If Martinez thinks Frampton will run from him all night he is in for a rude awakening
Kiko Martinez believes he will stop Carl Frampton at the Odyssey - Boxing - Belfast Newsletter
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If Martinez thinks Frampton will run from him all night he is in for a rude awakening
Kiko Martinez believes he will stop Carl Frampton at the Odyssey - Boxing - Belfast Newsletter
Martinez
"I feel win by knockout, or they’ll stop the fight cause of the beating I’m going to give him, that’s how I see it in my mind,” said Martínez. “I don’t worry about the judges. This is a great country for boxing. It’s a serious title up for grabs and it’s not in Germany or France. They know about boxing here and the judges will be fair. I think Frampton will try to run, I think he’ll box and he won’t go toe-to-toe.
“But I know I’m a lot stronger than him. When I’m in the ring with him, he won’t want to fight with me. He knows it, his corner knows it and all of Ireland knows it.”
;D
There are very few boxers I will listen to about their own fights. It's usually a waste of time. Sometimes it's fun to hear all the BS and back and forth insults, but I usually don't listen at all or already have my mind made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
How about the rest of you?
Martinez got a bit overrated after banging out chinny Bernard Dunne. Powderpuff punching Munroe had him hurt a few times.
I reckon Frampton will be on his bike, it's obvious Martinez will just bull forward, but will get a late stoppage. It's Martinez that will get duffed up, his only chance is early doors
I take it this fight is on Sky?
This will tell us a bit more about Frampton who does not lack confidence , his chin is a bit high in the air for me , but lets see how he handles a good fighter in Martinez.
No one seems to be close to frampton, he goes in with the confidence of Tyson in that division.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedThere are very few boxers I will listen to about their own fights. It's usually a waste of time. Sometimes it's fun to hear all the BS and back and forth insults, but I usually don't listen at all or already have my mind made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
How about the rest of you?
I think frampton will go easily to world level before getting into the top ten p4p
QUOTE ME AS THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THIS.
Then marvel at my accuracy.
Frampton will beat him. Great prospect...
Great Prospect but Quigg will beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosNo one seems to be close to frampton, he goes in with the confidence of Tyson in that division.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedThere are very few boxers I will listen to about their own fights. It's usually a waste of time. Sometimes it's fun to hear all the BS and back and forth insults, but I usually don't listen at all or already have my mind made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
How about the rest of you?
I think frampton will go easily to world level before getting into the top ten p4p
QUOTE ME AS THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THIS.
Then marvel at my accuracy.
No need to quote me or marvel at my willy accuracy though
You're right Quigg has a chance at beating him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzGreat Prospect but Quigg will beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosNo one seems to be close to frampton, he goes in with the confidence of Tyson in that division.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedThere are very few boxers I will listen to about their own fights. It's usually a waste of time. Sometimes it's fun to hear all the BS and back and forth insults, but I usually don't listen at all or already have my mind made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
How about the rest of you?
I think frampton will go easily to world level before getting into the top ten p4p
QUOTE ME AS THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THIS.
Then marvel at my accuracy.
No need to quote me or marvel at my willy accuracy though
I mean if he continues to duck Frampton until he gets old enough, sooner or later one of them will die.
50/50 chance for Quigg.
Otherwise. Frampton win, 4th round tko.
Nearly kicked off at weigh-in
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LQ86BEuOZ4
why hasn't that embedded?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
In fairness Kiko looks proper ripped. Looks a bit bigger than Frampton, but I stick to my guns, Frampton will stop him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I like Frampton rounds 7-12 @ 3/1 doubled with Selby rounds 7-12 @ 7/2 (ladcrooks)
Frampton PTS @ 7/4 (saver)
3/1 is good odds considering. Probably stick a few on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I thought Frampton looked bigger but Kiko looked like he could smash through walls. Frampton will be under it early doors.
Yh, probably, I still think Frampton will stop him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
They're talking about Kiko's power but look at the stats.
Kiko's KO ratio : 66.33%
Carl's KO ratio : 66.67%
Speaks volumes.
Martinez has double carls fights though with 30.
I thinks it's cause your url is https. I've had the same issue before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fensterwhy hasn't that embedded?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoI thinks it's cause your url is https. I've had the same issue before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fensterwhy hasn't that embedded?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I agree with you regarding the fight outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosYh, probably, I still think Frampton will stop him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
They're talking about Kiko's power but look at the stats.
Kiko's KO ratio : 66.33%
Carl's KO ratio : 66.67%
Speaks volumes.
Martinez has double carls fights though with 30.
However,
Those stats are borderline useless. As you've addressed - Martinez has double the fights... plus fought a higher level of competition and they share no common opponent (I haven't checked that). Stats are a good guide to solving puzzles, especially where gambling is concerned, but can be virtually ignored when it comes to boxing.
Maybe when the stats are this close. But if its Kerry Hope vs Macklin, Barker or Murray then I think those stats tell it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI agree with you regarding the fight outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosYh, probably, I still think Frampton will stop him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
They're talking about Kiko's power but look at the stats.
Kiko's KO ratio : 66.33%
Carl's KO ratio : 66.67%
Speaks volumes.
Martinez has double carls fights though with 30.
However,
Those stats are borderline useless. As you've addressed - Martinez has double the fights... plus fought a higher level of competition and they share no common opponent (I haven't checked that). Stats are a good guide to solving puzzles, especially where gambling is concerned, but can be virtually ignored when it comes to boxing.
But I agree in this fight, it's useless, just my fascination with statistics. I blame Gary Lineker.
I'm fascinated with stats when it comes to lots of sports, especially Horse Racing and Snooker, but boxing stats are virtually pointless because fighters basically only ever meet once and comparable form is very sparse.
You match a fighter with a 100% KO ratio against one with 0%. They've never fought the same opposition. They share zero collateral form. How can we possibly be certain the fighter with a 100% KO record is the harder pucher? The 0% fighter could have fought a bunch of iron jaws, or simply mixed at a much higher level. That's boxing.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
You have opened my eyes to what may have been pretty obvious.
Deonty Wilder for instance. 27(27)-0-0 wouldn't stand a chance against Wlad imo, but I believe Povetkin with 25(17)-0-0 would.
Where as you look again at Kerry Hope, he beat Gzregorz Proksa on a decision, who is very heavy handed, but Hope has only 1 KO in his whole career. Then the rematch Proksa destroyed him.
Boxing is very unpredictable. Not only form, but what fighters do between fights. Training, lifestyle & personal matters come into it.
Read Frampton’s interview in Boxing News and he seems a funny and entertaining person.
Frampton to win in style, with in 6 rounds.;)
I can't warm to frampton ,but he is a good fighter, I just think mcguigan. Is seeing him from rosé tinted glasses , this fight will tell us more , I'm going for Martinez by ko
Andy Lee kicks off the undercard at 8 Pm. Frampton is a great prospect and while I think Quigg is patient and clever enough to beat him, Martinez will be a stern test but one that Carl can deal with. He is young, fast and heavy handed and the home crowd will help him dig deep.
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Good win for Frampton
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that is good to knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy