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The champ would not quit despite being outgunned by the younger fighter. I knew Solido would keep fighting and eventually catch up with the younger fighter and get the younger fighter to quit.
I think the rematch should be similar, solido gets behind on the scorecard but eventually gets the k.o.
What a fight.
Garcia showed he has little heart. I'm embarrassed for him.
Solido didnt win.
He will learn from this defeat, but i think Solido takes him out in the rematch too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Just read a report on the fight and sounds like it was all Garcia. Will watch it later. What were the odds for a Garcia win?
Solido was out boxed, he was knocked down a few time's he looked old, Garcia did not show the
heart of a lion I totally agree, but he gave Solido a boxing lesson it a was a accidental head-but,
the outcome may not please all, but the rules are the rules.
Garcia totally out boxed Salido, and I feel a rematch Salido gets KO.;)
Looks like one of the TX judges has joined the forum. Welcome aboard.
I'm wondering who the fuck 'Solido' is, the guy who fought, got his ass kicked, and lost a decision by a wide margin, this past Saturday was named Salido.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You seem to have watch a totally different fight than we all did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI'm wondering who the fuck 'Solido' is, the guy who fought, got his ass kicked, and lost a decision by a wide margin, this past Saturday was named Salido.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Garcia is young, he can bounce back from this.
It's a sham that salido is willing to walk thru any kind of hell to win, loses his championship belt to a kid who quits on his stool cause he's having trouble breathing.
Well not everyone can be like Abrhams and fight with a broken jaw I suppose. Still at least people know he's not mentally tough. However will they be able to take advantage of that fact?
So is this some kind of joke? Seriously man i've come to expect this kind of childish, lame-ass shit from Rocco, who I keep on ignore most of the time. But for some reason I expected better from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainYou seem to have watch a totally different fight than we all did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI'm wondering who the fuck 'Solido' is, the guy who fought, got his ass kicked, and lost a decision by a wide margin, this past Saturday was named Salido.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Garcia is young, he can bounce back from this.
FYI, the ring Dr. stopped the fight, but even if Garcia had decided not to continue, I sure as hell don't blame him. Why continue fighting with a broken nose, caused by a headbutt, it would give your opponent an unfair advantage, in a fight you had totally dominated.
Its a shame to finally see that very same face first at all costs style finally catch up and have him look like a dominated and war torn fighter on his last legs to a young fighter who boxed his ears clean off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I was pissed as well that Garcia took the easy win, especially after Salido had gone to hell and back, enduring 4 knockdowns and never giving up.
However, there is a good chance that in his desperation and quest for revenge Salido did in fact intentionally headbutt Garcia.
I was rooting for Salido the whole time, screaming at the TV, but he was getting dominated for much of the fight and fighting foolishly.
There is no sense in being this bitter and pretending that it was Salido win.
It was a Garcia win, slightly cheapened by opting to go to the scorecards. You could tell afterwards Garcia felt a little bit guilty about taking the victory that way, but otherwise he looked like Doniare out there practically.
I wonder what people would have said if the intentional head butt had caused a gusher and ended the fight. Say it was not intentional? In either case the fight would have been stopped and they would have gone to the cards. Garcia could not breathe and breathing is kind of an integral part of the sport. I guess Israel Vazquez has no heart either because he retired on his stool with the same injury because he could not breathe in the first Marquez fight.
What's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Its ignorant and comical at the same time. A dangerous marriage. I actually thought it was some kind of inside joke at first because nobody could be that subjective. I sit corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axWhat's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I think it's even sillier than that, these clowns either bet money on Salido (spelled correctly) or predicted he would win, and now they're just pissed because Garcia won.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIts ignorant and comical at the same time. A dangerous marriage. I actually thought it was some kind of inside joke at first because nobody could be that subjective. I sit corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axWhat's most annoying is implying that Garcia is a "quitter" with no heart who just took the easy way out. These are the same type of idiots who criticized Cotto for taking a knee in his first fight against Margacheato. According to their "code of cojones", if you aren't willing to die in the ring, you're a fucking coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Come on people... Seriously.
For starters at NO point did Garcia say he didn't want to fight.
His corner initiated the 2nd look at the nose.
Garcia complained about having trouble breathing.
So you can't blame him.
For the sake of the thread let's say Garcia did flat out say he didn't want to continue.
He decked Salido 4 times in 4 rounds. Was outboxing him and making him look like an amateur. Landing at will and just beating him in every sense of the word.
Why would anyone risk moving forward in a fight you are clearly winning with a fucken broken nose and a disadvantage?
I take nothing from boxers who go thru those ropes. I think it was the right thing to do. I don't see anything different happening in rematch. Garcia should move on to bigger and better things.
LMFAO...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
To everyone bashing Garcia: you are COMPLETELY insane. Why should a guy have to fight after an illegal headbutt smashed his nose? If it was a legal punch and he quit on his stool, I'd agree. But both ring doctor's looked at it and told the ref the fight was over. What can you do?
Garcia looked sharp as a tack and gave Salido a hellacious beating for the majority of the fight. He deserved the win.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMickCome on people... Seriously.
For starters at NO point did Garcia say he didn't want to fight.
His corner initiated the 2nd look at the nose.
Garcia complained about having trouble breathing.
So you can't blame him.
For the sake of the thread let's say Garcia did flat out say he didn't want to continue.
He decked Salido 4 times in 4 rounds. Was outboxing him and making him look like an amateur. Landing at will and just beating him in every sense of the word.
Why would anyone risk moving forward in a fight you are clearly winning with a fucken broken nose and a disadvantage?
I take nothing from boxers who go thru those ropes. I think it was the right thing to do. I don't see anything different happening in rematch. Garcia should move on to bigger and better things.
LMFAO...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Good to see someone here has some sense...
The headbutt wasn't ruled illegal during the fight. Like I already said in another thread Israel Vazquez couldn't continue because he couldn't breathe in the first Marquez fight and the ref stopped it. Why should this fight be any different?
Garcia was amile ahead and it would have been unfair for him to lose due to a butt but tough fucking luck, shit happens. And it isn't sour grapes, I picked him to win and I thought he boxed really well. But the fact remains he quit.
Pussies...
A headbutt is ALWAYS illegal in a boxing ring. It was ruled unintentional, which means that if the doctor decides that the fighter shouldn't continue - which in this case, they did - the fight goes to the scorecards as opposed to Salido being DQ'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Toughness in a boxer is the ability to withstand and persevere through physical injury and pain in the hopes of winning the fight. A guy breaks his hand, he keeps punching with it. Has his eye cut up and swollen from punches, he keeps on fighting. Being tough is taking the steps necessary - no matter how difficult - to win the fight.
Taking unneccesary risks isn't tough. It's stupidity. Fighting on when you have absolutely no need to isn't tough, it's stupid. It's not like he tried to weasle his way out of a fight by faking an injury. It was legit, the doc's wanted to stop it and they did.
Shame on anyone who questions his courage because of that. Sometimes boxing fans are illogically needy.
It makes little difference whether it was ruled intentional or not as in many cases they have still gone to the cards or its ruled long after the infraction. Had it been ruled intentional Salido could have been dq'd. The facts are the facts Mr. Lang and I guess what I'm having trouble with most is the flagrant use of the term "quit"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Duran quit against Leonard. Robinson did not quit against Maxim, Greb did not quit against Kid Graves and Garcia did not quit against Salido.
I wonder how many people here have had their nose broken or had a break that high and then tried to do anything athletically strenuous let alone box? These are prize fights with careers on the line. Keep in mind that Garcias real career and drawing years have just begone as he had just out on a clinic. Not only could he not breathe properly but he would have ran the risk of further injury to the area which could have been career ending. Seriously this is boxing 101 shit. I'm going to back out of this thread now hands at my side because I still think this is a joke from the antagonists play book.
Yup, trolling 101, it would have been been better to have just ignored the thread, the tip off was the misspelling "Solido's" name. Fucking kids have to play their games don't they.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIt makes little difference whether it was ruled intentional or not as in many cases they have still gone to the cards or its ruled long after the infraction. Had it been ruled intentional Salido could have been dq'd. The facts are the facts Mr. Lang and I guess what I'm having trouble with most is the flagrant use of the term "quit"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Duran quit against Leonard. Robinson did not quit against Maxim, Greb did not quit against Kid Graves and Garcia did not quit against Salido.
I wonder how many people here have had their nose broken or had a break that high and then tried to do anything athletically strenuous let alone box? These are prize fights with careers on the line. Keep in mind that Garcias real career and drawing years have just begone as he had just out on a clinic. Not only could he not breathe properly but he would have ran the risk of further injury to the area which could have been career ending. Seriously this is boxing 101 shit. I'm going to back out of this thread now hands at my side because I still think this is a joke from the antagonists play book.
Salido is moving up weight too and intends to have another fight soon. He has moved on and does not need to fight Garcia.
Why are there arguements about Garcia being a quitter? This is far beyond Garcia. This is about Salido, the guy would not quit despite being drop several times. He kept coming and was actually catching Garcia big time before the doctors stop the fight due to the damage on Garcia.
Like I said, the rematch shouldn't be any different, Salido falls behind early but eventually the fight will be stopped.
I completely agree the ring doctor did stop the fight. You are right, Garcia is young, why continue fighting with a disadvantage like not being able to breath. Like they say, live to fight another day, I don't blame him for quitting with such a disadvantage. Hopefully in a rematch he can avenge this and actually keep the scorecard lead into a UD. Salido is a man possess, he'll keep coming. Garcia imo if he digs deep he can weather the storm and fighters like Salido will harden him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axSo is this some kind of joke? Seriously man i've come to expect this kind of childish, lame-ass shit from Rocco, who I keep on ignore most of the time. But for some reason I expected better from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainYou seem to have watch a totally different fight than we all did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI'm wondering who the fuck 'Solido' is, the guy who fought, got his ass kicked, and lost a decision by a wide margin, this past Saturday was named Salido.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Garcia is young, he can bounce back from this.
FYI, the ring Dr. stopped the fight, but even if Garcia had decided not to continue, I sure as hell don't blame him. Why continue fighting with a broken nose, caused by a headbutt, it would give your opponent an unfair advantage, in a fight you had totally dominated.
My God. This is so weak the punchline has even entered delusion.
intriguing enough for you to continue to read on? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You guys take everything so serious ;D
A fighter like Salido that would leave it all in the ring losing to a kid who quits on his stool cause of a broken nose. Garcia quit knowing that he was ahead on the cards and fearful and aware that the Salido was growing stronger and starting to connect while he was fading down the stretch... Garcia and his corner opt for the easy way out. No honour. Tarnished glory.
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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
You're trying to hard.
Clearly a fan of Garcia's... You like the easy way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
You're trying to hard.
Just a fan of common sense.
Garcia is not a quitter he made the sensible decision in a fight he was clearly winning. If he got beat he would have sacked all his team for being incompetent and not doing their job which is to look at the welfare of the fighter.