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... I'm talking about another stoppage for Bute. Probably by the 9th or 10th round. Bute can't handle a REAL live fighter in his prime. He can't.
Sure, he can beat old fighters, or fighters who have dodgy confidence issues, but he can't beat a live, hungry fighter- as is Pascal.
Pascal punishes him. Probably worse than the Froch beating!!!
:mad:
Enjoy your erection
One guy's a poor man's Roy Jones, without the freakish speed and phenomenal athleticism necessary to successfully pull off Roy's unconventional style against world-class opposition. Pascal's quite 1-dimensional as well.
The other guy's multi-dimensional and a smarter, better-schooled fighter with much more tools in his arsenal.
Bute by liver shot KO inside 8 rds.
True. But that multi-dimensional fighter doesn't seem to take a punch to well. 50-50 fightQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Think bute is damaged goods after froch smashed him but at the same time I don't really rate pascal always looks like he has stamina issues so I agree 50/50 fight.but if ether then want to step up it up to ward,froch or Kessler they will be well beat.
I think Bute reached it with the Froch fight. We don't expect him to beat anyone on the level with or slightly above Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
His best effort is if he wins, then takes a fight against Ward- who knows, may as well, cuz it ain't like Ward has anyone out there left to fight cuz he beat em all- and then go on a world tour fighting tin cans and talk about how BLOODY GOOD you were!
;D
I dont really like commenting on fights i havent watched but judging by the scorecards Froch beat Pascal very easy. This fight is at light heavy, his chin could be better with extra weight. I also think Pascal is a bit past it. I think this is a pickem fight. At light heavy there is a good few fights for him. Id say Cleverly would love to fight him. Hopkins might fight him and id say Dawson would fight him too. Plenty of chances to rebuild his career. im looking forward to this one, mainly cz its on after Froch Kessler so will be a good sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI think Bute reached it with the Froch fight. We don't expect him to beat anyone on the level with or slightly above Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
His best effort is if he wins, then takes a fight against Ward- who knows, may as well, cuz it ain't like Ward has anyone out there left to fight cuz he beat em all- and then go on a world tour fighting tin cans and talk about how BLOODY GOOD you were!
;D
Yeah go watch the fight first. Fight took place in Froch's backyard. The fight was way closer than the bullshit cards saidQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI dont really like commenting on fights i havent watched but judging by the scorecards Froch beat Pascal very easy. This fight is at light heavy, his chin could be better with extra weight. I also think Pascal is a bit past it. I think this is a pickem fight. At light heavy there is a good few fights for him. Id say Cleverly would love to fight him. Hopkins might fight him and id say Dawson would fight him too. Plenty of chances to rebuild his career. im looking forward to this one, mainly cz its on after Froch Kessler so will be a good sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI think Bute reached it with the Froch fight. We don't expect him to beat anyone on the level with or slightly above Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
His best effort is if he wins, then takes a fight against Ward- who knows, may as well, cuz it ain't like Ward has anyone out there left to fight cuz he beat em all- and then go on a world tour fighting tin cans and talk about how BLOODY GOOD you were!
;D
Was a cracking fight between pascal and froch but yeah it was close as
froch won the last 5 rounds against Pascal as i remember and it was pretty even before thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYeah go watch the fight first. Fight took place in Froch's backyard. The fight was way closer than the bullshit cards saidQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI dont really like commenting on fights i havent watched but judging by the scorecards Froch beat Pascal very easy. This fight is at light heavy, his chin could be better with extra weight. I also think Pascal is a bit past it. I think this is a pickem fight. At light heavy there is a good few fights for him. Id say Cleverly would love to fight him. Hopkins might fight him and id say Dawson would fight him too. Plenty of chances to rebuild his career. im looking forward to this one, mainly cz its on after Froch Kessler so will be a good sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI think Bute reached it with the Froch fight. We don't expect him to beat anyone on the level with or slightly above Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
His best effort is if he wins, then takes a fight against Ward- who knows, may as well, cuz it ain't like Ward has anyone out there left to fight cuz he beat em all- and then go on a world tour fighting tin cans and talk about how BLOODY GOOD you were!
;D
I dunno what the scores were but if there was a 5 round gap then i agree
it was close tho and even at the end when froch was on top and winning the rounds pascal was right in there
i side with pascal against bute
Very true. I thought Froch won but it was very close. I agree with the thread starter in that I think Pascal takes it via late stoppage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYeah go watch the fight first. Fight took place in Froch's backyard. The fight was way closer than the bullshit cards saidQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI dont really like commenting on fights i havent watched but judging by the scorecards Froch beat Pascal very easy. This fight is at light heavy, his chin could be better with extra weight. I also think Pascal is a bit past it. I think this is a pickem fight. At light heavy there is a good few fights for him. Id say Cleverly would love to fight him. Hopkins might fight him and id say Dawson would fight him too. Plenty of chances to rebuild his career. im looking forward to this one, mainly cz its on after Froch Kessler so will be a good sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI think Bute reached it with the Froch fight. We don't expect him to beat anyone on the level with or slightly above Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
His best effort is if he wins, then takes a fight against Ward- who knows, may as well, cuz it ain't like Ward has anyone out there left to fight cuz he beat em all- and then go on a world tour fighting tin cans and talk about how BLOODY GOOD you were!
;D
This is a corker of a fight. In terms of big even-$ fights this year, Bute-Pascal is up there with all of them - Donaire-Rigo, Kessler-Froch II, and Canelo-Trout. If we are talking about boxing ability, I tend to side with Bute. He can be a master boxer when's he on. The problem is it's hard to get over his performance in the Froch fight.
In his next fight he also somewhat struggled with what appeared to be a limited Grachev. Grachev gave him a rough go of it. However, he went on to upset Erdei in his next fight, and he has knocked out Sillakh, which makes me think that he's a tougher than advertised. In the last few rounds, Bute was beating him up, something that Erdei couldn't do. Could it be that Bute found his pre-Froch form in those last few rounds?
The Froch ordeal took Butes soul. The Bell centre will be rocking but decidedly a Pascal house. That alone could win the fight for Pascal. Pascal is going to jump right on him like a group of Ravens on road kill. He cant risk loosing a shoulder. Having said that the uppercut is probably the best punch against Pascal and Bute has a monster uppercut especially when a guy is walking in and he gets extension. I hate watching two favourites fight each other.
Yea it was a pretty solid fight. The ref was WAY to involved for my liking. He broke the action of the fight tremendously.... it could have been an all-time classic if the ref had stayed the fuck out of the fight!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
That and for the fact that Pascal was causing the clenches more than Froch...in fact, that head bending and clenching caused him to look sloppy and for him to lose more of the rounds than he shouldn't have.
The scores are a bit misleading to how close the fight really was. Froch just had more class, it wasn't a white-wash beating ala RJJ vs. any of the LH tin cans he faced in the late 90's early 00's.
Gif was a terrific KO of Berrio, and he's a rough, tuff customer.
When I think of Bute though, I always think of him with that southpaw left uppercut just waiting to rip it to the liver like recoil action, knocking guys out and hurting them with bodyshots.
I love a great bodypuncher, y'know...
Berrio was a bum!Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Berrio was in the top 10 out of a talent field of almost a thousand licensed professional boxers worldwide at super-middleweight.
Have a little respect for the top 10 athletes in the sport you supposedly support.
I have respect for the sport, enough not to fluff bums fighting tin-cans... that's what they do? Create Bears out of squirrles for kittens to slay them... enough of these rigged rankings man. Say top 10...gthooh!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
:mad:
Without mid-level and lower-tier boxers, there's no sport.
The sport is built on the backs of guys like Reggie Strickland and Peter Buckley, and the 16 thousand other licensed professional boxers who'll never make any real money from it...
Show some class...
Class, sir? I'm insulted by your words. It's offensive!Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Berrio was what he was. Don't get into another argument about mid-level and lower-tier boxers, when that isn't the discussion. The discussion is/was calling Berrio what he was- and, there were probably 100 others boxers in the same division, boxing organization that were ten times better than Berrio- but politics and fluffing up bums was what we need to feed to some guys.
But, at least Bute was the king of the tin-cans. No more!
Eat me...