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Froch wants Ward again !
Froch Admits Hunger For Ward Rematch: I Can Beat Him! - Boxing News
Froch wants another shot at Ward and wants to secure the fight this time next year in Nottingham. I think If froch can get through Mack, Bute and Kessler then he should have the unification fight with Ward or if Ward has moved up Froch should move up and get another shot at Ward. Its a make sense fight for Froch if he gets through the next three tests. I would give Froch in Nottingham a good chance of winning as long as he starts quick, like he did against Bute.
Would Ward actually come to Nottingham though? I dont see him taking such a big risk in fighting Froch in his hometown IMO.
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Don't see the point in this match up, the fist fight was pretty conclusive
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Like iv said earlier, a Kessler eematch will sell big regardless of whether Froch lost Ward again before hand.
While he is still relatively fresh, go for Ward before Kessler. Another Kessler fight will take its toll.
I think he and Kessler both have the beating of Ward but in their fights both let Ward hold and slow the pace. Only in the Froch fight where Ward started to tire did Froch startcoming in to it. If he started faster and more aggressive like he did against Bute, Ward would tire much earlier and although he looks tough in his fights, Ward is actually quite fragile. Look at the Bika fight. If the ref did his job, Ward would have ended up being disqualified for the amount of holding he did. Like Akinwande against Lewis.
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freddy73
Don't see the point in this match up, the fist fight was pretty conclusive
Agreed, have no interest in this fight. Ward would win in dominant fashion.
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Makes more sense than a Bute rematch
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freddy73
Don't see the point in this match up, the fist fight was pretty conclusive
Disagree there...
Froch became stronger as the fight went on, ward slowed. In front of his home fans will make a big difference too!
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Best opponent out there for Ward.
If Froch beats Mack, Bute and Kessler he has done more than enough to earn another shot at Ward.
Considering some of the opponents certain champions defend against, to say he shouldn't get a shot because the first fight was won clearly by Ward is bollocks. Ok Froch is the more likely to get wear and tear on him in the next 12 months and Ward is younger so will b a huge favourite but as has already been mentioned Froch was starting to come on at the end of the fight shows it's possible Froch could fight different and win. Who knows what would have happened if it was a 15 round fight.
Froch v Ward 2? I'd welcome the fight in the UK or US.
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Froch starts quicker, the fights closer on the cards, but Ward still wins with a couple of round to spare.
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I'd watch. Both have made statements after the fact and are the ones standing when the dust settled. That said, Ward isn't Bute and he surely is not Mack...who Froch should steamroll but cannot let himself get distracted looking ahead. I don't see the outcome being different but they don't shy away from a good fight.
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The result would be the same, Wards as slippery as an eel and so hard to tag with multiple shots I would love Froch to do it and will be watching and hoping that Carl can, Andre is on the way up and Froch is peaking right now in twelve months who knows how Carl will be. :)
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I really can't think of a fighter like Froch around at the moment. His fights are mapped out and gave been for years now.
Pretty much who ever everyone has wanted him to fight, he's fought. Always the best.
Don't forget, during the super 6 loads of people were saying Bute would have won it if he was in it. I think Bute still has a lot to offer with some of the top fighters still.
Kessler, Bute, Ward. Even Mack isn't an easy fight for a routine fight.
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I don't blame any fighter for wanting to redeem himself, but i just wouldn't see too much point in a rematch here.
Froch has had a brilliant career, fought the best, won titles, proved himself a seriously hard b*stard, but he got found out technically by a fighter who's one of the best around pound-for-pound.
Assuming Carl gets Yusuf Mack out of the way, i'd like to see him face Kessler again if possible. There's a chance for redemption for him there, and i believe he'd win.
Given who Carl's fought, and how, we couldn't begrudge him wanting to end with a fight against the best, and the man who's beaten him most convincingly, but i don't think it'd be pretty, and i'm a believer that rematches should only be granted if there's any doubt about the result. For me, the first fight was too one-sided for this to appeal.
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Fighting in Nottingham would make a big difference to Froch,personally i
still think Ward would win, but it would be a closer fight than last time,
i wouldnt mind seeing this again.
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Agreed Froch would fight better at Nottingham and Ward may not be a good travellor at all.
Froch has to rematch with Ward after he beats Bute and Kessler, there is no where else to go other than the young guns like De Gale and Groves or move up to light heavy.
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I'd like to see this happen, but lots of luck getting Ward to fight outside of the USA.
It's going to take a truck load of money to see Ward fight in the UK, in my opinion.
I want to see this fight for two reasons, to see if Ward can do it again, and to hear Froch admit he lost without any excuses, if that's possible.
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Why not have a rematch. Turpin beat Robinson handily the first time and then got knocked out. Many great rematches in history followed a drubbing. He fought Gavilan twice. Hell Langford fought Wills about 20 times. After Lamotta waxed Robinson and he did was there any need for a rematch? I have no issues with Froch desiring a rematch at all and it speaks to his will to compete with the best. I bet he’d be willing to travel to get it unlike Ward who wants it all from the confines of his bedroom
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THE PHILOSOPHER
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Originally Posted by
freddy73
Don't see the point in this match up, the fist fight was pretty conclusive
Disagree there...
Froch became stronger as the fight went on, ward slowed.
In front of his home fans will make a big difference too!
Fans wouldn't matter. But I'm sure fighting in front of his home judges would make a big difference.
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
THE PHILOSOPHER
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Originally Posted by
freddy73
Don't see the point in this match up, the fist fight was pretty conclusive
Disagree there...
Froch became stronger as the fight went on, ward slowed.
In front of his home fans will make a big difference too!
Fans wouldn't matter. But I'm sure fighting in front of his home judges would make a big difference.
And the ref.
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I actually believe that past future and present the only man that could beat ward is froch!
Froch has the ability to win fights with no skills!
I also think ward would easily beat Leonard haggler and Duran and hearns
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Dropanuke
I actually believe that past future and present the only man that could beat ward is froch!
Froch has the ability to win fights with no skills!
I also think ward would easily beat Leonard haggler and Duran and hearns
Lets not get carried away, Ward is quality and under rated.
Could he really beat Hagler at middleweight?
Hearns at super middle?
Duran and Leonard's best weights were lightweight and welter.
Roy Jones could handle Ward at Super middle and maybe Galzaghe.
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Froch is not the best fighter that has ever lived I think that is clear , but he is old school when it comes to fighting the very best out there , he doesnt fear losing he is a REAL fighter , and I admire him for that.
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What I'm saying is ward has superior technical boxing skills for those guys! That's why he would win!
Froch has something's others don't and that's real heart and determination, the rest have heart but not like his!
He just doesn't give up no matter what!
I think ward will spend his life not wanting froch again!
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If the fought 100 times, ward would win at least 99 imo
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Getting the w means nothing in a fight like that!
If froch gets the loss deep down he will always be looked at by his haters as the real winner for the effort alone.
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Froch is not getting any younger. He has to make as much money as he can. Froch should fight Bute, Kessler, and Ward in that order. Then walk away like Calzaghe did with all his marbles and money in his pocket.
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BIG H
If the fought 100 times, ward would win at least 99 imo
And that 1 Froch win would be a shameful gift
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Yes in the eyes of his haters only.
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Dropanuke
Yes in the eyes of his haters only.
No bigger Froch fan here than me. But Im not some blind, naive groupie who thinks Froch can be competitive against Ward (much less beat him) knowing damn well it's not possible
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So your saying If froch turned it up like against pascal that ward would keep him off past round 10?
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Froch deserves that fight, not because the first was competitive, not because he has a chance to make it but because he has fought much adversities in the past and because he's never been afraid to fight the bests on their turfs and because he always comes to fight. For these reasons, yeah, he deserves it.
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Dropanuke
Yes in the eyes of his haters only.
No bigger Froch fan here than me. But Im not some blind, naive groupie who thinks Froch can be competitive against Ward (much less beat him) knowing damn well it's not possible
This.
It just wouldn't happen. It's just different levels.
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It's pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Ward has been dropped and hurt as recently as Bika... He spoils too well for Froch to likely land clean... But it can be done, whatever he lacks - froch has a fuck load of will so you can never write him off entirely.
VD which fighter did you say Froch was going to get KO'd by or only beat via a shameful, home town decision? Was it Bute or Abraham?
I only ask because that seems like something so stupid only a hater could delude themselves enough to say... But here you are claiming to be a fan. ???
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AdamGB
It's pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Ward has been dropped and hurt as recently as Bika... He spoils too well for Froch to likely land clean... But it can be done, whatever he lacks - froch has a fuck load of will so you can never write him off entirely.
VD which fighter did you say Froch was going to get KO'd by or only beat via a shameful, home town decision? Was it Bute or Abraham?
I only ask because that seems like something so stupid only a hater could delude themselves enough to say... But here you are claiming to be a fan. ???
I'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
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Can't wait! Will be a great rematch!
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Why dont we stop the if's,buts and maybe's , let the fight happen and let the fighters do the talking in the ring.
If you dislike either Froch or Ward it doesnt really matter , let see the rematch.
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There is no reason they shouldn't fight again assuming Ward is going to stay at the weight, he has nobody else to fight anyways.
Having said that, I think there is a lot more room for Ward to improve than Froch and it would only be a more decisive win this time around. Neither guy has ever rematched anyone if I'm not mistaken though so it'll be interesting to see in that sense. Being so much better technically and tactically all Ward needs to worry about is being in top shape and making some small adjustments. I don't think there's much Froch can do to change the outcome, and he isn't a lethal one punch guy or anything. Maybe he could hire Ross the amateur judge to train him and work out the game plan.
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If froch performed like against pascal then he would win it!
His work rate was crazy high
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Re: Froch wants Ward again !
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
It's pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Ward has been dropped and hurt as recently as Bika... He spoils too well for Froch to likely land clean... But it can be done, whatever he lacks - froch has a fuck load of will so you can never write him off entirely.
VD which fighter did you say Froch was going to get KO'd by or only beat via a shameful, home town decision? Was it Bute or Abraham?
I only ask because that seems like something so stupid only a hater could delude themselves enough to say... But here you are claiming to be a fan. ???
I'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.
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Re: Froch wants Ward again !
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
It's pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Ward has been dropped and hurt as recently as Bika... He spoils too well for Froch to likely land clean... But it can be done, whatever he lacks - froch has a fuck load of will so you can never write him off entirely.
VD which fighter did you say Froch was going to get KO'd by or only beat via a shameful, home town decision? Was it Bute or Abraham?
I only ask because that seems like something so stupid only a hater could delude themselves enough to say... But here you are claiming to be a fan. ???
I'm sure it was both. Still a big time fan of him.
Bika never dropped Ward. Only time Ward has been down was in his 7th pro fight. But it's alright. I'm sure it can still be held against him. I mean it was only 7 years ago. That's like yesterday
??? I never said Bika dropped ward... I said he'd been dropped before and that bika had hurt him.
It's the way it was worded. Could have been read as Bika dropping and hurting him. Rather than your intention of him being dropped before, and hurt as recently as Bika.