Riddles part. 2

Got two new riddles for you guys...

Ike Williams by chinchekked
A) My manager wasn't the nicest of guys. If you even dared blink he'd take your money. Going thru the list of my opponents is endless and the guys I beat forget it I have the who's who of that era. I picked up my first major title from one of Mexicos finest at that time. In between my title defenses I lost and won a few non-title bouts but that meant nothing back then. I beat the likes of a durango puncher, a cat and as bad as it sounds a child. Some of my fights were fixed but I had no choice. What wasn't fixed was the onslaught I laid on a dandy the first time we met.
Hint1: I became champ in '45 but became undisputed in '47.
Who Am I?


Lennox Lewis by palmerq
B) From the start I was destined for great things. I medaled but not for my birth country. I did things the right way and fought to the top. I beat a French man for my first title. My first big test was against a comeback kid but I took his 0. Not even one of the strongest men could stop me I was on a roll. When I won my first world title I did it because I knew how to detonate him. But I was quickly bucked off my title. It's okay I got it back and kept it for 3 yrs.

Who Am I?

Too hard. - Esteban DeJesus

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Originally Posted by Master

Too hard. - Esteban DeJesus

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@Master which one are you guessing at mate? A or B?

Nonetheless it is not Esteban.

is b lennox lewis ?

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Originally Posted by palmerq

is b lennox lewis ?

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@palmerq well done fella...

How did you get Lennox?

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Originally Posted by palmerq

is b lennox lewis ?

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@palmerq well done fella...

How did you get Lennox?

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this time i actually knew stuff ! well lennox won gold for canada even though he is english and bucked off the title made me think of a bull... an atomic bull aka oliver mccall... so went to boxrec to investigate the lewis guess... first title was a euro belt v a french man.. then world title was tony tucker nickmae tnt(so detonate)... not sure about teh comeback guy though

Blah got here too late on the 2nd one, the big clue was not winning a gold medal for his birth country im guessing Palmer would of got it from that ?

As for the 1st one no idea at moment i'll have another look later on, when maybe you give out some clues because i definately need em.

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Originally Posted by palmerq

is b lennox lewis ?

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@palmerq well done fella...

How did you get Lennox?

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this time i actually knew stuff ! well lennox won gold for canada even though he is english and bucked off the title made me think of a bull... an atomic bull aka oliver mccall... so went to boxrec to investigate the lewis guess... first title was a euro belt v a french man.. then world title was tony tucker nickmae tnt(so detonate)... not sure about teh comeback guy though

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@palmerq spot on fella with all those...

The comeback kid was Gary Mason who was was undefeated at the time and a big deal.
Not even one of the strongest men could beat me = Mike Weaver aka. Hercules (Greek myth god known for his strength)

Looking at 1 again i spotted "Kid" are we talking about the 40's 50's here ?

I have no idea who it is but i was thinking the clue Kid means Kid Azteca ? and Mexico's finest meaning Manuel Ortiz ?

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Looking at 1 again i spotted "Kid" are we talking about the 40's 50's here ?

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@ICB Yes the fighter is from that era...

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I have no idea who it is but i was thinking the clue Kid means Kid Azteca ? and Mexico's finest meaning Manuel Ortiz ?

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No the clue is not about Kid Azteca.
No the clue is not about Manuel Ortiz.

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Too hard. - Esteban DeJesus

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@Master which one are you guessing at mate? A or B?

Nonetheless it is not Esteban.

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So I was wrong. :p

I believe that the first one is Ike Williams, not sure though.

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I believe that the first one is Ike Williams, not sure though.

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@chinchekked well done fella...

How did you come up with Ike Williams?

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I believe that the first one is Ike Williams, not sure though.

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@chinchekked well done fella...

How did you come up with Ike Williams?

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The corrupt boxing manager clue and the fact that he threw fight and didnt have a choice got me going in the right direction. I remember reading something about how he had testified before congress, and then I looked up who he won his first world title from and that gave me enough confidence to make that guess. These are great by the way. I was clueless with the previous one you posted. Keep them coming.

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Originally Posted by chinchekked

I believe that the first one is Ike Williams, not sure though.

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@chinchekked well done fella...

How did you come up with Ike Williams?

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The corrupt boxing manager clue and the fact that he threw fight and didnt have a choice got me going in the right direction. I remember reading something about how he had testified before congress, and then I looked up who he won his first world title from and that gave me enough confidence to make that guess. These are great by the way. I was clueless with the previous one you posted. Keep them coming.

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@chinchekked spot on...

If you even dared blinnk he'd take your money = Ikes manager was "Blinky" Palermo was a mobster and a corrupt guy known to spend fighters money.
Going thru the list of opponents and guys I beat is endless = 150+ fights
First major title from one of Mexicos finest = Won the NBA Lightweight title when he defeated Juan Zurita
Durango Puncher = Enrique Bolanos nickname
a cat = Bob Mongtomerys nickname was Bobcat
a child = Kid Gavilan
What wasn't fixed was the onslaught I laid on a dandy = In his first fight vs. Beau Jack he throws 45+ unanswered shots until the referee finally jumps in (The worst LATE stoppage ever in my opinion)
dandy = Beau