Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part II on Tuesday - let's score it!

The next Romney vs Obama debate is set for Tuesday, October 16th. at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time -Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)

BO figures to do somewhat better than he did in the first debate, but he will have to contend with a new debate format. The debate Tuesday night will be a town hall format, so both he and Romney will be taking questions from the moderator, but also from members of the audience. And that creates a challenge for the Obama campaign because Romney is very comfortable in a town hall format. For a long time, he was doing more town halls out on the campaign trail than rallies.

In my humble opinion, Romney has most of the momentum and energy right now and it's going to be next to impossible for Obama to slow it in this debate Tuesday night. Obama's honeymoon with voters is over now, and the majority of Americans have finally seen that Obama is unqualified to lead, and has no workable plan for America's future.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionn...bate-schedule/

Hey bro. ;D

We basically don't agree on the Presidential election and candidates, but I like your enthusiasm, and...... I like the way you format the debate threads just like the boxing threads. It's pretty much what it is anyway..... verbal boxing.

Obviously, I'm hoping Obama is better prepared for the rematch.

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Hey bro. ;D

We basically don't agree on the Presidential election and candidates, but I like your enthusiasm, and...... I like the way you format the debate threads just like the boxing threads. It's pretty much what it is anyway..... verbal boxing.

Obviously, I'm hoping Obama is better prepared for the rematch.

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@TitoFan,
Thanks bro, just like with the boxing/fight threads I give my totally unbiased opinions in the debate threads, lol. :rolleyes:
Actually I do try to "moderate" the threads a bit, give a fair assessment, and give credit where credit is due. I like hearing everyone's opinions even though I might not agree with them, making my contributions to the Forums and hopefully making Saddos a little better place for all of us.

I like Romney well enough, and I don't believe he's anywhere near as dishonest, greedy and corrupt, et al, as he's made out to be by the liberals/Dems. I just think Obama's had his shot, and I can't see him doing any better if given another 4 years to work with.

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Hey bro. ;D

We basically don't agree on the Presidential election and candidates, but I like your enthusiasm, and...... I like the way you format the debate threads just like the boxing threads. It's pretty much what it is anyway..... verbal boxing.

Obviously, I'm hoping Obama is better prepared for the rematch.

;D

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@TitoFan ,
Thanks bro, just like with the boxing/fight threads I give my totally unbiased opinions in the debate threads, lol. :rolleyes:
Actually I do try to "moderate" the threads a bit, give a fair assessment, and give credit where credit is due. I like hearing everyone's opinions even though I might not agree with them, making my contributions to the Forums and hopefully making Saddos a little better place for all of us.

I like Romney well enough, and I don't believe he's anywhere near as dishonest, greedy and corrupt, et al, as he's made out to be by the liberals/Dems. I just think Obama's had his shot, and I can't see him doing any better if given another 4 years to work with.

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@Mars_ax, now we just need someone to do an objective, but good RBR...... LOL.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Hey bro. ;D

We basically don't agree on the Presidential election and candidates, but I like your enthusiasm, and...... I like the way you format the debate threads just like the boxing threads. It's pretty much what it is anyway..... verbal boxing.

Obviously, I'm hoping Obama is better prepared for the rematch.

;D

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@TitoFan ,
Thanks bro, just like with the boxing/fight threads I give my totally unbiased opinions in the debate threads, lol. :rolleyes:
Actually I do try to "moderate" the threads a bit, give a fair assessment, and give credit where credit is due. I like hearing everyone's opinions even though I might not agree with them, making my contributions to the Forums and hopefully making Saddos a little better place for all of us.

I like Romney well enough, and I don't believe he's anywhere near as dishonest, greedy and corrupt, et al, as he's made out to be by the liberals/Dems. I just think Obama's had his shot, and I can't see him doing any better if given another 4 years to work with.

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@Mars_ax, now we just need someone to do an objective, but good RBR...... LOL.

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Yup, i'm not really all that good at doing RBR, i'm sure there's some members on the forum who are good at doing RBR, they can feel free to jump in. I'm all for anything that enhances the fight threads and makes the forum better.

Am I allowed to pipe in with a sardonic dig or two?

Obviously, I am a fan of neither of the two corporate pugs, but given the rough choices available, Obama is the lesser of two evils. You know what you ae going to get with him, whilst Romney is a loose cannon and must be kept away from the red buttons. Plus he is a Mormon and that doesn't bode well for logic and rationality.

I'm surprised by that Miles considering how the President has largely just continued Bush's policies. Romney likely will as well but you never know.

I don't call it the lessor of 2 evils, good or evil has little to do with it. It's more about who gives the U.S. the best chance of improving, I see that man being Romney. BO had his chance and blew it, mainly because he didn't have a workable plan in place. I'll breath a hell of a lot easier at night knowing that BO, Hillary, Biden, and the rest of that liberal scum is no longer fucking up my government.

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I'm surprised by that Miles considering how the President has largely just continued Bush's policies. Romney likely will as well but you never know.

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Yeah, I know what you mean and I do really dislike Obama as my posting has shown since he was made President. I just don't see Romney as a viable alternative either. His foreign policy approach is potentially very dangerous and I just don't want to see the Middle East incited to complete madness. I already think America is very wrong for putting sanctions on Iran, I would hate to see them prodded on by Israel into committing to Iraq part 2. Furthermore, I really don't want to see the military having 2 billion dollars pumped into it when investment should really be going into green energy. I also really loath the idea of expanding coal mining.

I don't like either of them, but certainly from an international standpoint it is better to stick with Obama. I yearn for a time when a viable 3rd alternative becomes available. Currently it just seems like dead end politics, I just want America to treat its majority with respect and the policies that will get them on their feet. For too long they have been forced to eat shit. That's not a good thing to be happening to people. I won't waffle on as this is about the debate, but yeah, it bugs me.

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I don't call it the lessor of 2 evils, good or evil has little to do with it. It's more about who gives the U.S. the best chance of improving, I see that man being Romney. BO had his chance and blew it, mainly because he didn't have a workable plan in place. I'll breath a hell of a lot easier at night knowing that BO, Hillary, Biden, and the rest of that liberal scum is no longer fucking up my government.

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Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again. That's mainly because there isn't really a lot the prez can do to help the economy recover from a balance sheet recession, one where Americans are paying down lots of debt. Because they're paying down debt built up the housing bubble consumer demand is weak and there's not much Obama can do to increase it, short of mortgage cramdowns/renegotiation, and every time he's tried to do that the banks and the GOP have blocked it.

Romney's plan is apparently a massive tax cut mainly for the wealthy. This was Bush's plan too and it led to really poor economic growth, worse growth than any modern prez. So why do you think Romney is going to do any better than the current guy?

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I don't call it the lessor of 2 evils, good or evil has little to do with it. It's more about who gives the U.S. the best chance of improving, I see that man being Romney. BO had his chance and blew it, mainly because he didn't have a workable plan in place. I'll breath a hell of a lot easier at night knowing that BO, Hillary, Biden, and the rest of that liberal scum is no longer fucking up my government.

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Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again. That's mainly because there isn't really a lot the prez can do to help the economy recover from a balance sheet recession, one where Americans are paying down lots of debt. Because they're paying down debt built up the housing bubble consumer demand is weak and there's not much Obama can do to increase it, short of mortgage cramdowns/renegotiation, and every time he's tried to do that the banks and the GOP have blocked it.

Romney's plan is apparently a massive tax cut mainly for the wealthy. This was Bush's plan too and it led to really poor economic growth, worse growth than any modern prez. So why do you think Romney is going to do any better than the current guy?

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A massive tax cut by Romney for the wealthy is just another load of shit that the dems/libs are spewing to demonize Romney and get votes, as is saying that medicare will be cut or that the middle class will get fucked over, by Romney's tax plan. Any "plan" that Romney/Ryan have already outlined for job growth, economic recovery, lowering the deficit and saving medicare & social security is better then what the "magic mulatto" has already tried and failed at.

There's not one fucking thing that BO and the libs stand for that I can identify with, the dems are the party of the black, white and hispanic welfare/entitlement parasites, the party of gays, lesbians/feminists and other "bleeding heart" Oprah-headed white females.

I may not always agree with Republican politics, but the men and women who support and vote for Romney and the Republicans this year are who i'll stand with. Them and their ancestors are what built America and made it great.

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I don't call it the lessor of 2 evils, good or evil has little to do with it. It's more about who gives the U.S. the best chance of improving, I see that man being Romney. BO had his chance and blew it, mainly because he didn't have a workable plan in place. I'll breath a hell of a lot easier at night knowing that BO, Hillary, Biden, and the rest of that liberal scum is no longer fucking up my government.

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Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again. That's mainly because there isn't really a lot the prez can do to help the economy recover from a balance sheet recession, one where Americans are paying down lots of debt. Because they're paying down debt built up the housing bubble consumer demand is weak and there's not much Obama can do to increase it, short of mortgage cramdowns/renegotiation, and every time he's tried to do that the banks and the GOP have blocked it.

Romney's plan is apparently a massive tax cut mainly for the wealthy. This was Bush's plan too and it led to really poor economic growth, worse growth than any modern prez. So why do you think Romney is going to do any better than the current guy?

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A massive tax cut by Romney for the wealthy is just another load of shit that the dems/libs are spewing to demonize Romney and get votes, as is saying that medicare will be cut or that the middle class will get fucked over, by Romney's tax plan. Any "plan" that Romney/Ryan have already outlined for job growth, economic recovery, lowering the deficit and saving medicare & social security is better then what the "magic mulatto" has already tried and failed at.

There's not one fucking thing that BO and the libs stand for that I can identify with, the dems are the party of the black, white and hispanic welfare/entitlement parasites, the party of gays, lesbians/feminists and other "bleeding heart" Oprah-headed white females.

I may not always agree with Republican politics, but the men and women who support and vote for Romney and the Republicans this year are who i'll stand with. Them and their ancestors are what built America and made it great.

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Yo Mars, stormfront.org called, they want their post back.

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Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

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....you don't say

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I don't call it the lessor of 2 evils, good or evil has little to do with it. It's more about who gives the U.S. the best chance of improving, I see that man being Romney. BO had his chance and blew it, mainly because he didn't have a workable plan in place. I'll breath a hell of a lot easier at night knowing that BO, Hillary, Biden, and the rest of that liberal scum is no longer fucking up my government.

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Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again. That's mainly because there isn't really a lot the prez can do to help the economy recover from a balance sheet recession, one where Americans are paying down lots of debt. Because they're paying down debt built up the housing bubble consumer demand is weak and there's not much Obama can do to increase it, short of mortgage cramdowns/renegotiation, and every time he's tried to do that the banks and the GOP have blocked it.

Romney's plan is apparently a massive tax cut mainly for the wealthy. This was Bush's plan too and it led to really poor economic growth, worse growth than any modern prez. So why do you think Romney is going to do any better than the current guy?

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A massive tax cut by Romney for the wealthy is just another load of shit that the dems/libs are spewing to demonize Romney and get votes, as is saying that medicare will be cut or that the middle class will get fucked over, by Romney's tax plan. Any "plan" that Romney/Ryan have already outlined for job growth, economic recovery, lowering the deficit and saving medicare & social security is better then what the "magic mulatto" has already tried and failed at.

There's not one fucking thing that BO and the libs stand for that I can identify with, the dems are the party of the black, white and hispanic welfare/entitlement parasites, the party of gays, lesbians/feminists and other "bleeding heart" Oprah-headed white females.

I may not always agree with Republican politics, but the men and women who support and vote for Romney and the Republicans this year are who i'll stand with. Them and their ancestors are what built America and made it great.

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Yo Mars, stormfront.org called, they want their post back.

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Geezuz Youngblood, you'd think they'd be able to articulate much better then me, i'm a novice at this shit. ;)
cheers

Why do they not have the third candidate in the libertarians, they did it over here and the Nick Clegg was so much better than Brown and Cameron that he got in power.

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Why do they not have the third candidate in the libertarians, they did it over here and the Nick Clegg was so much better than Brown and Cameron that he got in power.

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Most of the issues here are controlled and defined by the press and the pundits and Libertarians or any other 3rd Party can't get face time because the media sees things as Black or White, Off or On, Right or Left and moronic as they are don't think that there could be SOME issues where Conservatives differ from the Republican Party and some issues where Liberals differ from the Democrat (or Democratic Party...they get their panties in a wad no matter what you call them) Party.

One could assume that a 3rd Party should be able to win in a LANDSLIDE but the Dems, Repubs, and the media aren't going to just hand over power.

I for one am for a number of things that aren't even being addressed specifically at the time being: States' Rights/State control of everything not specifically listed in the Constitution or Amendments to the Constitution and ending the War on Drugs (which SHOULD help with illegal immigration AND boost the economy).

But those are very easy topics to demagogue

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BO's "plan" is to criticize Romney's plans, and cover up the fact that he doesn't have one, other then the same old shit that's already failed.

Didn't know if I should post this here or in the "oft uttered bullshit" post....here you go

Obama's 2008 Town Hall Debate Promises

"I'm voting FOR Barack Obama, because I enjoy disappointment" - Democrat Voter

Romney finally releases details of his tax plan!

For all the details on Mitt Romney's 5 trillion dollar tax plan visit ROMNEYTAXPLAN.COM

Nice one YB, you saucy little bitch! ;D So funny!

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Any "plan" that Romney/Ryan have already outlined for job growth, economic recovery, lowering the deficit and saving medicare & social security is better then what the "magic mulatto" has already tried and failed at.

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In what ways?

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How about replying to the question I asked?

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How about replying to the question I asked?

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Which one would that be Mr. "I don't watch videos" ......was there a pie chart with it? Or some sort of graph? Because if there was that would really narrow it down.

Presidential election debate: Barack Obama is taking a big gamble with voters to try to win back the momentum from Mitt Romney. - Slate Magazine

So Barry is going to tell us everything is headed in the right direction and he expects us to be ok with that???


If that doesn't show how fucking incompotent Obama is I don't know what will

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Presidential election debate: Barack Obama is taking a big gamble with voters to try to win back the momentum from Mitt Romney. - Slate Magazine

So Barry is going to tell us everything is headed in the right direction and he expects us to be ok with that???


If that doesn't show how fucking incompotent Obama is I don't know what will

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I'm looking forward to watching this debate tonight - I think the writing is on the wall for Obama, especially after Hillary took the blame for Benghazi, instead of where it should have fallen, squarely on Obama's puny shoulders. The "magic mulatto" would have to pull a rabbit out of his ass to convince the majority of voters that he's anything other then a fucking unqualified to lead, fraud.

:action: the Romney vs Obama debate Part 2 is set to begin tonight @ 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time or in about 3 hours - Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent).

This should be some high drama homies, lets drag up a brew or 2 and check it out, i've got a 24oz bottle of Guinness chllin' down on ice.
:reporter:

Who do we trust.. here we go.

BO held his own and did much better then he did in the first debate, so from that standpoint he might be seen more favorably. But as for the debate it's self I don't see a clear winner, the Dems will say BO did better, and the Repubs will say Romney did better. Chances are it won't change much, we should however know, when the new polls come out in the next few days.

Watched with volume off (think Lampley calling a fight ;D ) . Ate homemade tacos w/ guac and drank the beers. Advantage: me.

Who 'won' ???

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Watched with volume off (think Lampley calling a fight ;D ) . Ate homemade tacos w/ guac and drank the beers. Advantage: me.

Who 'won' ???

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Obama did much better then he did in the first debate when he hardly showed up, but it remains to be seen if it will change anything. I thought Romney did a much better job of outlining his plans/views, and BO doesn't seem to have anything different then what he's already tried and failed at, as Romney pointed out.
It's hard to know yet how the likely voters are going to feel about this debate, as for me, i'm a hardcore Romney supporter.

cheers - I just now finished my 24oz bottle of Guinness - burp- ;)

I missed the first half hour, but the part I did watch, I think Obama did a much better job than he did in the first debate. After the debate ended, I saw the consensus was that Obama had won the debate.

Priceless moment: Obama calling out Romney on his claim about the President not calling the Libya attack a terrorist attack... then getting backed up by the moderator to some applause. Then... basically scolding Romney for implying that he (Obama) was prancing around in Las Vegas instead of handling the aftermath of the incident. Poor Romney got his head handed to him on that one.

Obama must've borrowed Biden's "cojones" for this debate. ;D

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I missed the first half hour, but the part I did watch, I think Obama did a much better job than he did in the first debate. After the debate ended, I saw the consensus was that Obama had won the debate.

Priceless moment: Obama calling out Romney on his claim about the President not calling the Libya attack a terrorist attack... then getting backed up by the moderator to some applause. Then... basically scolding Romney for implying that he (Obama) was prancing around in Las Vegas instead of handling the aftermath of the incident. Poor Romney got his head handed to him on that one.

Obama must've borrowed Biden's "cojones" for this debate. ;D

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Yea he got owned pretty hard with that, on spot fact checked. Overall a much better performance from Obama. Most polling coming out a clear win for Obama. His first debate was so poor I doubt it was strong enough to rebound all the ground lost, but certainly a step in the right direction for the Dems. Will take 3-4 days for the polls and news cycles to see what this debate really means to the numbers.

here is the vid of it Tito:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-sp0b33fbs

Now for a preemptive assessment of how the debate looked, both sides, from the perspective of VC:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtAiZLFRntk

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Obama was far better. The man was simply asleep at the wheel in the first debate.

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I missed the first half hour, but the part I did watch, I think Obama did a much better job than he did in the first debate. After the debate ended, I saw the consensus was that Obama had won the debate.

Priceless moment: Obama calling out Romney on his claim about the President not calling the Libya attack a terrorist attack... then getting backed up by the moderator to some applause. Then... basically scolding Romney for implying that he (Obama) was prancing around in Las Vegas instead of handling the aftermath of the incident. Poor Romney got his head handed to him on that one.

Obama must've borrowed Biden's "cojones" for this debate. ;D

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Yea he got owned pretty hard with that, on spot fact checked. Overall a much better performance from Obama. Most polling coming out a clear win for Obama. His first debate was so poor I doubt it was strong enough to rebound all the ground lost, but certainly a step in the right direction for the Dems. Will take 3-4 days for the polls and news cycles to see what this debate really means to the numbers.

here is the vid of it Tito:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-sp0b33fbs

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Amazingly, Romney was still trying to make his point after getting fact checked.... but Obama didn't loosen his grip, and with the help of the moderator moved on. Romney looked foolish on that topic.

Romney hammered Obama on a number of issues. Obama came across like he was pleading with people not to fire him.

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Romney hammered Obama on a number of issues. Obama came across like he was pleading with people not to fire him.

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How incredibly naive of me, to think you'd give Obama any credit at all.

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Romney hammered Obama on a number of issues. Obama came across like he was pleading with people not to fire him.

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(insert VD smilie here)


How incredibly naive of me, to think you'd give Obama any credit at all.

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Credit for what? Romney called him out on: his promises from 2008, his inability to create jobs, his cutting of the drilling permits, his pension having investments overseas, his huge fumble on the attack in Libya, and for not having a plan for the next 4 years.

Romney time and time again stated his 5 point plan and it might not be perfect but it's a PLAN...and Obama doesn't have one.

Just because BO did better in the 2nd debate then he did in the first doesn't necessarily mean it will help his slide in the polls, particularly with women. I'd be surprised if this stops Romney's momentum in fact it may just keep it going.

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And please just give me 4 more years, so I can finish ruining what's left of this country. Why anyone would want 4 more years of this fucking clown is a mystery. If BO believes he's got America on the right track, i've got news for him, he's delusional.