Speed cameras A deterrent or a cash cow?

I take it your countries are same?

Here in Oz ,they (Our government are filling us with ad's saying cameras drop fatalities by 33% or something.

I dont believe a word from these lying pricks.

Never have I seen a camera at a site where a fatality once occurred, I see flowers on telegraph poles no cameras.

I only see them immediately after a speed change sign or hanging off the under side of bridges on freeways where accidents are maybe once in 10 years and usually happen inside tunnels not out on the open roads.

Now they have red light cameras that are also speed cameras so if you go through on amber and boot it to clear the intersection (for safety) they will fine you.

Fuckwits even have Bill boards that read "slowing down wont kill you"

I do get their point but if you think outside of their little square, slowing down too fast is exactly what kills you.

My bet is that if we all went at the speed limits the would be out of cash and would drop the limits again to start to revenue up once more.

Oh and the sly bastards have stated that its too hard to identify motor cycles with only a rego plate on the back and they say police want them both ends now so its easier to see specailly at night blah blah blah.

Ive noticed that the speed cameras on overhead bridges on freeways only point the way you are comming from (they cant catch bikes cause the numbers on the back ) :ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp :fyou::bobby:

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I can see the need in residential areas and near schools, but otherwise they are quite daft. A speed camera on the highway breaks the flow and everyone is concentrating on their navigation system. I think in that situation safety is irrelevant, cameras increase the potential for carnage at high speeds.

North Wales Police, are a pain in the ass they have a mobile speed camera, in a horse box trailer
I kid you not hiding behind hedges.No welcome in the hillside, if your a Motorist or Motor cyclist
coming to this part of Wales.:mad:

Cash cow no doubt. They are literally all over the place down here but as of last year they are on the way out. They were ruled unconstitutional then it was overturned and once again ruled so. They are actually talking about a Judge ordering refunds for those fined!!

I think they cause more danger then cure. We've had more than a few sudden brakings and rear end collisions as well as people spending more time looking up for 6,7 cameras and hitting objects and pedestrians. A big part of it was the number of photos and the rights of passengers etc. Its all a money grab. They pisser is you have no grounds to dispute or even talk to an officer or City official. They mailed a picture and a due date...that was IT! You called City Hall or court house and its a recording!! I'll be looking for my $150 in the mail....fuckers :rolleyes:

cash cow no doubt

I dont mind ones on motorways or odd one on wide roads that are 30mph etc...

But the ones on roads where the speed limit continually changes 30-40-30 etc.. every few hundred yards really fuck me off. The cameras are right after the speed changes too. Don't tel me they are there for fucking safety reasons.

Coincidentally I been caught out twice by one of these twats where it drops to 30 :mad: One was at 2am too. Cunts :mad:

A few years ago we had a lot of them in urban areas but when citizens started bringing them up at city/county meetings it became clear it was not meant as a deterrent but rather a means to raise revenue. Compound that with people realizing that the "ticket" was not an actual court ordered fine and could be ignored the legal challenges pretty much finished it off. Thankfully we aren't so much a fascist nation that we couldn't throw off this big brother racket.

Trouble is with a speeding fine over here, comes 3 points if you accumulate 12 point in a 3 year period
you are banned off the road, depending on the of offense you may have to retake your driving test.
You may have to pass a advance driving test, to get back on the road.:eek:

Yeah we got the points off thing too. Around schools times in school zones its 40 kilometers or about 15 mph now thats a good thing.

Cops should sit there all morning and make certain but they dont, they are at the front of the freeway getting dudes doing 110 instead of 100.

Meanwhile the odd chick in a big four wheel drive blasts through the school crossing zone looking at herself in the mirror and gets away with it.

Im all for spraying the lenses and writing warning signs. Ive put signs up the bend before the cops once, years ago, time to start again :-\.

100% there to make money.

Just like adding tax to alcohol is supposed to act as a deterrent. Blatant lies.

There are 3 relatively new things on the road that annoy me. Speed camera I have come to accept and avoid, these annoy the fuckwich out of me:

Average Speed Cameras
They clock your number plate using one of many cameras, then once you have left the final camera, they average your speed and fine you if it was over the limit. This means people crawling along perfectly good straights on dual carriage ways.

Bus Lane Cameras
If you should stray into a bus lane, even if its empty, is safe to do so and follows the natural racing line to where you want to go. Bam! Fine in the post. Even if you are helping to cause a jam in the lane you are, exiting into the empty stretch of road (which if everyone could do it there wouldn't be half as much traffic) you still get fined. It's not as if buses are hard to spot before you nip in the lane quickly to get to a junction shortly up the road.

Camera Cars
These little fuckers drive around with a camera on top. They scan and snap and catch loads of people. Bus bays, yellows etc. all without stoping. Drive and snap! Bastards!

Ones like this
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/imag...62/3441240.png

I think a five foot piece of pipe swung would remove that camera clean off that car. Or spray paint the lenses :-\.

We havent got them here yet.

Years ago I read an article about them in the LA Times, the red-light cameras. They started out putting them at intersections that had either a lot of crashes due to people running red lights, tickets, or complaints. Now, the company that monitors these cameras charges a pretty substantial fee, and the fee went up as the city added more cameras.
But, at first, they were giving out a lot of tickets so it was a profitable venture. And they worked- fewer crashes, fewer people running red lights, which meant fewer tickets being given out. But the monitoring fee remained the same, so it was now a losing proposition.
So the city started shortening the length of the amber light...thus encouraging people to run red lights, thereby increasing the likelihood of crashes and smashed pedestrians. All to generate more revenue.

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Originally Posted by greynotsoold

Years ago I read an article about them in the LA Times, the red-light cameras. They started out putting them at intersections that had either a lot of crashes due to people running red lights, tickets, or complaints. Now, the company that monitors these cameras charges a pretty substantial fee, and the fee went up as the city added more cameras.
But, at first, they were giving out a lot of tickets so it was a profitable venture. And they worked- fewer crashes, fewer people running red lights, which meant fewer tickets being given out. But the monitoring fee remained the same, so it was now a losing proposition.
So the city started shortening the length of the amber light...thus encouraging people to run red lights, thereby increasing the likelihood of crashes and smashed pedestrians. All to generate more revenue.

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Assholes,pack of rotten assholes! :mad:

A complete cash earner. There is no doubt about that as they can also cut their police numbers because there are so many cameras everywhere. Some people argue that cameras make the roads more dangerous as there is lots of sudden braking when motorists notice them.

I've heard that Australia is fast becomeing the ultimate health and safety nanny state?

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A complete cash earner. There is no doubt about that as they can also cut their police numbers because there are so many cameras everywhere. Some people argue that cameras make the roads more dangerous as there is lots of sudden braking when motorists notice them.

I've heard that Australia is fast becomeing the ultimate health and safety nanny state?

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Yeah, well we are in a right state and our PM Julia Guillard looks like a nanny.
So- Nanny state.;)

99% of what the government do is aimed at making money.

With the speed cameras it's the same but if the cameras are visible I can put up with them, it's annoying having to slow down but at least i don't feel fucked over, if i see the camera and still dont slow down it's my fault if i get points. It's when the bastards are hiding off country lanes and sitting out of view on bridges that pisses me off.

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99% of what the government do is aimed at making money.

With the speed cameras it's the same but if the cameras are visible I can put up with them, it's annoying having to slow down but at least i don't feel fucked over, if i see the camera and still dont slow down it's my fault if i get points. It's when the bastards are hiding off country lanes and sitting out of view on bridges that pisses me off.

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With their camera with one mile lenses, so you have no fucking chance!

oh man, I got a find, 282 AUSD, Speed camra went 119 on a 100 road, it's not even speeding in my opinion, you have to speed up a little when you're passing someone. and 19 kms is nothing, But something even more annoying is all the shitty toll i have to paid. prolly paid 500 dollars only for toll road, 16-30 dollars every invoice....

It's a total rip off.

It is bullshit and it makes me wonder why on earth we let governments encrouch our lives in such a way. Where was the public debate? There is never a referendum on anything important. They will never let you voice your views on the monarchy, speed cameras or the sheer nonsense of legal versus illegal drugs classifications.

"But my dear boy, you know, you do vote us in so that you can get to work in your wonderful pursuit of earning money to spend in the consumer, pardon, I mean the wonderful fertile garden of the democratic economy. I hope you don't think I look down upon you and don't think you incapable, but it is perfectly true that you are incapable and that I don't think that you look down in the least. Not on my Aunt Nellie, young voter you. You let me do my job and for sure your taxes will pay for things you don't want and your driving fines. And yes I'm fine, how about you? Jolly good, yes? I thought so. Now be on your way! There's a good voter. Be careful home, you wouldn't want to get a fine. I am too! Tally ho!"