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Is this amirs final swan song? Or is he talented enough and young enough to bounce back again?
Amir has speed and great boxing skill. If he would have gave prescott a rematch and beat him would that have gave amir a great confidence boost in a way that might have eliminated any talk of the glass jaw?
Would he have been a different fighter?
Can mr.hunter change amir and will he listen?
Swansong - He can't lose 3 on the bounce. He'll be nothing more than a gate-keeper.
If he loses this one, I predict he's going to down the route of Audley Harrison talking about how we should jump on the "A-Train" now (when he's 41) because Amir is going to be the World champ again!
It's a must win fight for Amir. He won't do any better unless he takes some responsibility though.
Who is Khan next opponent?
rumor is he's going with Ward's trainer, so nothing new is gonna happen, his excuse with Roach was that he was on the backburner to Pacquiao, well what's gonna be different now? Ward is the hotter fighter right now so he's not gonna be put behind Khan, Amir's glass chin isn't a state of mind it's just well his inability to take a good punch, he strikes me as a lazy ass and as someone who has an excuse for everything, he'll have some success then crash horribly and his new trainer will get the blame again
Rumor has it that Amir Khan has offered a fight to Diego Chavez of Argentina. Diego Gabriel Chaves - Boxer
Career suicide?
22-0 with 18 ko's....at 147? Stupid move by a stupid man, if true. Can't knock his bottle tho
Everyone will agree he has to stay away from punchers but you have to admire his cajones. He needs to stop looking for the magic bullet by running from trainer to trainer and start working on his defense. I'd like to see him do well but he has to face the reality of his poor defense that makes him vulnerable to a puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Khan is young enough to make a go of his boxing career and after his last loss he achieved more than we all expected. I think Khan will come back better and stronger again and this trainer has only Ward as a high profile fighter so should accommodate Khan better and improve his defence.
I think Khan should stay at light welter but HBO want him to fight a big name.
I don't think he's lazy. His biggest problem seems to be, as you said at the end, his ridiculous inability to take responsibility for his mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
He get's KO'd by Prescott and it was his poor Cuban trainers fault..
He loses to Peterson and it was the entire state of Washington's fault. Oh don't forget he only won because of PED's too.
He loses to Garcia and now it's Freddie's fault.
It's that attitude which means he will struggle to improve
If he loses then he does need to reflect and make changes where he can improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzI don't think he's lazy. His biggest problem seems to be, as you said at the end, his ridiculous inability to take responsibility for his mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
He get's KO'd by Prescott and it was his poor Cuban trainers fault..
He loses to Peterson and it was the entire state of Washington's fault. Oh don't forget he only won because of PED's too.
He loses to Garcia and now it's Freddie's fault.
It's that attitude which means he will struggle to improve
He dumped the Cuban trainer and got Roach and looked good. However his defense has been suspect until it was found out against Garcia, so he moves again and tries ti improve that. I see no problem there. Oscar dumped many trainers to improve himself.
Personally, I think Prescott was going to knock him out regardless of whether Roach was his trainer or somebody else. He was a young, cocky undefeated fighter who thought he couldn't lose. It was all too easy to blame the Cuban trainer (I'm sorry I don't know his name, I don't mean to be disrespectful).Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf he loses then he does need to reflect and make changes where he can improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzI don't think he's lazy. His biggest problem seems to be, as you said at the end, his ridiculous inability to take responsibility for his mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
He get's KO'd by Prescott and it was his poor Cuban trainers fault..
He loses to Peterson and it was the entire state of Washington's fault. Oh don't forget he only won because of PED's too.
He loses to Garcia and now it's Freddie's fault.
It's that attitude which means he will struggle to improve
He dumped the Cuban trainer and got Roach and looked good. However his defense has been suspect until it was found out against Garcia, so he moves again and tries ti improve that. I see no problem there. Oscar dumped many trainers to improve himself.
Thing I'm still unsure about is whether Amir WANTS to improve. From the way he talks, I think he believes he has everything he needs but just needs the attention of a full time trainer. I could be wrong - we'll see how it pans out.
The way he fought Garcia has to be one of the dumbest approaches by a supposed top tier I've seen recent. If he comes out Hells bells again no matter the opponent, physically and mentally he runs the risk of taking yet another dirt nap. He has boxing ability but is too eager to try to be something he's not and sadly for him has the punch resistance of dry white toast.
Glad he kicked Roach to the curb. One way trainer. Khan never even learned to properly hold. I think he has the talent and punch to carry on so no swan song regardless imo. He lacks a real plan B and I have said that since he burst onto the scene. He does not seem able to deal with adversity and believes his talent alone wins the day. I think his issues are upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Roach being overated is another topic altogether and one that I totally agree with you on. I have been saying that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitGlad he kicked Roach to the curb. One way trainer. Khan never even learned to properly hold. I think he has the talent and punch to carry on so no swan song regardless imo. He lacks a real plan B and I have said that since he burst onto the scene. He does not seem able to deal with adversity and believes his talent alone wins the day. I think his issues are upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Spicoli nailed it - Khan is always trying to be something he's not. He has the talent and attributes to fight like a top class boxer but wants to fight like Antonio Margarito without the chin. Never going to end well. The most disciplined I've seen him look was against Kotelnik when he won the world title.
Khan needs to fight in a disciplined manner where he uses his speed but not get reckless. He certainly makes fights exciting putting down Maidana with a body shot and cutting up Garcia for over 3 rounds, but had he taken his time he would have made easy work of these opponents. I think that is what he will do for this comeback.
Hes put himself in a situation that he is fighting for career preservation by not doing so in the first place really, though I'm not convinced his chin-psyche would have held 100% vs Garcia regardless. That compounded with the blue print being out on his beard, not utilizing earlier time to hone up that boxing and patience, and that he'll surely jump in with a better name to stay relevant sooner rather than later...they are going to jump him and he'll be forced to stand...I think he's in for a tough tough uphill climb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
And he did VERY well against Maliggnaggi too. He has it, just needs to work on his defense and inside fight. Working with Hunter and Ward will improve that I think, or it certainly can't do any harm. Like someone already said, just learning to hold a little on the inside would help him. He's still one of the best at 140 chin or no chin and he's still exciting to watch, like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzRoach being overated is another topic altogether and one that I totally agree with you on. I have been saying that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitGlad he kicked Roach to the curb. One way trainer. Khan never even learned to properly hold. I think he has the talent and punch to carry on so no swan song regardless imo. He lacks a real plan B and I have said that since he burst onto the scene. He does not seem able to deal with adversity and believes his talent alone wins the day. I think his issues are upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Spicoli nailed it - Khan is always trying to be something he's not. He has the talent and attributes to fight like a top class boxer but wants to fight like Antonio Margarito without the chin. Never going to end well. The most disciplined I've seen him look was against Kotelnik when he won the world title.
Khan is exciting and i love to see them combos..shame hes a fragile little thing.
Yup, would be silly to disagree with any of those things. Khan has all the tools. His ego just won't let him hide his limitations like other fighters have learned to do. Ward hits and smothers, Margarito never stopped throwing punches, Mike Tyson would try and end fights asap, Calzaghe would turn on the furious slap windmill for 12 rounds (I'm sorryyyyy, you know I can't help it) - Khan needs to include holding on the inside in his game and he's pretty much complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianAnd he did VERY well against Maliggnaggi too. He has it, just needs to work on his defense and inside fight. Working with Hunter and Ward will improve that I think, or it certainly can't do any harm. Like someone already said, just learning to hold a little on the inside would help him. He's still one of the best at 140 chin or no chin and he's still exciting to watch, like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzRoach being overated is another topic altogether and one that I totally agree with you on. I have been saying that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitGlad he kicked Roach to the curb. One way trainer. Khan never even learned to properly hold. I think he has the talent and punch to carry on so no swan song regardless imo. He lacks a real plan B and I have said that since he burst onto the scene. He does not seem able to deal with adversity and believes his talent alone wins the day. I think his issues are upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Spicoli nailed it - Khan is always trying to be something he's not. He has the talent and attributes to fight like a top class boxer but wants to fight like Antonio Margarito without the chin. Never going to end well. The most disciplined I've seen him look was against Kotelnik when he won the world title.
His biggest battle will be with his Ego.
Until then I hope he get KO'd
Perhaps you need an intervention of some kind. Look you are a solid poster and I have no wish to do a key board lets call each other names thing but this Calslappy shit is one of the most overused terms in modern times.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzYup, would be silly to disagree with any of those things. Khan has all the tools. His ego just won't let him hide his limitations like other fighters have learned to do. Ward hits and smothers, Margarito never stopped throwing punches, Mike Tyson would try and end fights asap, Calzaghe would turn on the furious slap windmill for 12 rounds (I'm sorryyyyy, you know I can't help it) - Khan needs to include holding on the inside in his game and he's pretty much complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianAnd he did VERY well against Maliggnaggi too. He has it, just needs to work on his defense and inside fight. Working with Hunter and Ward will improve that I think, or it certainly can't do any harm. Like someone already said, just learning to hold a little on the inside would help him. He's still one of the best at 140 chin or no chin and he's still exciting to watch, like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzRoach being overated is another topic altogether and one that I totally agree with you on. I have been saying that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitGlad he kicked Roach to the curb. One way trainer. Khan never even learned to properly hold. I think he has the talent and punch to carry on so no swan song regardless imo. He lacks a real plan B and I have said that since he burst onto the scene. He does not seem able to deal with adversity and believes his talent alone wins the day. I think his issues are upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Spicoli nailed it - Khan is always trying to be something he's not. He has the talent and attributes to fight like a top class boxer but wants to fight like Antonio Margarito without the chin. Never going to end well. The most disciplined I've seen him look was against Kotelnik when he won the world title.
Cal had one of the best ko ratios in modern times until he busted his hands around the time of Shieka.
He still went undefeated
He still pimp slapped the heir to the throne from this continent.
He still dominated a prime Kessler.
Back to the title Khan has the attention span of a 12 year old.
Khan is on borrowed time with respect to US box office. I can't see Americans paying ppv money any longer for a Khan headlined bill.
With the Hobson announcement surely the writing is on the wall, swansong for Khan and Ricky H. with 30,000 tribal Mancs watching live at £100 a pop. Not much to do with world title boxing though, basically because neither of them are good enough.
Khan has the same problem as Hatton. Not enough ring-smarts and the inability to stick to a plan. They both have a lot of raw talent and can look exceptionally good if they are allowed (by both their opponent and the referee) to fight in their own style. They can both stick to a gameplan up to a point, but when things start going wrong, the plan goes out the window and they revert to instinct, and that's why they're not truly world class fighters. Hatton showed it vs Mayweather, Pacquiao and even Lazcano. Khan showed it against Maidana, Peterson and Garcia. Say what you want about Calzaghe but his ability to change his game when he needed to was a fundamental reason why he retired an undefeated champion.
Was just going to say same thing. Khan is one KO away from his career ending - or becoming an Audley as some have put it, which is the same thing...... Either way he isn't going to reach the heights he thought he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom
Khan's opponents will be extremely confident of winning now too as long as they have just average pop in their fists. Even I reckon I could do him !
As long as they both win their fights in November / December , Hatton and Khan should just get the British showdown on and make one hell of a massive pay day. Though both their stars have fallen this would be huge over here and sell a stadium out easy - probably the biggest domestic fight ever (up there anyway).
And who here wouldn't want to see it