top 5 most powerful white punchers of all time, in terms of total power not p4p?

So what I mean is while Dempsy is p4p a much harder hitter than tommy morrison, its a bit doubtful that he had more total power than morrison because he was much lighter and didnt use steroids, so morrison gets ranked higher for this question and in terms of total power.


My guess is

1) Tommy

2) Rocky

3) Butterbean

4) Valuev (if he could land) or maybe wlad cant decide

5) Max Baer

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So what I mean is while Dempsy is p4p a much harder hitter than tommy morrison, its a bit doubtful that he had more total power than morrison because he was much lighter and didnt use steroids, so morrison gets ranked higher for this question and in terms of total power.


My guess is

1) Tommy

2) Rocky

3) Butterbean

4) Valuev (if he could land) or maybe wlad cant decide

5) Max Baer

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You are going to have to ask this question in a different way.

If you are saying punching power depends only on size, you're wrong.

If you were right, all we'd have to do is write down their weights to know who could hit harder.

This question, IMO, sucks.

I find this topic offensive.

go jerk yourself off

You could of phrased this many ways but you choose the most racist, you degrade us all by you comments please die

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I find this topic offensive.

go jerk yourself off

You could of phrased this many ways but you choose the most racist, you degrade us all by you comments please die

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Ha !

It is slightly racist but fuck off with your offensive victim card.

I think the OP is overrating Tommy Morrison a bit, but otherwise its not overtly racist or crossing the line.

I got nothing

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I find this topic offensive.

go jerk yourself off

You could of phrased this many ways but you choose the most racist, you degrade us all by you comments please die

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Ha !

It is slightly racist but fuck off with your offensive victim card.

I think the OP is overrating Tommy Morrison a bit, but otherwise its not overtly racist or crossing the line.

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It brands me as a racist, so I take offense, and yes he could of asked the same question without being so exclusive.

Bizarre question! Anyway the Rock, Dempsey and Wlad (in HW terms) to answer it.

I just love the fact that I clicked into a "TOP 5 OF ALL TIME" discussion thread and BUTTERBEAN was on the list! :biglaugh: I don't even know if Butterbean would be on a "Top 5 Fat Bald White Dudes Who Came From A Toughman Background Named After Food in Boxing History" list. Sweet Jesus.

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I just love the fact that I clicked into a "TOP 5 OF ALL TIME" discussion thread and BUTTERBEAN was on the list! :biglaugh: I don't even know if Butterbean would be on a "Top 5 Fat Bald White Dudes Who Came From A Toughman Background Named After Food in Boxing History" list. Sweet Jesus.

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Im guessing he's an alt pissed off at the post soviet and white european domination of the modern HW division, especially K2.

http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ship-belts.jpg

http://e1.365dm.com/12/05/504x378/Da...12_2773136.jpg

http://www.novinite.com/media/images...big_139118.jpg

I am amazed Tyson Fury hasnt been put on the list , his punch power is immense.

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I just love the fact that I clicked into a "TOP 5 OF ALL TIME" discussion thread and BUTTERBEAN was on the list! :biglaugh: I don't even know if Butterbean would be on a "Top 5 Fat Bald White Dudes Who Came From A Toughman Background Named After Food in Boxing History" list. Sweet Jesus.

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Im guessing he's an alt pissed off at the post soviet and white european domination of the modern HW division, especially K2.

http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ship-belts.jpg

http://e1.365dm.com/12/05/504x378/Da...12_2773136.jpg

http://www.novinite.com/media/images...big_139118.jpg

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No im a huge fan of "soviet" fighters and K2, great pics.

I wonder if David Price is up there power wise he does seem to have gained horrific power lately.

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I just love the fact that I clicked into a "TOP 5 OF ALL TIME" discussion thread and BUTTERBEAN was on the list! :biglaugh: I don't even know if Butterbean would be on a "Top 5 Fat Bald White Dudes Who Came From A Toughman Background Named After Food in Boxing History" list. Sweet Jesus.

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Im guessing he's an alt pissed off at the post soviet and white european domination of the modern HW division, especially K2.

http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ship-belts.jpg

http://e1.365dm.com/12/05/504x378/Da...12_2773136.jpg

http://www.novinite.com/media/images...big_139118.jpg

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No im a huge fan of "soviet" fighters and K2, great pics.

I wonder if David Price is up there power wise he does seem to have gained horrific power lately.

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I can't take u seriously u listed Butterbean. Are u trolling?

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I just love the fact that I clicked into a "TOP 5 OF ALL TIME" discussion thread and BUTTERBEAN was on the list! :biglaugh: I don't even know if Butterbean would be on a "Top 5 Fat Bald White Dudes Who Came From A Toughman Background Named After Food in Boxing History" list. Sweet Jesus.

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Im guessing he's an alt pissed off at the post soviet and white european domination of the modern HW division, especially K2.

http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ship-belts.jpg

http://e1.365dm.com/12/05/504x378/Da...12_2773136.jpg

http://www.novinite.com/media/images...big_139118.jpg

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No im a huge fan of "soviet" fighters and K2, great pics.

I wonder if David Price is up there power wise he does seem to have gained horrific power lately.

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I can't take u seriously u listed Butterbean. Are u trolling?

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LOL Someones trolling, Butterbean is damn fast for someone that weighs like 600lbs, its simple physics for why he can punch extremely hard, I know he looks out of place amongst some of the all time greats lmao

Butterbean LOL.

how is this racist ? lol . Anyways, the Klitschko's , Morrison, Marciano. Fury and Price may once be in this category , if they prove themselves. Helenius has huge power, but rarely lands

Morrison had crazy power in his left hook.

Wladiqueer has probably a top 3 jab ever in terms of pure power

Wladimir Klitschko
Marciano
Jeffries
Dempsey
Max Baer

Others like Vladimir Virchis could actually punch harder than any of those, but lacked other boxing skills.

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I am amazed Tyson Fury hasnt been put on the list , his punch power is immense.

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Lol.

This thread is not racist.

Its interesting to see who the hardest hitting white boys were.

Tommy morrison left hook must be on the list somewhere and perhaps we can build a case for pavlik as he was the last white great american hope.

Wilde
Fitzy
Ledoux Charles
Cooney
Otto
Stribling

I'm fucken confused and can't get past the 1st sentence. :-\

So when you say white you mean skin color? Wether it's European, Latin America or whatever other ethnic group is out there)
But based on weight and not KO ratio?

I need a nap. :(

Here's a shot in the dark Botha? :confused:

Reminds of the thread @CFH did a while back it was something like:
Who's the best southpaw who fought as an orthodox that punished his opponent thru 6 rounds only to lose the next 6 rounds and be crowned new champion? :hypnotized:

I seem to be unable to find the clip of Charlie Z being ko'd by his heavybag in his studio apartment :mad:

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Wilde
Fitzy
Ledoux Charles
Cooney
Otto
Stribling

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Yes... I was going to mention Gerry Cooney.

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I'm fucken confused and can't get past the 1st sentence. :-\

So when you say white you mean skin color? Wether it's European, Latin America or whatever other ethnic group is out there)
But based on weight and not KO ratio?

I need a nap. :(

Here's a shot in the dark Botha? :confused:

Reminds of the thread @CFH did a while back it was something like:
Who's the best southpaw who fought as an orthodox that punished his opponent thru 6 rounds only to lose the next 6 rounds and be crowned new champion? :hypnotized:

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It was a good topic, you morons just exist on a lower intellectual level :p.

I can't even remember what it was about to be honest, now I'm curious.

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Bizarre question! Anyway the Rock, Dempsey and Wlad (in HW terms) to answer it.

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piss off you stupid cocksucker of a twit-brain little munchkin. haha just kdding mate--you got 2 out of 3 right anyways. :)

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So what I mean is while Dempsy is p4p a much harder hitter than tommy morrison, its a bit doubtful that he had more total power than morrison because he was much lighter and didnt use steroids, so morrison gets ranked higher for this question and in terms of total power.


My guess is

1) Tommy

2) Rocky

3) Butterbean

4) Valuev (if he could land) or maybe wlad cant decide

5) Max Baer

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So harder hitter does not = more total power +minus - being lighter and subtract again for no steroids and must be a white puncher. Weird equation :confused:


George foreman and Earnie Shavers punched a few white people so technically they were white punchers but apparently they don't figure in this equation.

Um Price is potentially on his way up there to the blackboard...sorry non white board

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K3Bse1-FSg

Ignoring total power and skin colour and taking into consideration relative weight the equation is much simpler

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-punchers.html

Julian the hawk Jackson End of story

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He was black

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He was black

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And a lesbian.

Stribling fought about 40 times one year and won all but a couple by knockout. He was not a big heavyweight but set the record for the division fighting close to 60 fights in one year. In close to 300 fights he compiled just under 130 knockouts and only lost about 12 times, one time only stopped on a tko against Schmeling in the final round.

Otto had at least 42 first round knockouts and as many as 50 depending on the source. He held the first in a row ko record until Valero broke it.

Still one man stands out even amongst these two and all of those that came before and after him if the p4p equation is honestly applied. Even if its not it makes little difference. A toothpick of a man really.

Jimmy Wilde is the biggest p4p(or any other scale) puncher in the history of the sport and it’s not even close. Regardless of skin tone.

may i throw in Matthew Hilton he had one hell of a dig.

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sorry guys ive been on the beer :(

I think Price will be on this list ultimately too. VK and Maskaev are 2 more! Problem is there have been so many soviet Hw's that had serious power and would have impacted had they turned pro! HW pro-boxing has basically been a western (mainly anglo-american) sport throughout the 20th century and has mainly been fed it's exponents by the under-classes of society (those being black & irish but mainly black) so there have not been many great white HW's comparitably speaking. Black ppl have really had to fight (both physically and metaphorically) to get ahead in society and boxing was one way of doing it. You see the same thing happening now with the poor eastern european countries...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbr6bXgTm0Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQeqquW1ugo

Kostya Tszyu