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If these two fought then who you got?
I think it would be a good fight for both guys right now and I see Scott outboxing Fury to a UD. He has the size, strength and boxing ability to do it and keep Fury off him.
I really think this would be a good opportunity for both guys.
For sure a good matchup, and I'd have Scott by a fairly wide UD as well. Thing is having not gotten the decision in his last fight, and being obscure as it was, Scott brings nothing to the table.
I really don't think it can be overstated just how bad Fury actually is myself. He will get whipped the second he fights anyone near his size who is remotely decent. I realize the division is a wasteland and thats only a handful of guys, but I'm saying even people like Arreola or Helenius could well ice him in a round. I actually hope they just go ahead and put him in with Wlad sooner than later, it would be a really funny KO.
Fury by stoppage or UD.
Fury has fought Chisora, Kevin Johnson, and Cunningham and won comfortably ( excluding knockdown).
Malik has only fought 2 decent fighters and failed against the last one by getting that draw.
Malik has the skill but nowhere near the power to trouble Fury. Fury is hard to beat when he has no worries about power and can just walk you down!
That's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
He left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Lennox Lewis never threw an overhand right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosHe left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Riddick Bowe didnt either ?
I know, I made sure the sentence didn't exclude everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlLennox Lewis never threw an overhand right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosHe left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Riddick Bowe didnt either ?
Tbh the sentence didn't really deserve a full post and quote. Shame on you.
Wtf was he supposed to do ? Malik's not a KO puncher ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosHe left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Anyhoo from here on out we will all obnoxiously highlight at least one glaring fault in your posts and berate you for it.......
rabble rabble rabble ! :mad::mad::mad:
explain what you mean then dude , dont turn into ROSS and contradict yourself all the time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosI know, I made sure the sentence didn't exclude everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlLennox Lewis never threw an overhand right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosHe left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Riddick Bowe didnt either ?
Tbh the sentence didn't really deserve a full post and quote. Shame on you.
I think its a stretch to say Scott 'dominated' Glazkov in any fashion, big time styles clash. I had Glaz on more effective punching and body work by about 2,3 points.
Fury is a walking trivia question living on a fast ticking 15 minutes of fame, sorry but thats what I see. I just dont know if Scott is offense minded and willing enough to set his feet and punch between his predictable delivery to keep that mass and maul from wearing his legs down.
Not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Alexplain what you mean then dude , dont turn into ROSS and contradict yourself all the time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosI know, I made sure the sentence didn't exclude everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlLennox Lewis never threw an overhand right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosHe left it up to the judges, so a draw was his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's bullshit and you know it. He clearly CLEARLY dominated that fight against the hard hitting Russian, who is shorter, but a better puncher and more talented than Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Everything else you said makes sense though. Fair enough. I will add that I don't think Fury could just walk thru Scott's punches, but he would have the power advantage for sure.
I agee Fury wouldn't just walk through Scott's punches, but he would fight without fear, as 6'5 fighters don't really throw overhands rights and Scott certainly doesn't.
Riddick Bowe didnt either ?
Tbh the sentence didn't really deserve a full post and quote. Shame on you.
My thoughts are this. Watching big heavyweights recently I don't see very many overhand rights being thrown, granted that there are some big heavyweights that have done it regularly.
Cruisers like Cunningham use it against bigger fighters like he did v Fury.
Although I know my knowledge is pretty good on boxing and heavyweights in particular, I have never claimed to be the the Wikipedia of boxing information.
And if I'm talking shit correct me. But perspective is subjective.
I had Scott winning 7 or 8 rounds. Scott couldnt outbox Fury the way he did Glaz. Fury is too big and has a very good jab so will probably outbox Scott. I reckon Fury by late stoppage here. Fury would definitely be favorite
"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
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Ring Magazine (June 2013)
I agree with you about Fury, he has the size, the heart, the power but not the chin or the boxing ability. It's too bad really because he has the confidence and is willing to fight anyone. Like you said, he's doomed when he gets close to the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Tyson Fury should SHOULD be able to handle Scott. You just have to find the target & land, don't gun for the KO, let the KO come to you. IMO it would be no different than the Kevin Johnson fight.
I DO think Malik Scott could take out Magomed Abdusalamov thought....that guy is primed for a loss
malik scott better hurry up and get on with it :S he is pretty old now and has wasted so many years ..... his performance v glazhkov, who i think is very good, shows he certainly has a fair amount of real talent... maybe he has left it too late though
Fury by a MD...
"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
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Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
i just don't see malik scott having the tools to trouble tyson fury. fury's big weakness is against punchers, and he'd just walk into range and brawl his way to a win on a better workrate.
i hoped i'd seen the last of scott when he disappeared a few years ago, but i don't see him troubling the title scene.
Tyson fury's big weakness is against punchers, boxers, people the same size as him, people who are smaller and Karaoke.
And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
-
Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
Rating Broner too highly in the mythical, hypothetical P4P makes ALL material in Ring Magazine null and void ?
It wasn't even close to a draw. One guy barely threw any punches and was soundly outboxed by the other guy.
It means everyone has an opinion, and just because its called The Bible of boxing doesn't mean its own is sacred and fact. You and I saw different fights on the same night. One guy was effected and moved by the others punches and he looked very prevent defense minded I thought. He almost talked as much shit during the fight as he did afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAnd what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
-
Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
Rating Broner too highly in the mythical, hypothetical P4P makes ALL material in Ring Magazine null and void ?
It wasn't even close to a draw. One guy barely threw any punches and was soundly outboxed by the other guy.
We certainly did see different fights. I was simply using Ring magazine to support my statement and reinforce that the majority of folks did see a dominating performance by Malik Scott.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIt means everyone has an opinion, and just because its called The Bible of boxing doesn't mean its own is sacred and fact. You and I saw different fights on the same night. One guy was effected and moved by the others punches and he looked very prevent defense minded I thought. He almost talked as much shit during the fight as he did afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAnd what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
-
Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
Rating Broner too highly in the mythical, hypothetical P4P makes ALL material in Ring Magazine null and void ?
It wasn't even close to a draw. One guy barely threw any punches and was soundly outboxed by the other guy.
He is a shit talker, but then again so is Tyson Fury. Fury more so I feel and certainly more ignorant with his boasts of being able to defeat UFC heavyweight Cain Velasquez and other such outlandish nonsense he doesn't even believe.
I hear you bud. At the end of the day its their opinion I just think dominating is way off the mark and in line with BJ Flores nuthuggery. Hey, huge difference between Scott and Fury shit talk is Scott is 10 times the skilled boxer. 4 yrs off is massive though. I'd like to see more sit sown and fire from Scott before he approaches a out of tune but all in your face behemoth in Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkWe certainly did see different fights. I was simply using Ring magazine to support my statement and reinforce that the majority of folks did see a dominating performance by Malik Scott.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIt means everyone has an opinion, and just because its called The Bible of boxing doesn't mean its own is sacred and fact. You and I saw different fights on the same night. One guy was effected and moved by the others punches and he looked very prevent defense minded I thought. He almost talked as much shit during the fight as he did afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAnd what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
-
Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
Rating Broner too highly in the mythical, hypothetical P4P makes ALL material in Ring Magazine null and void ?
It wasn't even close to a draw. One guy barely threw any punches and was soundly outboxed by the other guy.
He is a shit talker, but then again so is Tyson Fury. Fury more so I feel and certainly more ignorant with his boasts of being able to defeat UFC heavyweight Cain Velasquez and other such outlandish nonsense he doesn't even believe.
We can agree to disagree on Scott's last fight, but we can both agree BJ Flores is an extremely bias commentator. The way he called the Eddie Chambers vs. Adamek fight was terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI hear you bud. At the end of the day its their opinion I just think dominating is way off the mark and in line with BJ Flores nuthuggery. Hey, huge difference between Scott and Fury shit talk is Scott is 10 times the skilled boxer. 4 yrs off is massive though. I'd like to see more sit sown and fire from Scott before he approaches a out of tune but all in your face behemoth in Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkWe certainly did see different fights. I was simply using Ring magazine to support my statement and reinforce that the majority of folks did see a dominating performance by Malik Scott.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIt means everyone has an opinion, and just because its called The Bible of boxing doesn't mean its own is sacred and fact. You and I saw different fights on the same night. One guy was effected and moved by the others punches and he looked very prevent defense minded I thought. He almost talked as much shit during the fight as he did afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAnd what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli"Adrien Broner #5 P4P in the world"....Ring MagazineQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk"He celebrated in the ring following a DOMINATING 10 round performance over Vyacheslav Glazkov, perhaps thinking he'd finally shed the eight round fighter label. But then the judges intervened and crashed the party with their verdict."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
"Scott cleanly out-boxed, outclassed and out smarted the 2008 super heavyweight bronze medalist from the Ukraine, but had to settle for a draw...."
"Scott displayd an excellent jab and looked the part of a legitimate heavyweight contender. But on this night, he was no match for the judges."
-
Ring Magazine (June 2013)
You have a 90% backfoot boxer with a fine jab with a 90% pressure guy landing heavier shots..it was a draw ffs. It was not a robbery.
Rating Broner too highly in the mythical, hypothetical P4P makes ALL material in Ring Magazine null and void ?
It wasn't even close to a draw. One guy barely threw any punches and was soundly outboxed by the other guy.
He is a shit talker, but then again so is Tyson Fury. Fury more so I feel and certainly more ignorant with his boasts of being able to defeat UFC heavyweight Cain Velasquez and other such outlandish nonsense he doesn't even believe.