That's Mike Tyson!!!
He was exciting
He was explosive
He rescued Heavyweight boxing
Please, please boxing Gods can you please give us a gift to make Heavyweight boxing Great again....please??
job biscuit (watching Tyson highlights)!!!
eh eh!!!
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That's Mike Tyson!!!
He was exciting
He was explosive
He rescued Heavyweight boxing
Please, please boxing Gods can you please give us a gift to make Heavyweight boxing Great again....please??
job biscuit (watching Tyson highlights)!!!
eh eh!!!
Just watched Tyson's 3rd fight and Tyson should have been dq for landing a right hook when his opponent was on the canvas
job biscuit (but never mind)!!!
eh eh!!!
Amen.
Yeah Tyson was great and I miss him too but there'll never be someone like that because every time a great fighter comes along you'll get nostalgic fans telling you that he isn't as good as Mike Tyson. I'm not a Wladimir Klitschko fan but I'm learning to shut up moaning about his boring style and just get on with it. Fact is, the dude is very good at negating what his opponent does and is a very, very good fighter. If you hate the guy, get behind someone who you think can put an end to his era. Boxing isn't as dead as people think, they're just not looking hard enough for the talent.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
wlad is brilliant but boring
he would probably beat tyson peak for peak
tyson was anything but boring
Positive words^^Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Its true. I dont like Wlad style but he seems like a nice guy and he is the best of this era. (Not inc vitali)
Haye should be asking for a rematch with Wlad not aiming for vitali.
Tyson would beat Wlad's ass, you sound like Philosopher you wally.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
wlad is brilliant but boring
he would probably beat tyson peak for peak
tyson was anything but boring
For a short time Tyson was the most exciting fighter in the world.
Now we have Wlad.:rolleyes:
I'm going to be a very old man till that shining star is put back in the heavyweight division again...hope that day comes back to shhhhiiinnneeee!!!
job biscuit (who can rescue us from this)!!!
eh eh!!!
He was exciting yeah but as far as missing an era goes, Hell I'd love to see Gene Tunney, Braddock, Baer, Luis, etc..etc all those guys go at it in high def or better yet. LIVE
Alas...
P.S I do not believe tyson would ever beat a solid tall boxer with technique and pop ever. He had never done so and to say if he would come in the fight dedicated with the right people and all that jazz is like saying if Wlad had Vitali's chin or if Marquez had the punching power of Mosley. A fighter's dedication and his smarts to know who to have with him is just an equal of a trait as is hand speed or stamina.
I'm talking excitement...I'm talking major event...i'm talking beat down...I'm talking controversial....in your face....I'm talking intimidation
job biscuit (it's ALL GONE)!!!
eh eh!!!
In that sense I agree with you. It really was an event to see him fight.
The only 2 heavyweights who really brought to the front with excitement were Tyson & Ali....these 2 griped the world like no other....win or lose these 2 would be an event no other heavyweight in the modern era could ever do...these 2 greats had the X Factor
job biscuit (Tyson v Ali, now that would of been an event)!!!
eh eh!!!
Very true otley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otley
But if you say "job biscuit" again i will grab your neck through this iphone!
Only joking.
Tyson was beyond boxing
That name "Tyson" is synonymous with boxing ... and he's still the most influential boxer in the history of the sport, right with Ali
Look at the number of boxers that have a nickname based on the name "Tyson"
Let's forget for a minute this Tyson vs Wlad nonsense... although I've gone on record saying that prime Tyson would KTFO prime Wlad in short rounds.
Tyson put BUTTS IN SEATS. Worldwide! Is Wlad popular? Yeah. But what choice do we have? We have nothing else. Wlad is an anomaly compared to the rest of the HW riff-raff. He keeps himself in shape, thereby separating himself from a good portion of the division right there. He's white... and before any racist accusations come flying... it must be admitted that many boxing fans are tickled pink about having a dominant white man in the HW division. Wlad is also very intelligent and well-educated. Again... an anomaly.
But his popularity is nowhere near Tyson's at his peak. Tyson was revered the world over. In Japan, where alas he lost for the first time to Douglas, Tyson was nearly a demigod. It only lasted a relatively short time, but the HW division during Tyson's time was as popular or more than any other division. Even casual fans flocked to see Tyson fights, if only out of morbid curiousity. They wanted to see the inevitable KTFO.
Wlad is boring with a capital "B". Yes, he's got the career numbers... yes, he'll eventually be in the boxing HOF... yes, he's dominated the (shitty) division like few others... blah, blah, blah. But Wlad has always fought and will always fight "safety first." Jabbing from afar, without venturing in lest he get caught on his glass chin. I guess the vivid memory of the Sanders and Brewster knockouts are very much alive in his brain. In contrast, did Lennox retreat into a shell after getting knocked out by McCall and Rahman? Hell no. He continued to fight aggresively, at least most of the time.
When Wlad is gone, people will remember him as a great HW, but they'll likely welcome the return of exciting HW boxing. I know I will.
Superb.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
on a fucking side note----
WHAT THE FUCK IS "JOB MOTHERFUCKING BISCUIT"????!!!! :biker:
Waiting to hear answer......
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...DcRe4joWh_Lqs2
Numerous people have asked this question and I don't think it has ever been answered. I assume it is either a hob nob, jammy dodger or a custard cream. All of these biscuits have done a pretty good job over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Tyson was the greatest example of superior skill and gracefulness combined with brute savagery I've ever seen in any sport.
Prime Tyson is 1 of a kind, they'll never be anyone who measures up IMO.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
I agree with you on Tyson's grip on the mainstream and he truly was transcendent of the sport. However in regards to Lennox being aggressive. I vividly remember many comments made about his style being cerebral rather than aggressive. He was not very well liked at all by americans. If you doubt me, just simply google his name and with a date stamp of the last decade. You'll not see much enthusiasm about him. Which is fine considering there were many news paper articles even saying that Ali was boring with his jab jab jab and circling and holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Suffice to say that most technical champs are not liked by the public. Be it Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, Charlie Burley, Sweet Pea, Bernard Hopkins, well you see where I'm going with this? Because of their technique they ensure that there's no high drama in their fights. They make sure there's not too many exchanges in which they receive blows. That of course takes away part of the thrill of a close fight between two men. As such it is deemed boring, defense, or worse: Passive
Of Course I am going off topic, as to the original comment. Yes Tyson made boxing relevant again in his time and though Mayweather and Pacquiao try, they don't quite have the same effect.
Perhaps because the top earners dont fight as much..
I think its a nigerian thing..especially the eh eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by OtleyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
cocksucker doesnt wanna answer the biscuit question. Just kidding mate its actiually funny as shit and could just as well be a fucking scone or pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by OtleyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by DavilaJonesI agree with you on Tyson's grip on the mainstream and he truly was transcendent of the sport. However in regards to Lennox being aggressive. I vividly remember many comments made about his style being cerebral rather than aggressive. He was not very well liked at all by americans. If you doubt me, just simply google his name and with a date stamp of the last decade. You'll not see much enthusiasm about him. Which is fine considering there were many news paper articles even saying that Ali was boring with his jab jab jab and circling and holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Suffice to say that most technical champs are not liked by the public. Be it Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, Charlie Burley, Sweet Pea, Bernard Hopkins, well you see where I'm going with this? Because of their technique they ensure that there's no high drama in their fights. They make sure there's not too many exchanges in which they receive blows. That of course takes away part of the thrill of a close fight between two men. As such it is deemed boring, defense, or worse: Passive
Of Course I am going off topic, as to the original comment. Yes Tyson made boxing relevant again in his time and though Mayweather and Pacquiao try, they don't quite have the same effect.
I know what you mean about Lennox's image among Americans in particular. And I remember being disappointed with his effort in some key fights, like the Tua fight, for instance. But when I compare Lennox to Wlad, I still prefer Lennox's overall style. Lennox had his lapses, like when he got KO'ed by McCall and by Rahman. But each time, he reversed those losses in aggresive style. (Well... McCall didn't really give him a chance, as he broke down crying in as bizarre an ending as you'll ever see). But Rahman got paid back in full for the first fight. Lennox never fought like his chin was made of glass, and like he was deathly afraid of someone touching it. The closest I remember was the Tua fight, where I think maybe Tua's reputation with his anesthetizing left hook made Lewis overly cautious. But Wlad fights just about everybody that way. Not a way to win over your typical boxing fan.
If anyone wants to question Lewis's chin I suggest you watch him against Ray Mercer
job biscuit (spooners)!!!
eh eh!!!
That was a hell of a fight .... I honestly thought that it should've been a draw it was so close ... but I don't have a problem with Lewis winning by SDQuote:
Originally Posted by Otley
Mercer seemed to hurt Lewis more times than Lewis had Mercer in trouble ...
Lewis has an average chin IMO ... its not complete and pure glass like Wlad's and its not iron like Chuvalo's
That Mercer, despite being out of shape and past his best, would've knocked the hinges off Wlad's jaw
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Originally Posted by TysonBomb
Well hop in the DeLorean and let's make it happen! :rolleyes:
El kabong, 37000 posts is that the highest on here?
Well done anyway.
Wlads still crap.
I'd rather have Vitali as the major champ than Wlad
At least Vitali is a natural fighter and gave a hell of a fight against Lennox Lewis ... Wladimir is just a robot programmed by Emmanuel Steward to throw a total of 3 punches and clinch like a madman any time someone moves within striking range of his chin.
He literally fights scared. I think even Pac could KO the guy if he landed cleanly on his jaw. And the past few years have been really crappy ... at least back in 2004 until 2008 there was a chance that he'd be taken out of his comfort zone and be forced to take some risks ... even have his jaw smashed again in an entertaining fashion :D
He's gotten even more boring since working with Steward and super boring ever since he's been left with these bums or has beens who can't even reach his chin.
Fine Tyson fans have it your way....though it's odd that someone who was "unbeatable" got the everliving shit hammered out of him by Buster Douglas and lost TWICE to a former cruiserweight, one time in the most chicken shit way possible.
We all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
It sounds like something serial paedophile Jimmy Saville would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Buster had Tyson's number that nite....inspired by his mums death and Tyson didn't prepare he was in party mode and lost it...that day was a great day for Buster and he took it and became a multi millionaire over nite...the Under dog did well
job biscuit (great day but bad also)!!!
eh eh!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonBombWe all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
The Tyson-Douglas match was a fight! Two guys hitting each other... doing the boxing and the punching... trying to win the fight... throwing caution to the wind at times... riveting people to their TV sets or the live action... each guy dropping the other... EXCITING SHIT!
(sigh)... I miss those days.
:(
They say you have to actually fight Tyson to win and not show fear, Wlad would do the complete opposite and cower away via back peddling or grab on for dear life.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by TysonBombWe all know that the Buster Douglas fight was the biggest upset in boxing history and we all know he could never duplicate that feat from that night in Tokyo. And Tyson STILL put him down with an uppercut in the 8th, almost unraveling all of Douglas' work. Douglas caught lightning in a bottle that night ... he was motivated and focused like never before and trained like it was the fight of his life. Mike foolishly thought he took an easy fight in Douglas and was in vacation mode in Japan. He went on a crash diet of nothing but soup and was visibly lethargic from the start of the fight. Tyson's corner was the only thing more unprepared than him that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not to mention the personal problems he had outside of the ring during that time.
The Tyson-Douglas match was a fight! Two guys hitting each other... doing the boxing and the punching... trying to win the fight... throwing caution to the wind at times... riveting people to their TV sets or the live action... each guy dropping the other... EXCITING SHIT!
(sigh)... I miss those days.
:(
Just look at the injuries he caused to Razor Ruddock and Andrew Golota. Ruddock had his jaw wired shut due to a fracture and his ribs were broken. Andrew Golota had a broken cheek bone, a herniated disc, and a concussion ... there was risk of paralysis due to the extent of his injuries.
Buster Douglas fought the best fight of his life and that was it for him ... he didn't want the rematch because he knew that a focused Tyson would be able to beat him ... it would take away from the mystique and awe of that night where he defeated Iron Mike Tyson.
The Tyson-Ruddock fights trump anything that both brothers have done ... just LISTEN to the massive shots they throw at each other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUAG1bjht40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVJVvDTJeo
You think Wlad would EVER be able to sustain punishment like that? What if one of Razor Ruddock's "smashes" landed on his jaw or a Tyson combo to his body?
His life would be in danger. These two would put him in intensive care.
These two fights are the two most underrated heavyweight fights ever ... rarely will you ever see the kind of punishment exchanged between two heavyweights like that.
Boxing died when its true king and maestro Iron Mike Tyson retired. Hell, even Tyson vs. McBride was better than anything Wlad put on!
Tyson vs Ruddock aftermath
Tyson Breaks Foe`s Jaw, Not Title Snag - Chicago TribuneQuote:
LAS VEGAS — Donovan ``Razor`` Ruddock had nothing to say Saturday morning about his latest loss to Mike Tyson. That`s because he has a broken jaw that will remain wired shut for six weeks.
Ruddock sustained not only his second straight loss to Tyson, but a physical beating normally reserved for an alley.
The unanimous 12-round decision would seem to finally set up a Tyson title match with champion Evander Holyfield, but that possibility is as bogged down as ever in a contract hassle and heavyweight politics.
By the time Ruddock heard that judges Dalby Shirley and Art Lurie (both 114-108) and Chuck Giampa (113-109) had scored Friday night`s foul-marred bout against him, his lower lip was leaking blood and his left cheek was severely swollen. And if referee Mills Lane hadn`t deducted three points from Tyson for low blows (to one for Ruddock), the scorecards would have been as lopsided as Ruddock`s face.
``Donovan `Razor` Ruddock is not a sore loser,`` said Ruddock`s promoter, Murad Muhammad, as he tried to explain his fighter`s absence from Saturday`s press briefing. ``He is, in fact, sore.
``He went without my knowledge to the hospital (after the fight). They found out a little part of his jaw is broken. Right now, he is in the hospital.
``His jaw is being set. His eye is puffed. Of course, his hands hurt a little bit. But he never complains about his body. He just can`t understand, with the punching power he has, how Mike Tyson took those shots. We salute Mike Tyson today as the best heavyweight in the world.``
After losing 14 of the 19 rounds he has fought against Tyson, that would seem to be a minimum concession on Ruddock`s part. But Tyson`s critics continued to maintain that the former champion, at 24, is no longer the fearsome fighter he was at 21, even after he had battered Ruddock`s rib cage, broken his jaw and knocked him down twice.
One of those critics is Eddie Futch, the veteran trainer of rising heavyweight Riddick Bowe. He feels Tyson`s lifestyle is catching up with him. As for whether Holyfield or any other heavyweight could handle him, Tyson had this to say: ``In all reality, I`m the champion. The belts are just a symbol. I`ve said I want to fight Holyfield many times. I was entitled to his first defense, but I didn`t get it. He knows he can`t beat me. I know he can`t beat me.``
Tyson promoter Don King reaffirmed his offer of $30 million plus half the promotion to Holyfield. He also said he was willing to accept $25 million and no end of the promotion to get Tyson a title fight. What he will not accept is TVKO`s demand for two options on Tyson.
King also offered George Foreman $15 million plus a percentage of the pay-per-view profits to fight Tyson Nov. 1 at the Mirage, and he says that whichever fighter agrees first gets the bout. Holyfield`s handlers also are trying to lure Foreman with a Nov. 8 rematch at Caesars Palace, thus again leaving Foreman the biggest winner of the night.
``TVKO is where the real problem lies,`` King said. ``It ain`t the Duvas
(Holyfield`s handlers) so much. It`s TVKO. They don`t want me involved in the promotion. All these major fights have been co-promotions for years. They don`t want me to make a dime. What am I supposed to be, Bobo the Clown? Hate me, but hate me to your respective bank and let me go to mine.
``We know the challenger is bigger than the champion. That half-page ad
(Holyfield took out in Las Vegas papers last week challenging Tyson) proves that he`s only half a champion. I put in a full-page ad just to say Only in America. They got the champion chasing the challenger.``
Now a word from the other side. ``After last night, we are totally convinced that Holyfield will beat Tyson,`` Dan Duva, Holyfield`s promoter, said Saturday. ``Don King is afraid of that.``
Well, at least one thing is clear in the heavyweight ranks: Ruddock can`t beat Tyson.
He spent most of the evening hurling wild power punches at the former champion. On several occasions, they hurt Tyson but failed to wobble him. Meanwhile, Tyson dropped Ruddock in the second and fourth rounds with straight rights to the jaw that countered Ruddock`s powerful left hooks.
``It was a very competitive fight,`` Tyson said. ``Much more so than our first fight (which ended in a controversial seventh-round TKO). If his jaw was broken, you never could tell.
``I knew he`d get up. They were like flash knockdowns. They never really hurt him. He rocked me, too, but I didn`t feel it until this morning. I feel like I got beat up by 20 guys.``
Other than the knockdowns, Tyson`s most effective weapon was a two-fisted body attack that strayed south of the Canadian`s border at least a dozen times. More often, they were thrashing Ruddock`s rib cage with a thudding sound.
One of those punches crashed so hard into Ruddock`s ribs in Round 7 that he responded with a rush of air from his mouth that sounded like a train whistle.
In a sense, that whistle signaled the end of Ruddock`s ride toward a championship, although his remarkable recuperative powers allowed him to come back so effectively in Round 10 that Tyson walked slowly to his corner and sat with head bowed when it was over.
Tyson`s trainer, Richie Giachetti, sensing his fighter was growing discouraged despite his big lead, grabbed Tyson`s face and began shouting at him. And across the ring, Ruddock`s cornermen were telling him that Tyson was ready to fall.
As it developed, he was not. Which leaves the Holyfield-Tyson question and the contract mess that goes with it.
Yeah, Wlad is really going to beat that man.