Printable View
Why do you guys keep the loop going?
The arguments are the same in every "political" thread, noone has been convinced of anything or stated they were wrong at any point in the history of this forums political stuff.
I'm really wondering why you keep doing it, is it so you can high five those that agree with you?
Is it too vent about the other side?
Is it to prove some kind of superiority?
Is it to inform?
Is it to inspire?
Is it to warn?
Just curious the motivations behind it.
I dont know. I stand off to the side and occasionally throw a spear into the spokes of either side as they come back around and are ignored completely as they hop back on the merry go round. :)
You could add two more options:
Attempting to gain votes?
Justifying your vote and tax dollar being pissed or even blown away, (as in bomb).
Why would you pose a question to which you have already decided the answers? You can dress it up how you like but you dont have to remove too many layers in order to reveal the condescension. What do you mean by political? Where do you draw the line between current affairs and politics? All of your hypothesis are valid reasons for posting in such threads, but dont forget we are all fight fans and having a bit of a tear up is surely entertaining for at least some here.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I regard myself as reasonably informed and have opinions on things. I don't anticipate changing any minds, but do like to put my point of view out there. Others can agree or disagree as they see fit. You can read and listen to the views of others, but you have to come to your own conclusions.
The only thing I dislike is the repetition and I am trying to ease myself away from that. 'Say what you want and then get out' is my new motto.
Why does anybody do anything?
Because people constantly attack my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them
"Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. Paranoid individuals are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other evidence.[1]"Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
*American Psychiatric Association (2012). Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR). Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.
^ American Psychiatric Association (2012). DSM-V Development. Home | APA DSM-5
FrictionQuote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
Yeah the thing is it's not paranoia when it actually happens....thanks for the help thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust"Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. Paranoid individuals are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other evidence.[1]"Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
*American Psychiatric Association (2012). Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR). Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.
^ American Psychiatric Association (2012). DSM-V Development. Home | APA DSM-5
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreFrictionQuote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
lol if that poor cat in my sig had a little more friction he might have made the jump. :-\
I enjoy hearing varying viewpoints and opinions even if it is just to scoff at how absurd they are.
Mmmmmmmmm. ......friction...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreFrictionQuote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
Pulp Friction is a vewy good fwilm...."this is a fwocking wobbery"
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzWhy would you pose a question to which you have already decided the answers? You can dress it up how you like but you dont have to remove too many layers in order to reveal the condescension. What do you mean by political? Where do you draw the line between current affairs and politics? All of your hypothesis are valid reasons for posting in such threads, but dont forget we are all fight fans and having a bit of a tear up is surely entertaining for at least some here.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And here I thought you were just an asshole toward me.
Turns out you're an EOA (Equal Opportunity Asshole).
How enlightening.
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Well, not everybody. For example... Beanie's always kissing your ass.
So you agree that people are "constantly attacking my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them".....well that's big of you to admit although the shallow & bitter nature at the end of your comment have me wondering. When we debate would you rather people take sides of their own free will or join you in opposing me? It seems you are rather hung up on that, I hope you reason out of it eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I don't accuse miles or Kirkland of kissing your ass or vice versa and as Beanz has mentioned in the other thread he posted in there before I even got to that thread so perhaps....PERHAPS he made up his own mind before I even got there
Sad, lonely men, with way too much time on their hands.
:ghost:
Make your mind up. I am not breaking @killersheeps balls, I am meeting him with equal frankness. Now I suppose I am brown nosing by crediting him with more intelligence, dignity and good manners than yourself. If you insist on trailing your own leaky arse through every thread, may I humbly suggest a nappy (what you chaps would call a diaper) to prevent further embarrassing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzWhy would you pose a question to which you have already decided the answers? You can dress it up how you like but you dont have to remove too many layers in order to reveal the condescension. What do you mean by political? Where do you draw the line between current affairs and politics? All of your hypothesis are valid reasons for posting in such threads, but dont forget we are all fight fans and having a bit of a tear up is surely entertaining for at least some here.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And here I thought you were just an asshole toward me.
Turns out you're an EOA (Equal Opportunity Asshole).
How enlightening.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzMake your mind up. I am not breaking @killersheep s balls, I am meeting him with equal frankness. Now I suppose I am brown nosing by crediting him with more intelligence, dignity and good manners than yourself. If you insist on trailing your own leaky arse through every thread, may I humbly suggest a nappy (what you chaps would call a diaper) to prevent further embarrassing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzWhy would you pose a question to which you have already decided the answers? You can dress it up how you like but you dont have to remove too many layers in order to reveal the condescension. What do you mean by political? Where do you draw the line between current affairs and politics? All of your hypothesis are valid reasons for posting in such threads, but dont forget we are all fight fans and having a bit of a tear up is surely entertaining for at least some here.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And here I thought you were just an asshole toward me.
Turns out you're an EOA (Equal Opportunity Asshole).
How enlightening.
Haha... call it what you want, gramps. But I had you pegged wrong... I thought your only talents were flowery, bullshit-filled prose and kissing ass. Now I realize you can add being an obnoxious asshole to the list. I can help you with your resume if you'd like.
:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you agree that people are "constantly attacking my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them".....well that's big of you to admit although the shallow & bitter nature at the end of your comment have me wondering. When we debate would you rather people take sides of their own free will or join you in opposing me? It seems you are rather hung up on that, I hope you reason out of it eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I don't accuse miles or Kirkland of kissing your ass or vice versa and as Beanz has mentioned in the other thread he posted in there before I even got to that thread so perhaps....PERHAPS he made up his own mind before I even got there
Kirkland and I oppose your views, but from different angles. Kirkland routinely ignores my posts as he carries on with his own agendas. I guess I do the same with him. Miles also opposes most of your views, but from a much more radical angle than I do. You may have noticed how I oppose some of Miles' very extreme views. We disagree, but in a civil manner. You and I do too, except lately that you seem to have developed a short fuse. It's probably the ass-kissing you get from gramps.
I don't even think I am particularly extreme. I am just more willing to think outside of the status quo and say the things that you are not supposed to say. Even my views on the paralympics are not viewed as particularly radical in the real world. It was one of my routines in the pub last summer and nobody got offended in the slightest and accepted that there was a lot of logic in what I was saying. I think in saying things on a forum, all those nuances that you see in real life are lost. The eye contact, the gestures, the sound of the voice. It is all lost and so what comes out in text form seems far more challenging, demanding and unorthodox. I don't see any of it in actuality being all that extreme.
I don't know what is going on between Tito and Beanz. It's odd seeing the vitriol spread page after page. I thought I was supposed to be the extreme one.
I just deal with the wrongness. I'm in the business of being right and when I come here and read stuff that's so severely wrong I get extremely offended by it and have to explain why the person is wrong on the internet. If something is right, or even close to right, or even not egregiously wronjg I leave it alone. There's isn't enough time to deal with every tiny nitpick. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you agree that people are "constantly attacking my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them".....well that's big of you to admit although the shallow & bitter nature at the end of your comment have me wondering. When we debate would you rather people take sides of their own free will or join you in opposing me? It seems you are rather hung up on that, I hope you reason out of it eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I don't accuse miles or Kirkland of kissing your ass or vice versa and as Beanz has mentioned in the other thread he posted in there before I even got to that thread so perhaps....PERHAPS he made up his own mind before I even got there
Kirkland and I oppose your views, but from different angles. Kirkland routinely ignores my posts as he carries on with his own agendas. I guess I do the same with him. Miles also opposes most of your views, but from a much more radical angle than I do. You may have noticed how I oppose some of Miles' very extreme views. We disagree, but in a civil manner. You and I do too, except lately that you seem to have developed a short fuse. It's probably the ass-kissing you get from gramps.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI just deal with the wrongness. I'm in the business of being right and when I come here and read stuff that's so severely wrong I get extremely offended by it and have to explain why the person is wrong on the internet. If something is right, or even close to right, or even not egregiously wronjg I leave it alone. There's isn't enough time to deal with every tiny nitpick. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you agree that people are "constantly attacking my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them".....well that's big of you to admit although the shallow & bitter nature at the end of your comment have me wondering. When we debate would you rather people take sides of their own free will or join you in opposing me? It seems you are rather hung up on that, I hope you reason out of it eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I don't accuse miles or Kirkland of kissing your ass or vice versa and as Beanz has mentioned in the other thread he posted in there before I even got to that thread so perhaps....PERHAPS he made up his own mind before I even got there
Kirkland and I oppose your views, but from different angles. Kirkland routinely ignores my posts as he carries on with his own agendas. I guess I do the same with him. Miles also opposes most of your views, but from a much more radical angle than I do. You may have noticed how I oppose some of Miles' very extreme views. We disagree, but in a civil manner. You and I do too, except lately that you seem to have developed a short fuse. It's probably the ass-kissing you get from gramps.
What is " the business of being right" ? Statistician? It would explain your fondness for graphs and diagrams.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI just deal with the wrongness. I'm in the business of being right and when I come here and read stuff that's so severely wrong I get extremely offended by it and have to explain why the person is wrong on the internet. If something is right, or even close to right, or even not egregiously wronjg I leave it alone. There's isn't enough time to deal with every tiny nitpick. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you agree that people are "constantly attacking my views....almost like I'm not allowed to have them".....well that's big of you to admit although the shallow & bitter nature at the end of your comment have me wondering. When we debate would you rather people take sides of their own free will or join you in opposing me? It seems you are rather hung up on that, I hope you reason out of it eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I don't accuse miles or Kirkland of kissing your ass or vice versa and as Beanz has mentioned in the other thread he posted in there before I even got to that thread so perhaps....PERHAPS he made up his own mind before I even got there
Kirkland and I oppose your views, but from different angles. Kirkland routinely ignores my posts as he carries on with his own agendas. I guess I do the same with him. Miles also opposes most of your views, but from a much more radical angle than I do. You may have noticed how I oppose some of Miles' very extreme views. We disagree, but in a civil manner. You and I do too, except lately that you seem to have developed a short fuse. It's probably the ass-kissing you get from gramps.
What is " the business of being right" ? Statistician? It would explain your fondness for graphs and diagrams.
Private equity. I look after peoples' money for them.
I only join in on occasion. To assert my alpha male dominance, maybe pee on a few legs. Make a general mockery of people's beliefs. Post a few gifs. Then go back to the more important things in life. Like Pokemon card trading.
I exist therefore I am, and in essence it describes me. I am who I am and as I carry on existing, I've got to do what I do. As long as the moral truisms are in place then there should really be no objections. Not always, but mostly I stick with that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
"Political" threads are OK, until like you say they begin getting repetitious (loop), or they get uncivil and the childish insults start. For the most part the threads are harmless, and give our resident Saddo intellectuals an opportunity to buff up on their typing/grammar skills. I say let them have their fun ;)
When the topic is related to history, like for example the holocaust, et al, it always makes me realize that historical events are subjective to whomever is reporting them. We'll never get a totally accurate/objective picture of the social and political events that happened throughout our human history.
Funny thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Like flies to shit, one mention of politics and opinions and there are tantrums and arguments all over as everyone shouts their correct opinion.
IMO, vast majority of the people had been brainwashed by this or that political personalities or parties and as a result, they just repeat the same lines over and over again and again. I've noticed hardly anyone nowadays goes for what is right, which should be the sole basis for their judgement. The biggest obstacle here is that the ideologues will always try to get your heart with all their guiles and wiles, more innocently known as propaganda, and once they got your heart for any cause, you're a goner, a puppet and it'll be near impossible to get it out of your heart again. So my dear fellas, watch your hearts 'cause once it's taken, it'll be nigh impossible to sake it off. Just don't give your heart to any personality or ideology, but instead use your head and go for what you think is right, and you'll be fine...