Fights you found unpleasant to watch

Now I love toe to toe action and knockouts as much as the next person, but every so often a fight comes up that has me feeling a little off putted by what's going on.

Either because someone is getting beaten up too badly, or the fight is a total mismatch. I think the most I've ever been disturbed by a fight was Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs. Shannon immediately had no chance and his corner would not pull him out. I was disturbed how Vitali kept on wailing on him even in the later rounds, as was his right but I remember wishing him to just carry Shannon until the end.

I also can't stand to watch Gerry Cooney's knockout of Ken Norton, I swear to god Cooney punched with the force of a speeding motorcycle.

Are there any fights that disturbed you guys and maybe made you question why you watch boxing?

Roberto Duran brutalising Davey Moore was very hard to watch.

Resto/Collins
Margarito/Cotto
Foreman/Frazier

Shannons Briggs vs Liakovich was very unpleasant, hardly under the same circumstances of course;D. It just struck me that one fight alone may well have been the reason Briggs' corner didn't pull him out against Vitali though:-\ Agreed on that one btw, it was just depressing to watch.

I remember a while after that fight, Shannon Briggs and fat twit Dan Rafael got into some kind of cyber flame war, and Rafael said something along the lines of I wish you had gone 3 more rounds with Vitali. I found that really cringeworthy, coming from a morbidly obese cunt who makes his living off the sport doing fuck all. I'd like to see him go 1 round with a heavy bag, the imbecile.

I think Ali vs Holmes has to take this cake, you could see Ali shaking in the corner between rounds. Mustve been truly sad for anyone who watched it live.

Ray Leonard against Terry Norris was another one that nobody had to see.

I don't know how anyone let Ali fight Holmes. That was not boxing, no sweet science there. That was people's perverse lust for seeing a great man plummet to the ground.

Larry Donald vs Evander Holyfield

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I think Ali vs Holmes has to take this cake, you could see Ali shaking in the corner between rounds. Mustve been truly sad for anyone who watched it live.

Ray Leonard against Terry Norris was another one that nobody had to see.

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Cant believe I forgot Ali/Holmes. I was horrified and wanted to literally kill King.

Ali V Holmes should never have happened.

Roy Jones jr V Danny Green should never have happened.

Mike Tyson v Lennox Lewis should never have happened.

DLH V Pacman happened, but it was sure hard to watch the once great DLH become a punching bag for the Pacman.

Mayorga vs. Oscar sucked big time....

In recent years I've found it sad to watch Vivian Harris get KO'd time and time again by every up coming prospect he met.

Rahman's non effort fat slob showing against Povetkin was also depressing.

This fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=movtSx1mPYk
Gastineau is such a punk it disturbed me how much I enjoyed seeing him get his ass kicked.

Seeing Gatti getting smacked around by Mayweather is entertaining but I find it slightly hard to watch now.

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Either because someone is getting beaten up too badly, or the fight is a total mismatch. I think the most I've ever been disturbed by a fight was Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs. Shannon immediately had no chance and his corner would not pull him out. I was disturbed how Vitali kept on wailing on him even in the later rounds, as was his right but I remember wishing him to just carry Shannon until the end.

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The referee was irresponsible and should have stopped the Briggs-Klitschko fight by the 9th round.

Another one like that was the Vitali-Adamek fight. Adamek was too brave to quit, and for round after round he took a one-sided beating. Thankfully the referee in that one was more responsible and eventually did stop it.

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Ali V Holmes should never have happened.

Roy Jones jr V Danny Green should never have happened.

Mike Tyson v Lennox Lewis should never have happened.

DLH V Pacman happened, but it was sure hard to watch the once great DLH become a punching bag for the Pacman.

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All of this is true.

Holmes vs Ali was the worst though ... at least the others could fight back, Ali hardly even fought back and was just being pounded in the corner.

People were actually pretty pissed at Holmes after that ... I remember he even once recalled a woman tell him that she hated him because he "beat Ali."

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Either because someone is getting beaten up too badly, or the fight is a total mismatch. I think the most I've ever been disturbed by a fight was Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs. Shannon immediately had no chance and his corner would not pull him out. I was disturbed how Vitali kept on wailing on him even in the later rounds, as was his right but I remember wishing him to just carry Shannon until the end.

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The referee was irresponsible and should have stopped the Briggs-Klitschko fight by the 9th round.

Another one like that was the Vitali-Adamek fight. Adamek was too brave to quit, and for round after round he took a one-sided beating. Thankfully the referee in that one was more responsible and eventually did stop it.

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Briggs vs Klitschko was disgraceful ... Vitali kept going for the KO of the defenseless Briggs ... and the Klitschko's are called "gentlemanly" by their delusional fans. Vitali has had a history of poor sportsmanship ... Corrie Sanders (RIP) pointed this out too

Liakhovich/Briggs was difficult for other reasons. What was the total punch count 20?

Most recently: Kirland - Angulo. That fight should have been stopped by the end of the 3rd round.

Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

Ali -Frazier III, (the thrilla) Joe took a horrible beating and so did Ali, this fight basically end both pugs careers as well as ruining their health, very unpleasant to watch.

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Originally Posted by Mctaggert

Now I love toe to toe action and knockouts as much as the next person, but every so often a fight comes up that has me feeling a little off putted by what's going on.

Either because someone is getting beaten up too badly, or the fight is a total mismatch. I think the most I've ever been disturbed by a fight was Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs. Shannon immediately had no chance and his corner would not pull him out. I was disturbed how Vitali kept on wailing on him even in the later rounds, as was his right but I remember wishing him to just carry Shannon until the end.

I also can't stand to watch Gerry Cooney's knockout of Ken Norton, I swear to god Cooney punched with the force of a speeding motorcycle.

Are there any fights that disturbed you guys and maybe made you question why you watch boxing?

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I feel the same way you do, I want to see a fight not a beating.
Corner men who show no empathy for their fighter are low on my list. Watching an overmatched fighter take heavy punches to the head, round after round, when they don't have a chance of winning, being sent back out by his corner men, makes me want to wade into them with a 36oz bat.
There is one other kind of fight that pisses me off almost as much. Two punchless boxers doing the same thing round after round after round. I know these guys are giving it all they have and that should be enough, but I usually can't stay tuned.

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Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

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Good calls, Duran being fed to Joppy is indeed a shame. Don't actually remember what kind of beating Taylor took against Chavez in the rematch, but on those same lines Oscar De La Hoya giving Chavez a rematch 2 years after knocking his dentures out was pretty worthless.

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Seeing Gatti getting smacked around by Mayweather is entertaining but I find it slightly hard to watch now.

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Agreed Gatti had no chance and got shit kicked but wouldn't stop...until he finally did get stopped.

Roy Jones Jr. vs Richard Hall was pretty brutal. Roy hit him with EVERY punch imaginable...I couldn't believe the look on Hall's face when it was finally stopped. He wanted to continue even tho Roy probably hadn't missed a punch all night!

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Now I love toe to toe action and knockouts as much as the next person, but every so often a fight comes up that has me feeling a little off putted by what's going on.

Either because someone is getting beaten up too badly, or the fight is a total mismatch. I think the most I've ever been disturbed by a fight was Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs. Shannon immediately had no chance and his corner would not pull him out. I was disturbed how Vitali kept on wailing on him even in the later rounds, as was his right but I remember wishing him to just carry Shannon until the end.

I also can't stand to watch Gerry Cooney's knockout of Ken Norton, I swear to god Cooney punched with the force of a speeding motorcycle.

Are there any fights that disturbed you guys and maybe made you question why you watch boxing?

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very similar to a question I have often asked. Yes watching Foreman decapitate Frazier esp. the 2nd knockdown (the uppercut from Hell) was very disturbing for me. in their first fight I mean.

Also fights like Resto with the plaster wraps or whatever it was.

Cooney's KO of Norton is also very disturbing for me as Norton was stuck in a sitting position on the turnbuckle and was already unconscious when Cooney delivered another 4 wailing shots with full force. Ref should be tarred and feathered and fed to lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fb0Qidm9Fg

also unpleasant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySi4r5HsvCs

in recent memory Ashley Theothane v lenny Daws started to become a bit worrying

Derek Chrisora vs. Danny Williams was very sad. Williams should never have been allowed to get in the ring and he shouldn't have a licence now either.

I agree with Gatti-Mayweather. That was a bad beating.

I might've pulled Pavlik out alot earlier against Hopkins.

Holmes-Ali should never have happened.

I also feel quite sad when I see Riddick Bowe on a Klitschko undercard fighting a 4 rounder. He looks like a bear that has been taken away from his family and chained in a circus cage only to be pulled out and have to perform for people.

Cotto vs Margarito I
Seeing Angulo gassed out and getting beat on by Kirkland was a bit difficult especially since I was rooting for Angulo.

All of Devon Alexander's fights are pretty unpleasant to watch as well.

Emmanuel Augustus vs Ray Olivera on ESPN FNF a few years back comes to mind. Not 100% sure if memory is correct but I recall Augustus all but refusing to hit Olivera in the head after a certain point. Hard to watch but at the same time a great display of class by Augustus.....I became a true fan of his that night

The one's I don't like are the one's where a guy has a great chin and is too tough for his own good and is just taking huge, unanswered punishment (think Tex Cobb vs Holmes or Roy Jones vs Richard Hall) and you know they don't have it in them to win the fight. Then it's no longer a competition, it's just a slaughtering.

Take Jones vs Hall, Hall couldn't touch Jones all night and just kept stumbling forward awkwardly and taking bomb after flush bomb from Jones. Wasn't a contest between two evenly matched fighters, it was just a mugging.

Also like everyone I hate watching fights where guys I like get whipped.

When I first got into boxing the only three names I knew really were Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya and Roy Jones.

Then over the next few years I had to watch them all take brutal losses (Tyson to Lewis and then Danny Williams, Roy to Tarver and Johnson, and Oscar to Bhop). Those fights were all very unpleasant and it was only many years later I could actually watch them and enjoy them for the skill that Lewis, Tarver and Bhop displayed in destroying my favorites.

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Cooney vs. Norton reminded me a lot of the ending of the Ray Mercer vs Tommy Morrison fight, WTF took the ref so long to stop it?

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Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

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Good calls, Duran being fed to Joppy is indeed a shame. Don't actually remember what kind of beating Taylor took against Chavez in the rematch, but on those same lines Oscar De La Hoya giving Chavez a rematch 2 years after knocking his dentures out was pretty worthless.

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Ha, didn't think of that. Agreed man. Chavez was patched back together for Oscar and got pummeled.

Taylor didn't fall apart until late in rematch and stood strong early with a few flashes of old self but it was a matter of time. What has alway bothered me about that one is that King and JCC just towed an obviously faded Taylor along, stuffing him on Chavez undercards where he was being hit clean by club fighters and then finally "made rematch" after Chavez bs rematch result with Randall. Insult to injury was Taylor going down in weight. It was like a short cut to 'redemption' and King trying to keep his faded meal ticket safe. Randall should have been an instant rematch...not 10 years later.

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Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

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Good calls, Duran being fed to Joppy is indeed a shame. Don't actually remember what kind of beating Taylor took against Chavez in the rematch, but on those same lines Oscar De La Hoya giving Chavez a rematch 2 years after knocking his dentures out was pretty worthless.

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Ha, didn't think of that. Agreed man. Chavez was patched back together for Oscar and got pummeled.

Taylor didn't fall apart until late in rematch and stood strong early with a few flashes of old self but it was a matter of time. What has alway bothered me about that one is that King and JCC just towed an obviously faded Taylor along, stuffing him on Chavez undercards where he was being hit clean by club fighters and then finally "made rematch" after Chavez bs rematch result with Randall. Insult to injury was Taylor going down in weight. It was like a short cut to 'redemption' and King trying to keep his faded meal ticket safe. Randall should have been an instant rematch...not 10 years later.

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Assuming you meant an instant rubber match? Chavez did rematch Randall but hardly settled the score in that one, that was a bullshit TD where Randall had a point docked for an accidental butt. He was ahead on points regardles imo, although I haven't seen that one in forever.

One man's brutal beating is another man's pleasant satisfaction.

I loved Norris and Macho Man batter Leonard. :)

I hated seeing :

Gatti v Gomez
Tyson v Lewis
JCC v Oscar II
Honeyghan v Breland :eek:

Holmes/Tyson Duran/Joppy Tyson/Williams Louis/Marciano.

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Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

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Good calls, Duran being fed to Joppy is indeed a shame. Don't actually remember what kind of beating Taylor took against Chavez in the rematch, but on those same lines Oscar De La Hoya giving Chavez a rematch 2 years after knocking his dentures out was pretty worthless.

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Ha, didn't think of that. Agreed man. Chavez was patched back together for Oscar and got pummeled.

Taylor didn't fall apart until late in rematch and stood strong early with a few flashes of old self but it was a matter of time. What has alway bothered me about that one is that King and JCC just towed an obviously faded Taylor along, stuffing him on Chavez undercards where he was being hit clean by club fighters and then finally "made rematch" after Chavez bs rematch result with Randall. Insult to injury was Taylor going down in weight. It was like a short cut to 'redemption' and King trying to keep his faded meal ticket safe. Randall should have been an instant rematch...not 10 years later.

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Assuming you meant an instant rubber match? Chavez did rematch Randall but hardly settled the score in that one, that was a bullshit TD where Randall had a point docked for an accidental butt. He was ahead on points regardles imo, although I haven't seen that one in forever.

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In a perfect world he would have settled "unfinished business" before naming the card with Taylor the same thing. I personally think Randall was on his way to a late tko or certain W there. Then King has the nerve to stand on live TV and say Randall should fight Pernell Whitaker and the winner would "get a fight with Julio"...after both pretty much had their way with him :p

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Unfortunately there are just too many. A few that stick personally
Carl Griffith vs Serguei Artemiev way back...you could see him being hurt but wouldn't fold
Meldrick Taylor in 2nd match with Chavez...one where the 'sell by' date had long expired. Terrible.
Simon Brown vs Bernard Hopkins...shame on ya Bernard.
Gabe Ruelas vs Jimmy Garcia
Duran being led to utter slaughter with William Joppy. Absolute travesty.

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Good calls, Duran being fed to Joppy is indeed a shame. Don't actually remember what kind of beating Taylor took against Chavez in the rematch, but on those same lines Oscar De La Hoya giving Chavez a rematch 2 years after knocking his dentures out was pretty worthless.

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Actually, I was surprised how many nice right hands found Oscar in their rematch. The only thing that seperated them (eventualy) was conditioning.

I've kinda come to the conclusion that there was a a fair amount of bla-ness about Delay Hoya, especially above 140.

Jeff Lacy taking a drubbing off Calzaghe, his corner were very brave Jeff taking all that punishment,
the shit bags. I can never understand people taking a fucking hiding over 12 rounds.:(

felt bad for Foreman when Holyfield landed 36 unanswered shots...........poor old guy---prime George woulda KILLED Evander. He took those shots from a prime Holy with grace and self-respect and held it together. Then almost put Holy down next round with a glancing left hook. Seriously....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJO7vOWta_s

also: i dont like watching earnie take this beat down---but Quarry was at his peak so give him props

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik

I have the following fights but have never seen them:
Collins vs. Resto
Pintor vs. Owen
Duran vs. Joppy

I just can't be bothered to watch them. Maybe one day I will but it hasn't happened in the 7 yrs or so that I've had the fights.