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Before the douglas fight? He looked sluggish diving in.
It was a sweet shot, as they say the begin of the end!;)
Never seen that before. Great find mate
Thanks mate. I had seen him on the deck AFTER the punch, but I also had never seen the footwork and the punches right up to the punch that put him down. It was a cracking right hand lead by Greg Page. wasnt it sweet, right on the button and Tyson kinda just slumped down without a sound. Odd kind of moment there, that silence and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I have seen that knockdown just not the whole segment. Tyson was in poor condition , he team were in shambles and Douglas was inspired. Wished I put all my money on Douglas winning that fight.
Never realized he was cut as well as dropped off a right. Nice.
Have to love the slow mo dramatic theme music they put in as King sits there all alone ;D
That's not Greg Page. That's Oliver McCall!
No its Greg Page you can tell by the footwork, Greg Page was a poor man's Muhammad Ali. There's footage of Oliver McCall sparring Mike Tyson and McCall walked out of the ring complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Greg Page had the tools to be a very good fighter, but he was too lazy and his prime was very short. He went from being one of the best Heavyweight prospects, to a journeyman who got stopped twice by someone like Mark Willis, talk about a fall from grace.
When it happened, it wasn't hushed up and every fight fan saw it. As Larry Merchant said, guys get knocked down in sparring all the time. Don't read too much into it. It was unusual just because it was Tyson and he had the aura of invincibility at the time. Considered pound-for-pound #1 at the time.
wow, did they actually stop the sparring afterwards?
Just shows what happens when you spar thinking you have something to prove.
I feel bad for Greg Page. He was in a horrible car crash that ruined his life and I believe he passed away recently.
Sad he is mostly remembered for dropping Mike Tyson in sparring. That seems to be his legacy. He seemed like a nice man from the piece I saw on him after his accident.
Really? This was all over the news and papers when it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard about it.
One of those moments you never forget, and I was only 5.
true i remember it was on the news. All I remember tho was the sequence where Tyson is falling but it seems they never showed the whole 10 second clip leading up to the punch and the knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosReally? This was all over the news and papers when it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard about it.
One of those moments you never forget, and I was only 5.
The sparring knockdown against Greg Page was widely shown, but I don't remember seeing the cut, perhaps that part wasn't aired? But I have a little bit of brain-damage too though...
Even Berbick gave Tyson trouble in sparring for the Douglas fight.
And people claim that Tyson was in his prime and in peak form.
If 23 year old Mike Tyson wasn't in shape, then he wouldn't have lasted 10 rds with a 6'4" 231 lb man landing devastating straight rights on him all night long.
Folks should just get over making excuses for Mike Tyson's 1st loss...
That Tyson was not the same fighter that destroyed Berbick, Spinks, Biggs and others. There was very little head movement and his team were crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Yes they only showed the clip not the full segment. Tyson and his team had their head in cuckoo land and they were all disorganised, not taking it seriously and thought they had the fight in the bag. Thieving gits nearly stole the victory from Buster.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbusttrue i remember it was on the news. All I remember tho was the sequence where Tyson is falling but it seems they never showed the whole 10 second clip leading up to the punch and the knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosReally? This was all over the news and papers when it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard about it.
One of those moments you never forget, and I was only 5.
Yeah, Buster did in fact get a long count when he was knocked down. The ref is supposed to look to the timekeeper to pick up the count, but Ref Octavio Meyran started his own count instead. Behind Mehran, you can see the timekeeper's white-gloved fingers at 3 when Mehran says "one."
Tyson a day or so after the fight:
"I knocked him out before he knocked me out." - Mike Tyson.
When Buster went down, he punches the canvas in frustration knowing he made a mistake and got caught. He watched the ref, taking full advantage of the count and got up at 9. Could Buster have gotten up when Mehran was at 6 or 7 as that was the real count?
Too bad they never rematched. It's a classic fight. One for the ages.
:cool: we're members of the same club.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
True, to add to it he had never tasted his own medicine either, no one was ever awake to try and serve it back till then.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat Tyson was not the same fighter that destroyed Berbick, Spinks, Biggs and others. There was very little head movement and his team were crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Excuses, excuses.
The very nature of the sport means fighters going into a fight always have an injury or they're sick or there's a family problem or some other problem.
When they win while sick or injured, it doesn't seem to be a factor, but if they lose, people start with the excuses.
When the PRIME Mike Tyson knocked trevor berbick's brains out to claim his 1st title, Tyson was p!$$ing fire from The Clap which he picked up from some hoor somewhere. Didn't impact Tyson's performance nor preparation not one f*<kin' bit!
It doesn't matter.
For the Buster fight, Tyson was almost 24 years old, had been boxing since 12 years old, and knew the realities better than any fan of not coming in prepared. He knew his responsibilities as a fighter, and if you don't prepare, it's your @$$. People thought Tyson was invincible, but the man himself always knew better and knew he was just a man, and his own fears were inside since he was a kid, knowing these guys could tear him apart if he weren't prepared. He was ready for Douglas, you can bank on that.
If anything, it was Buster who had been sick, taking antihistamine medication for bronchitis.
I'm trying to decide if its more respectable and understandable that a Tyson like fighter fell off suddenly because they had one hard give and take war too many, he didn't, or that he just stopped trying and ran out of Tyrell biggs and Tony tubbs to smack around ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat Tyson was not the same fighter that destroyed Berbick, Spinks, Biggs and others. There was very little head movement and his team were crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Watching some ESPN Classic of Tyson and there were many decent fighters that gave it a go, Tillis and Ferguson certainly were not intimidated. Buster probably was the best fighter he fought on that particular night he was exceptional, shame he never performed like that again. However Tyson nearly beat him but at his best I think he would have beaten Douglas convincingly.
The ref counted no faster for Tyson, i remember someone done a comparison video comparing the counts for both Douglas and Tyson. And they were exactly the same speed, i don't think Douglas was that hurt as you said he punched the ground more in anger rather than being dazed or hurt. And considering in the next round Douglas battered Tyson i don't think he was that hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Here's the video i just found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcbFUTIslI
Mitch Blood Green wasn't scared. He was trading.
Yes there were many that did and still got beat, so the myth that Douglas was the first to stand up to him and won is just that a myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Yup. Jacco stood up to him. Didn't get him very far, but he stood up for what it was worth. lololol....Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes there were many that did and still got beat, so the myth that Douglas was the first to stand up to him and won is just that a myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
He was way above fighting weight and took a crash diet to lose itQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
He came out lethargic and didn't seem to be focused ... he definitely wasn't in shape because he didn't lose the weight the proper way. But his heart and chin are what kept him up.
he had gone to an All You Can Eat SUshi Joint in Tokyo and went home with 4 waitresses---Givens was pissedQuote:
Originally Posted by TysonBombHe was way above fighting weight and took a crash diet to lose itQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
He came out lethargic and didn't seem to be focused ... he definitely wasn't in shape because he didn't lose the weight the proper way. But his heart and chin are what kept him up.
They also said he was being treated for a sex disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbusthe had gone to an All You Can Eat SUshi Joint in Tokyo and went home with 4 waitresses---Givens was pissedQuote:
Originally Posted by TysonBombHe was way above fighting weight and took a crash diet to lose itQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
He came out lethargic and didn't seem to be focused ... he definitely wasn't in shape because he didn't lose the weight the proper way. But his heart and chin are what kept him up.
just for the record, even THAT tyson would beat the shit out of any version of wladiqueer
i like that Vladiqueer, thats good :)