kind of advantage Hatton can win.
- if true sounds like typical boxing bollocks :mad:
hang your heads in shame & I hope Katsidis puts him back into retirement
Michael Katsidis vs. Ricky Hatton on November 24th
This fight will give him an opportunity to go out with a bang. Big payday, big audience and even a chance to get himself another title shot should he pull the upset.
Dont feel sorry for Katsidis, hes probably thanking his lucky stars. There arent any other opportunities of this scale available to him.
At the very least, this will be a fun fight while it lasts.
Taking a page from Oscar de la Hoya's "How to Ride off into the Sunset by Beating a Big-Name, Undersized Opponent", eh? Well.... at least Hatton's going one better. He's making sure he's picked a shot, big-named, undersized opponent. Oscar miscalculated with Pacquiao, and look where it brought him.
because it muddies the waters for fanboys and casual fans - but hey-ho. Both shot, one with a big size advantage...only last week people were bitching about the size advantage Chavez had..same day weigh-ins...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Hatton wasn't a big light welter so I'm not worried by the weight. Katsidis would be wise to fight at whatever weight he is comfortable at.
So here comes the bellyaching already. One minutes Hattons shot the next minute he is being a bully by offering another shot fighter a HUGE pay day and opportunity. Ricky's opponent has not even been confirmed yet. You and Allthugz are both douche bag troll boys with tiny weeners and pea sized brains etc etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
God you are both SO PREDICTABLE
:-X
;D
so you're not disputing that both are shot and that katsidis is undersized?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzSo here comes the bellyaching already. One minutes Hattons shot the next minute he is being a bully by offering another shot fighter a HUGE pay day and opportunity. Ricky's opponent has not even been confirmed yet. You and Allthugz are both douche bag troll boys with tiny weeners and pea sized brains etc etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
God you are both SO PREDICTABLE
:-X
;D