Devastating News...Flintoff likely forced to retire through injury

Flintoff Has Shoulder Surgery, Ring Career Likely Done - Boxing News

I'm in tears here guys. A genuine prospect retiring after just 1 fight. This is a dark day for boxing.

Maybe we can make this thread a petition to get him in the Hall Of Fame. Who is with me?

Cant believe this!

Danny williams was the next target as well..damn.

What?!?!

It's over?! ??? :( :( :(

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

gutted mind you his last opponent nearly pulled a willie pep on him in them last rounds ;D;D;D

Has Audley not been calling him out on twitter yet :-X

You guys are being way to harsh, that was a decent performance against a guy paid to not throw punches.

Shock & horror...he was going to change the face of Heavyweight boxing...he was the saviour....sob sob!!!

job biscuit (tennis elbow)!!!

eh eh!!!

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

Has anybody ever heard of a torn shoulder ligament ending a career before?

I agree with Fenster although he is being sarcastic but I am serious. You lot are mean spirited individuals. Flintoff trained his ass off and got in condition and fought and undefeated opponent in his first fight with no boxing experience of his own. He brought a lot of mainstream attention to the game and all you can do is laugh at his career threatening injury!. I am disgusted and ashamed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Master

I agree with Fenster although he is being sarcastic but I am serious. You lot are mean spirited individuals. Flintoff trained his ass off and got in condition and fought and undefeated opponent in his first fight with no boxing experience of his own. He brought a lot of mainstream attention to the game and all you can do is laugh at his career threatening injury!. I am disgusted and ashamed.

---

I'm not sure that works mate (;D)

His shoulder was already fucked from his cricket career, along with his knee and other stuff (I heard his former team mates saying this weeks before his fight).

He was not ready for two minute rounds.

To soon.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fenster

You guys are being way to harsh, that was a decent performance against a guy paid to not throw punches.

---

This pretty much sums it up.
Fight was fixed big time.

Flintoff injured? Oh how disappointing, as i was so looking forward to Flintoff challenging Warney in the ring.... winner gets Liz!;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

Given what we saw from Flintoff it would appear that a reasonable level of fitness is all thats required.

Start boxing as a kid and keep going until you cant do it no more, different ball game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

He showed some bottle, but take it from somebody who has competed in more rounds than Flintoff has sparred - that should not be called boxing.

Like Fenster said - I'm not even convinced that the fat tomato can wasn't paid to not throw any punches.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

He showed some bottle, but take it from somebody who has competed in more rounds than Flintoff has sparred - that should not be called boxing.

Like Fenster said - I'm not even convinced that the fat tomato can wasn't paid to not throw any punches.

---

Of course it should be called boxing.....this was his first fight at any level, Guys going into their Pro Debuts are usually experienced amateurs who have boxed between 20-30 fights, the fight was shit but you need to have a little understanding as to why, let's face it he was never going to look like a Contender, but for what it was I gotta give he Guy Props!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

You cant learn how to throw a punch in 4 months?

We see the hillbilly boxer guy leaping around throwing punches like a cat and we all laugh but we're supposed to say well done Freddie Flintoff, you've made the ultimate in human sacrifice to become a boxer?

Flintoff is a privileged guy who got privileged treatment over the course of 4 months and at the end of it didnt know how to punch properly, thats a fact. Yes he showed the willingness to train hard and the willingness to get in the ring but thats it.

I did a driving experience day a while back around a race track after a couple of hours instruction. That makes me about as close to Sebastian Vettel as Flintoff is to Bernard Hopkins.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

Pros fight 3 minute rounds, if anything it was a exhibition

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

You cant learn how to throw a punch in 4 months?
K
We see the hillbilly boxer guy leaping around throwing punches like a cat and we all laugh but we're supposed to say well done Freddie Flintoff, you've made the ultimate in human sacrifice to become a boxer?

Flintoff is a privileged guy who got privileged treatment over the course of 4 months and at the end of it didnt know how to punch properly, thats a fact. Yes he showed the willingness to train hard and the willingness to get in the ring but thats it.

I did a driving experience day a while back around a race track after a couple of hours instruction. That makes me about as close to Sebastian Vettel as Flintoff is to Bernard Hopkins.

---

The one Thing Flintoff has never been is Priviliged, he rose to the top of Cricket coming from a Council Estate, the lad came from absolutely nothing, so to put Priviliged in any sentence with Freddie mentioned in it is stark raving Lunacy, the lad was still wearing hand me down clothes at 12!!

Flintoff demonstratted in the fight he was able to throw a punch and jabbed reasonably well, however he lost shape and became a little messy in his eagerness to put behind the knock down...he was over eager....and that's probably the one thing you can never train to combat in the ring, anyone that steps between the ropes wants to prove they have balls and they haven't he ring intelligence to slow things down and box like they have in training sessions....it's what novices do!!!

I've been around combat sports since I was a kid and to do what Flintoff did after such a short time of training is worthy of respect and certainly not derision....he is never going to make it Big, but he has done something that 99.9% of Internet keyboard warriors have never actually done.....props from me!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by boyla

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

Pros fight 3 minute rounds, if anything it was a exhibition

---

if you don't know the difference between an actual fight and an exhibition, don't waste your time quoting my posts :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

He retired undefeated and has nothing left to prove. Will forever be among the rocky marcianos of our time.

Thank fuck for that , it's as bad as ME in come dancing I had to retire through in injury I broke a Cuban
heel OOOOOOOOOOO h the pain. May I apologize to all my fans.;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

You cant learn how to throw a punch in 4 months?
K
We see the hillbilly boxer guy leaping around throwing punches like a cat and we all laugh but we're supposed to say well done Freddie Flintoff, you've made the ultimate in human sacrifice to become a boxer?

Flintoff is a privileged guy who got privileged treatment over the course of 4 months and at the end of it didnt know how to punch properly, thats a fact. Yes he showed the willingness to train hard and the willingness to get in the ring but thats it.

I did a driving experience day a while back around a race track after a couple of hours instruction. That makes me about as close to Sebastian Vettel as Flintoff is to Bernard Hopkins.

---

The one Thing Flintoff has never been is Priviliged, he rose to the top of Cricket coming from a Council Estate, the lad came from absolutely nothing, so to put Priviliged in any sentence with Freddie mentioned in it is stark raving Lunacy, the lad was still wearing hand me down clothes at 12!!

Flintoff demonstratted in the fight he was able to throw a punch and jabbed reasonably well, however he lost shape and became a little messy in his eagerness to put behind the knock down...he was over eager....and that's probably the one thing you can never train to combat in the ring, anyone that steps between the ropes wants to prove they have balls and they haven't he ring intelligence to slow things down and box like they have in training sessions....it's what novices do!!!

I've been around combat sports since I was a kid and to do what Flintoff did after such a short time of training is worthy of respect and certainly not derision....he is never going to make it Big, but he has done something that 99.9% of Internet keyboard warriors have never actually done.....props from me!!!

---

I never said I dont respect what he did. He worked hard and got himself into great shape for the fight, I give him his due for that.

Coming from a council estate and rising to become (at one point at least anyway) the biggest star in World cricket is what means he had a privilaged path into boxing. He didnt spend weeks, months training on the periphery looking doe eyed at the ring thinking one day I'll be able to get in there and spar....fight. His background meant that he could walk into 4 months of saturated one on one training with top quality trainers. Thats privileged. The result of which was he didnt know how to throw punch number 2.

Right Flintoff is a great cricketer, but he can't box for shit it's a fact it's a sorry state to give a complete
novice with NO boxing experience what so ever, a pro boxing licence. Why because it was shocking
I've seen 16 year old's that would have kicked hiss ass, in the ring fact not bullshit.;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Memphis

Perhaps the dodgy shoulder was why he 'punched' like a retard?

---

No that will be never having had a single fight in his life before he made his Pro debut and having only trained for 4 months to get him there......I know lads who have been training 4 months before now and have never even sparred!!

---

You cant learn how to throw a punch in 4 months?
K
We see the hillbilly boxer guy leaping around throwing punches like a cat and we all laugh but we're supposed to say well done Freddie Flintoff, you've made the ultimate in human sacrifice to become a boxer?

Flintoff is a privileged guy who got privileged treatment over the course of 4 months and at the end of it didnt know how to punch properly, thats a fact. Yes he showed the willingness to train hard and the willingness to get in the ring but thats it.

I did a driving experience day a while back around a race track after a couple of hours instruction. That makes me about as close to Sebastian Vettel as Flintoff is to Bernard Hopkins.

---

The one Thing Flintoff has never been is Priviliged, he rose to the top of Cricket coming from a Council Estate, the lad came from absolutely nothing, so to put Priviliged in any sentence with Freddie mentioned in it is stark raving Lunacy, the lad was still wearing hand me down clothes at 12!!

Flintoff demonstratted in the fight he was able to throw a punch and jabbed reasonably well, however he lost shape and became a little messy in his eagerness to put behind the knock down...he was over eager....and that's probably the one thing you can never train to combat in the ring, anyone that steps between the ropes wants to prove they have balls and they haven't he ring intelligence to slow things down and box like they have in training sessions....it's what novices do!!!

I've been around combat sports since I was a kid and to do what Flintoff did after such a short time of training is worthy of respect and certainly not derision....he is never going to make it Big, but he has done something that 99.9% of Internet keyboard warriors have never actually done.....props from me!!!

---

I never said I dont respect what he did. He worked hard and got himself into great shape for the fight, I give him his due for that.

Coming from a council estate and rising to become (at one point at least anyway) the biggest star in World cricket is what means he had a privilaged path into boxing. He didnt spend weeks, months training on the periphery looking doe eyed at the ring thinking one day I'll be able to get in there and spar....fight. His background meant that he could walk into 4 months of saturated one on one training with top quality trainers. Thats privileged. The result of which was he didnt know how to throw punch number 2.

---

I don't see it that way, he was friends with McGuigan and as a mate Barry said to him give it a go and I will train you, for me that's simply what mates do and not at all Priviliged.....good post though:thumb:

[QUOTE=Dia bando;1121533]Right Flintoff is a great cricketer, but he can't box for shit it's a fact it's a sorry state to give a complete
novice with NO boxing experience what so ever, a pro boxing licence. Why because it was shocking
I've seen 16 year old's that would have kicked hiss ass, in the ring fact not bullshit.;)[/winning QUOTE]
The mere fact he won against another opponent who had fought twice before professionally and he had been given his license by another Boxing Board actually justifies him being awarded his own licence, if he gets his ass handed to him it's shocking, but winning against an experienced fighter who had fought Am, only Highlights he was ready!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

You actuallly considered that Boxing?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

He showed some bottle, but take it from somebody who has competed in more rounds than Flintoff has sparred - that should not be called boxing.

Like Fenster said - I'm not even convinced that the fat tomato can wasn't paid to not throw any punches.

---

Of course it should be called boxing.....this was his first fight at any level, Guys going into their Pro Debuts are usually experienced amateurs who have boxed between 20-30 fights, the fight was shit but you need to have a little understanding as to why, let's face it he was never going to look like a Contender, but for what it was I gotta give he Guy Props!

---

They were 2 minute rounds, his opponent was shite and he was trained by an ex-world champion...
...and even viewed as a first amature fight instead of pro, it was embarrassingly poor. It would be below average for a first time even sparring.

Like I said, he showed bottle... Nothing more.

You get found out very quickly in boxing, there have literally hundreds of what they call 'Gym' champions, someone who is outstanding in the gym and in training, but the moment they enter the ring and someone hits them back everything they have learned remains in the training gym. Every boxer gets hit at some point (even Floyd) it's how you react to that and respond in turn that makes or breaks you. As the old saying goes "hit and don't get hit" Abilene saloon owner Phil Coe, who stated he could "kill a crow on the wing," (flying) is one of the Old West's most famous sayings, and it showed that Wild Bill Hickok was certainly a cool customer in a fight. He answered Coe by sneering, "Did the crow have a pistol? Was he shooting back? I will be.
In boxing the other guy fights back and unless you are very good you will get nailed at some point! Flintoff can leave his boxing career in the gym from now on.

[QUOTE=mofo2;1121571]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dia bando

Right Flintoff is a great cricketer, but he can't box for shit it's a fact it's a sorry state to give a complete
novice with NO boxing experience what so ever, a pro boxing licence. Why because it was shocking
I've seen 16 year old's that would have kicked hiss ass, in the ring fact not bullshit.;)[/winning QUOTE]
The mere fact he won against another opponent who had fought twice before professionally and he had been given his license by another Boxing Board actually justifies him being awarded his own licence, if he gets his ass handed to him it's shocking, but winning against an experienced fighter who had fought Am, only Highlights he was ready!!!

---

Let's see a very large Pig is flying over my garden at the moment, it truly is a wonder to watch or there
again I may be just full of SHIT.:rolleyes:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mofo2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Mock all you want, how many of you here have a perfect pro record or even 1 fight?

Boxing fans seem to forget what it takes to be a boxer, even for one fight.

---

He showed some bottle, but take it from somebody who has competed in more rounds than Flintoff has sparred - that should not be called boxing.

Like Fenster said - I'm not even convinced that the fat tomato can wasn't paid to not throw any punches.

---

Of course it should be called boxing.....this was his first fight at any level, Guys going into their Pro Debuts are usually experienced amateurs who have boxed between 20-30 fights, the fight was shit but you need to have a little understanding as to why, let's face it he was never going to look like a Contender, but for what it was I gotta give he Guy Props!

---

They were 2 minute rounds, his opponent was shite and he was trained by an ex-world champion...
...and even viewed as a first amature fight instead of pro, it was embarrassingly poor. It would be below average for a first time even sparring.

Like I said, he showed bottle... Nothing more.

---

Adam come on now bud, that's the best HW I've EVER SEEN,:rolleyes:, give him may be 10 or 15 years he could become a white collar champ.;D