Dirrell vs froch 2.

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

That rematch will never ever happen I can guarantee that to you now.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

That rematch will never ever happen I can guarantee that to you now.

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Do you think dirrell deserves one?
Kessler is giving froch another go.

The Kessler fight is a good fun fight that lots of fans want to see. The first fight was close and could go either way so we need to see a decisive winner!

The Dirrell fight was boring and uneventful. We watched Froch chase Dirrell around the ring for 12 rounds. It was a very close fight and Froch was lucky to get it but really do we want to see that again?

Dirrell has done nothing recently and doesn't deserve a rematch.does he even want to fight Carl just now very much doubt it.the Kessler fight appeals to every 1 and it's defo not a easy fight for froch but 1 I think he will win.

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Originally Posted by imp

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

That rematch will never ever happen I can guarantee that to you now.

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Do you think dirrell deserves one?
Kessler is giving froch another go.

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No he doesn't he made the first fight a spoiler and he hasn't done anything at all of late. I can't even remember the last time he had a fight and he has done nothing of note to merit a rematch. He holds no belt and has had one fight since the injury to Abraham. I don't even think he had one fight in 2012. He's a waste of talent, but no I don't think he deserves another shot at Froch, Froch has bigger fish to fry. That's why he's fighting Kessler and if he gets through the fight he will hopefully fight Ward.

Dirrell had a lot of management problems. At least he is sorted now and being trained by by floyd mayweather sr.

I think dirrell can still put himself in the mix this year if he keeps himself busy.

Ward biggest threat could still be carl froch. I just would like to see the rematch with dirrel first..

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Originally Posted by imp

Dirrell had a lot of management problems. At least he is sorted now and being trained by by floyd mayweather sr.

I think dirrell can still put himself in the mix this year if he keeps himself busy.

Ward biggest threat could still be carl froch. I just would like to see the rematch with dirrel first..

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Froch will stay clear of it though I doubt he wants to fight somebody who was so negative for the whole fight. I'd like to see Dirrell get back In the mix because he's not done anything for years.

Dirrell is never going to get the chance to fight Froch again. Frankly, I don't really want to see that fight because the first one wasn't fun to watch.

I want Dirrell to face Ward. I get the feeling a little bit like Ward is ducking Dirrell. Not outright ducking, but like given the risk/reward, he won't face him. Why else would Ward angle for a fight with Froch or Kessler when he already beat them? If Bute had beat Froch, Bute would have been a logical opponent, but other than that, Dirrell is the only super middleweight worth a damn for legacy sake that Ward hasn't faced. On the flip side of the coin, Dirrell hasn't done jack in the last two years. He needs to get his name back on television against good names.

The first fight wasn't close, it just stunk. There was no way to actually give it to Froch imo. Having said that I don't think Dirrell "deserves" any sort of big fight until he makes some noise, if he even plans to.

It's unlikely he'll get them, but either Bute or Pavlik would be Dirrells best shot chance to really put himself in the spotlight this year imo. I'm not sure whether Ward still plans to fight Pavlik after his injury heals or if Bute might fight him instead? Either way Direll vs the odd man out there would be good to see happen.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

The first fight wasn't close, it just stunk. There was no way to actually give it to Froch imo. Having said that I don't think Dirrell "deserves" any sort of big fight until he makes some noise, if he even plans to.

It's unlikely he'll get them, but either Bute or Pavlik would be Dirrells best shot chance to really put himself in the spotlight this year imo. I'm not sure whether Ward still plans to fight Pavlik after his injury heals or if Bute might fight him instead? Either way Direll vs the odd man out there would be good to see happen.

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But, why would Bute or Pavlik ever fight Dirrell? It makes zero sense. They are two super middleweights who actually have followings and brand names. Ward would jump at the chance to face either of them and they make more money facing Ward.

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The first fight wasn't close, it just stunk. There was no way to actually give it to Froch imo. Having said that I don't think Dirrell "deserves" any sort of big fight until he makes some noise, if he even plans to.

It's unlikely he'll get them, but either Bute or Pavlik would be Dirrells best shot chance to really put himself in the spotlight this year imo. I'm not sure whether Ward still plans to fight Pavlik after his injury heals or if Bute might fight him instead? Either way Direll vs the odd man out there would be good to see happen.

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But, why would Bute or Pavlik ever fight Dirrell? It makes zero sense. They are two super middleweights who actually have followings and brand names. Ward would jump at the chance to face either of them and they make more money facing Ward.

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Oh for sure, as I said it's unlikely. Not sure whether Pavlik really does have much a name left though, if so, why he was to fight Ward without really settling into the weight class or fighting anyone close to that level first? That always struck me a desperate cash out, although Ward doesn't sell much himself.
I haven't seen Direll fight since the Abraham fiasco, surely there's a chance he'd be rusty or even possibly affected by the supposed brain injury. Either way he's still a lot more beatable than Ward for someone who can punch.

Dirrell is finished as an elite fighter. Abraham destroyed him and as a fighter he's a shadow of his past self.

The crowd were booing during a Froch fight (and they weren't booing him). That says it all.

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Originally Posted by imp

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

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I read a while ago direll does not want a rematch. I dont get why ppl are so high on Direll, He lost against the cobra, quit and crumbled against MW Abraham and has not been seen since!

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Originally Posted by imp

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

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I read a while ago direll does not want a rematch. I dont get why ppl are so high on Direll, He lost against the cobra, quit and crumbled against MW Abraham and has not been seen since!

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I agree he's done nothing to try and get himself back into the picture and I haven't heard anything this year so far to suggest he's going to try.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

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Originally Posted by imp

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

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I read a while ago direll does not want a rematch. I dont get why ppl are so high on Direll, He lost against the cobra, quit and crumbled against MW Abraham and has not been seen since!

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I agree he's done nothing to try and get himself back into the picture and I haven't heard anything this year so far to suggest he's going to try.

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Take the test Andre:

http://www.livefight.com/images/page...sakio-bika.jpg

I'd have to watch the fight again I remember it being close but don't think i doubted that Froch would get the decision. I'm sure he was the aggressor and landed the better/harder shots.

Agreed that Dirrel has done nothing to deserve a rematch. Froch struggles against boxers and fighters who don't want to have a fight. That was shown against Taylor, he can be outboxed.

Froch doesn't have a lot of time left. I'm hoping to see Kessler, Ward and Bute rematches then retirement.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Dirrell is finished as an elite fighter. Abraham destroyed him and as a fighter he's a shadow of his past self.

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I agree, Dirrell was good until he reached the top fighters then he fell on his face. I don't know if it's mental or physical but he's out of the picture in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Dirrell is finished as an elite fighter. Abraham destroyed him and as a fighter he's a shadow of his past self.

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I'm not a big Dirrell fan, but I hope that isn't the case. Dirrell just needs to regroup and earn his way back into the title picture. People aren't going to rush to fight him because he has the potential to be dangerous. He needs to beat people like Stevenson, Tommy Gunn from South Africa, or Sakio Bika. Wins over that level of fighter would propel him to a big fight.

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Originally Posted by imp

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

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dirrell should have been DQed by round 6

you cant run to that extent and not face some sort of penalty

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Dirrell is finished as an elite fighter. Abraham destroyed him and as a fighter he's a shadow of his past self.

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I'm not a big Dirrell fan, but I hope that isn't the case. Dirrell just needs to regroup and earn his way back into the title picture. People aren't going to rush to fight him because he has the potential to be dangerous. He needs to beat people like Stevenson, Tommy Gunn from South Africa, or Sakio Bika. Wins over that level of fighter would propel him to a big fight.

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Oosthuizen would be interesting! A tall undefeated southpaw..

He would crumble vs. someone who could put the heat on like Bika! He couldn't handle the presure of Froch or MW AA. Direll would not fight Bika in a million years. I even think Bute would be a stylistic nightmare for Direll regardless of the Froch fight!

Talking of Bika...he is fighting undefeated Nikola Sjekloca for Andre Ward’s WBC world title next i believe!

It was originally scheduled as a WBC eliminator fight first - but now it's interim. It's also likely that Bute could the face Bika-Sjekloca winner for WBC 168 lb strap in the spring. Interesting times...

Ward may have to fight Bika again or maybe Bute!

Oh God please! No do not even consider making that fight again! It was all wrong.

Dirrell has done nothing for 2 years and has faded into obscurity, if he wants to get back into contention to fight the top super middles then he needs to become a LOT more active and work his way back up. I can't imagine a rematch would generate much interest anyway, yes it was close and debatable, but it was also completely shite to watch.

It wasnt the best fight to watch but it will be interesting to see how froch will fight differently for mr.ward.

These types of fighters give him problems. Hopefully he has learned from the two andre fights and will be dominate (press action early?) next time.

Direll should fight his brother and his best mate Ward first.

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Originally Posted by imp

Who cares about kessler..froch will beat him and would have beaten him the first time on neutral grounds.

Froch is alot better now but i still feel he lost to andre in there first bout.

Is mr hearn keeping froch away from the mini andre as this is too much of a risky fight?

I know andre dirrell is not thought upon that greatly but i would like to see this as a pre andre ward fight.

I like froch attitude and strong warrior type style but theres a certain style he has issues with and im looking forward to see if can ADAPT this time around.

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Seriously man, you want to see a Dirrell rematch over a Kessler rematch? The Kessler fight was awesome, the Dirrell fight was one of the worst fights I've ever seen. Unless you're attempting to cure insomnia, why would you want to put yourself through watching that again?

Tall rangy Southpaws like Bute or Oosthuizen would be interesting!

Pressure fighters seem to bring the best and worst out in direll! He's a bizarre fighter! Maybe Glen johnson wants another payday?

Ward will never happen! Bika is avoided to hell! Kessler would stop him late or it would end in a no contest! Groves may happen down the line somewhere! Stieglitz would be a good win for him and i think he would win! That leaves Magee, Pavlik or stevenson!

Having said that he will end up fighting none of them! Abraham seems to have put the fear of god into him...