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No offense to khan, but reports shows he will move up in weight and fight devon alexander rather than rematch garcia, peterson (prescott might not have achieved as much as khan but he did still ko khan).
Khan will then probably get the mayweather fight early 2014.
What is everyones thoughts on current and past fighters who avenge their losses or completely ignore them?
It depends when it happened. I always thought Khan should of tried to avenge his loses. But I never held it against Bernard Hopkins for not avenging his loss to Clinton Mitchell
How about knockout losses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
By all accounts, Khan wants the winner of the tournament, and I think he wants Garcia most since he never shuts up about it. I hear that Garcia doesn't want it though, or more, Angel doesn't want it as they're upset that Khan is the grand prize for the winner of the tournament when he lost to 2 of the participants.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Golden Boy have told him there isn't much they can do if Garcia rejects it, so Khan is talking up an Alexander fight instead. It is a winnable fight, and if he was to beat Alexander he'd be a 2 weight world champion with a lucrative mandatory fight in Kell Brook.
rename this thread, man up vs being a pussy?
Was always a step backwards for khan to fight Prescott again.
He should fight garciaand Peterson.
Backwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
I think it's a huge thing to avenge your losses. Lennox Lewis is the best example... right now he's considered to be at least top 10 of all time, and often shows up in top 5 ATG hw lists (including my own). He got KTFO by McCall and Rahman, went back at them and brutalized them both. When you do that, the fans can say "well the first was a fluke".
An unavenged loss will always be a black hole on your resume! ESPECIALLY in Khan's case where Prescott starched him like a bum in 30 seconds.
But what if you get the same result again? That really is a black hole! Then you start hearing "he has your number".Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
For sure! But I think it's better to at least try. If someone KTFO you, IMO a true champion will be chomping at the bit to get back in there and get revenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
...if they dont wanna get back in there, to me it says they are mentally pwned and scared! :cool:
Gotta love Lennox, he knew he was the best, he knew he'd murder those two turkeys... and he did!
...hmmm Khan? Maybe not so much ahhaha
I think that in the end, it's all about the fashion in which you did lose and how a revenge is relevant or not for the boxing community.
Dead on! Wish that was my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
I think if Khan gets a chance to fight Mayweather for $3M, he should take it, because he's another knockout waiting to happen, like we almost saw in the Julio Diaz fight.
Khans done so much. I believe he has overachieved due to his punch resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by impBackwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
The only big name I believe is worth Khan beating is Floyd, because Floyd ain't a big puncher, and khan has faster hands. I say this because Khan ain't got a chance against anyone who hits harder, mattyse, garcia.... The list goes on.
Khans the only person who could out point PBF because of said hand speed, but of course Floyd in his prime takes it all day, but now... Maybe not.
Khan does not have the brain pan to beat a 50 year old Floyd. He mentally folds with one dimensional plodders. With Floyd he would think he was fighting a crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosKhans done so much. I believe he has overachieved due to his punch resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by impBackwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
The only big name I believe is worth Khan beating is Floyd, because Floyd ain't a big puncher, and khan has faster hands. I say this because Khan ain't got a chance against anyone who hits harder, mattyse, garcia.... The list goes on.
Khans the only person who could out point PBF because of said hand speed, but of course Floyd in his prime takes it all day, but now... Maybe not.
I dunno, he did fine against Peterson and that was about as high a pressure as you get adding the PEDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitKhan does not have the brain pan to beat a 50 year old Floyd. He mentally folds with one dimensional plodders. With Floyd he would think he was fighting a crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosKhans done so much. I believe he has overachieved due to his punch resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by impBackwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
The only big name I believe is worth Khan beating is Floyd, because Floyd ain't a big puncher, and khan has faster hands. I say this because Khan ain't got a chance against anyone who hits harder, mattyse, garcia.... The list goes on.
Khans the only person who could out point PBF because of said hand speed, but of course Floyd in his prime takes it all day, but now... Maybe not.
I still had him up after the point deductions. Hopefully their next fights are each other.
Khan v Mayweather I would enjoy.
Bang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Arguello never chased down Amaya.
Benny Leonard never bothered with Dunn or Finnegan.
Armstrong never chased down Lovino.
Conn never went after Leone.
Ted Lewis never avenged the Thomas loss.
Nameless nailed it. All about circumstances. Khan was given the key to the kingdom before he even entered vs Prescott rather than an obscure pro debut etc. Of course you seek redemption and to right the ship after such a disaster. Its not like Prescott faded into a black hole..he lingered in contention and remained visible. Always reminding. The questions, talk and speculation have hindered him ever since he got back to the locker room and I think have alot to do with his psyche and fighting so tightly wound. Some fighters stare ghosts in the face and course correct..others distance themselves, carry the baggage and just whistle through the graveyard the rest of the way.
It only has a meaning if the person that beat you is still good. There was no reason for hate to avenge his defeat against Thompson or khan against Prescott.
Khan beating mayweather would kill me. I like khan but i dont know how he is going to bypass the 140 mix to get to mayweather.
Both of these guys pretty much sum it up for me...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Nameless
Obviously its pretty important to Floyd Mayweather, that's why he gave Jose Luis Castillo a rematch. :cool::lickish:
But, its not that important to Adrien Broner since he never gave a rematch to Ponce De Leon (who I picked to beat Mares and didn't thank you very much)
He wouldn't have a prayer. Zab Judah had faster hands than Mayweather. Took him 2 rounds to adjust and figure him outQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosKhans done so much. I believe he has overachieved due to his punch resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by impBackwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
The only big name I believe is worth Khan beating is Floyd, because Floyd ain't a big puncher, and khan has faster hands. I say this because Khan ain't got a chance against anyone who hits harder, mattyse, garcia.... The list goes on.
Khans the only person who could out point PBF because of said hand speed, but of course Floyd in his prime takes it all day, but now... Maybe not.
So are we all agreed that khan needs to avenge his losses before he moves on?
No, Prescott keeps on losing to any decent fighter he faces since his victory over Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Sorry, i meant minus prescott.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo, Prescott keeps on losing to any decent fighter he faces since his victory over Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Why take garcia when the easier option is peterson
so many lol'sQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosKhans done so much. I believe he has overachieved due to his punch resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by impBackwards step or not, the majority of fighters would want revenge after a viscious knockout like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
If khan had rematched prescott and beat him he might have had a comfidence that would have got him alot further than he is now.
The only big name I believe is worth Khan beating is Floyd, because Floyd ain't a big puncher, and khan has faster hands. I say this because Khan ain't got a chance against anyone who hits harder, mattyse, garcia.... The list goes on.
Khans the only person who could out point PBF because of said hand speed, but of course Floyd in his prime takes it all day, but now... Maybe not.
how many years has mayweather been in his prime now?
Khan will take on the winner of Garcia/Peterson/MattyseQuote:
Originally Posted by impSorry, i meant minus prescott.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo, Prescott keeps on losing to any decent fighter he faces since his victory over Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Why take garcia when the easier option is peterson
Annoying how khan sits on the sidelines under golden boy waiting for the golden goose.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhan will take on the winner of Garcia/Peterson/MattyseQuote:
Originally Posted by impSorry, i meant minus prescott.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo, Prescott keeps on losing to any decent fighter he faces since his victory over Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Why take garcia when the easier option is peterson
While peterson fight mattyse let khan fight garcia and the winners fight each other.