Jhonny Gonzalez wants Abner Mares in a Mexican war
He was hoping to land a rematch with deleon but with belt now in abners position, gonzalez wants to face him..
Its a good matchup imo stylistically and an easy fight to make.
Who wins?
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Gonzalez was losing to Ponce, did lose to Ponce far as I'm concerned. Always been a quality consistent fighter, but he can't beat Mares.
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I say do it. Gonzalez has the power to stop Mares. And he has the chin to go out in 1
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Cant see Gonzalez winning this. Only chance is a highlight reel KO but is very unlikely for me. Mares stops him by the 7th
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Mares has an optional so this could happen and he really wants to fight in Mexico preferably in Guadalajara but after that he has to fight the modern day Cinderella man Robinson Castellano.
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I say do it. Gonzalez has the power to stop Mares. And he has the chin to go out in 1
Exactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.
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Jhonny definitely has the tools to beat Abner..
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I just don't see Gonzalez beating Mares. Slim to 0% chance. I would pay 50-60$ to see Chris John come to the US - where he doesn't have any advantages, and get his ass whipped by Mares.
Chris John= most protected champion in boxing today
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Im letting some of u know, its different at this level. U really must understand styles.:cool:
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Gonzalez could always punch and he proved he still can,! Mares will go back to the drawing board
but he will come back, as for Gonzalez never say never, well done.;)
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Violent Demise
I say do it. Gonzalez has the power to stop Mares. And he has the chin to go out in 1
Exactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.
Mares reminds me of khan too. Overhyped with no chin
It's not the fact that Gonzalez dropped him, the problem is when he got up he tried trading instead of holding- another khan trait.
Oscar was saying this guy was going to be p4p king which looks abit daft now. He can comeback but needs to make afew adjustments.
Lucky he didnt get the fight with Mikey Garcia but then again it could have gone any worse anyway
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I just don't see Gonzalez beating Mares. Slim to 0% chance. I would pay 50-60$ to see Chris John come to the US - where he doesn't have any advantages, and get his ass whipped by Mares.
Chris John= most protected champion in boxing today
my bad. Gonzalez proved me wrong. I sort of feel humbled. Good for Gonzalez
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I just don't see Gonzalez beating Mares. Slim to 0% chance. I would pay 50-60$ to see Chris John come to the US - where he doesn't have any advantages, and get his ass whipped by Mares.
Chris John= most protected champion in boxing today
my bad. Gonzalez proved me wrong. I sort of feel humbled. Good for Gonzalez
Ditto.
Surprised the hell outta me.
Happy for Jhonny, been watchin him for years, figured he was outgunned here.
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Violent Demise
I say do it. Gonzalez has the power to stop Mares. And he has the chin to go out in 1
Exactly this. Gonzalez is also exciting to watch because you never know what is going to happen. He reminds me of Khan in that way - no chin, but a ton of skill and power.
Mares reminds me of khan too. Overhyped with no chin
It's not the fact that Gonzalez dropped him, the problem is when he got up he tried trading instead of holding- another khan trait.
Oscar was saying this guy was going to be p4p king which looks abit daft now. He can comeback but needs to make afew adjustments.
Lucky he didnt get the fight with Mikey Garcia but then again it could have gone any worse anyway
Mares chin is fine. It's held up to punches from good hitters like Darchinyan, Perez, Agbeko and De Leon. That shot from Gonzalez would of dropped any featherweight.
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How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
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How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Nothing much. He just never saw it coming
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How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Nothing much. He just never saw it coming
Why? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.
Maybe he was cold?
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Violent Demise
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greynotsoold
How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Nothing much. He just never saw it coming
Why? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.
Maybe he was cold?
I think he let his guard down. The round was coming to an end. It was just a feeling out round. Neither fighter had really done much. Than bam. He's on the floor
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How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
my thoughts precisely: check this out---how could he not see this punch? @greynotsoold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1s1r690ShY
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Violent Demise
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greynotsoold
How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Nothing much. He just never saw it coming
Why? He tipped it off as much as you can, but Mares moved his right hand across the front of his face, then dropped it. I can't see what he saw to make him do what he did, if that makes sense.
Maybe he was cold?
looks like he was expecting a body shot from the straight right, moved his right glove down in front of his face downwards like he anticipated a right to the solar plexus.
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How did he get hit with that shot? What happened to set it up?
Jhonny dipped and gave a feint to the body and went upstairs.
Mares expected a jab, but jhonny turned it over.
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I'm a big fan of fighters that have canny way's of landing shots. And it seems that Mexicans are the best at it!!!
But yeah it looks pretty clear to me that the shot looks like a body shot for most of it's journey.
Erik Morales has thrown a couple of career highlight shots like that in the past, one against Maidana and one against Angel Chacon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8o52Th1LaA(Happens bang on the 07:50 mark of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9fY9Chnjw