He was hoping to land a rematch with deleon but with belt now in abners position, gonzalez wants to face him..
Its a good matchup imo stylistically and an easy fight to make.
Who wins?
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He was hoping to land a rematch with deleon but with belt now in abners position, gonzalez wants to face him..
Its a good matchup imo stylistically and an easy fight to make.
Who wins?
Gonzalez was losing to Ponce, did lose to Ponce far as I'm concerned. Always been a quality consistent fighter, but he can't beat Mares.
I say do it. Gonzalez has the power to stop Mares. And he has the chin to go out in 1
Cant see Gonzalez winning this. Only chance is a highlight reel KO but is very unlikely for me. Mares stops him by the 7th
Mares has an optional so this could happen and he really wants to fight in Mexico preferably in Guadalajara but after that he has to fight the modern day Cinderella man Robinson Castellano.
Exactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Jhonny definitely has the tools to beat Abner..
I just don't see Gonzalez beating Mares. Slim to 0% chance. I would pay 50-60$ to see Chris John come to the US - where he doesn't have any advantages, and get his ass whipped by Mares.
Chris John= most protected champion in boxing today
Im letting some of u know, its different at this level. U really must understand styles.:cool:
We get it Finito, you know your shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Gonzalez could always punch and he proved he still can,! Mares will go back to the drawing board
but he will come back, as for Gonzalez never say never, well done.;)
Mares reminds me of khan too. Overhyped with no chinQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHExactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It's not the fact that Gonzalez dropped him, the problem is when he got up he tried trading instead of holding- another khan trait.
Oscar was saying this guy was going to be p4p king which looks abit daft now. He can comeback but needs to make afew adjustments.
Lucky he didnt get the fight with Mikey Garcia but then again it could have gone any worse anyway
my bad. Gonzalez proved me wrong. I sort of feel humbled. Good for GonzalezQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645my bad. Gonzalez proved me wrong. I sort of feel humbled. Good for GonzalezQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Surprised the hell outta me.
Happy for Jhonny, been watchin him for years, figured he was outgunned here.
That hook was perfection. For three quarters of it's journey it looked like it was going to the body. Morale s had shots like that but never that stunning. Can I confess that I've never seen a Jhonny Gonzales fight!!
Mares chin is fine. It's held up to punches from good hitters like Darchinyan, Perez, Agbeko and De Leon. That shot from Gonzalez would of dropped any featherweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEMares reminds me of khan too. Overhyped with no chinQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHExactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It's not the fact that Gonzalez dropped him, the problem is when he got up he tried trading instead of holding- another khan trait.
Oscar was saying this guy was going to be p4p king which looks abit daft now. He can comeback but needs to make afew adjustments.
Lucky he didnt get the fight with Mikey Garcia but then again it could have gone any worse anyway
How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Nothing much. He just never saw it comingQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Why? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseNothing much. He just never saw it comingQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Maybe he was cold?
I think he let his guard down. The round was coming to an end. It was just a feeling out round. Neither fighter had really done much. Than bam. He's on the floorQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldWhy? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseNothing much. He just never saw it comingQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Maybe he was cold?
my thoughts precisely: check this out---how could he not see this punch? @greynotsooldQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1s1r690ShY
looks like he was expecting a body shot from the straight right, moved his right glove down in front of his face downwards like he anticipated a right to the solar plexus.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldWhy? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseNothing much. He just never saw it comingQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Maybe he was cold?
Jhonny dipped and gave a feint to the body and went upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Mares expected a jab, but jhonny turned it over.
I'm a big fan of fighters that have canny way's of landing shots. And it seems that Mexicans are the best at it!!!
But yeah it looks pretty clear to me that the shot looks like a body shot for most of it's journey.
Erik Morales has thrown a couple of career highlight shots like that in the past, one against Maidana and one against Angel Chacon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8o52Th1LaA(Happens bang on the 07:50 mark of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9fY9Chnjw