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Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
He insisted on fighting Cotto at 154 but he cant do the same for Canelo huh.. fuckin rubbish..
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154 or no fight. That simple. Alvarez won't let himself get punked
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
Dare I say Floyd needs Canelo more then Canelo needs Floyd? Floyds legacy will be looked at as a fighter who avoided the best in their peaks like manny and now Canelo?
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Fat chance of that happening
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I wouldn't take the fight if I were Canelo. 154 or nuthin at all!!
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
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Floyd is a cunt for doing this. Floyd bore the crap out of everyone in his last fight and will see out his contract winning comfortable points decisions against crap welterweight if he had his way. Floyd needs Saul because he sells fights so canelo can can demand it be at his weight.
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makes floyd look like too many conditions all the time---requiring pac to do HIS kind of blood testing, now requiring canelo to fight at HIS preferred weight. too picky and makes him look insecure, like it has to be at HIS conditions all the time or no fight.
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He did 154 for cotto cause cotto is only slightly bigger than floyd. If he did 154 for canelo canelo will take the piss and come in around 175, floyd is an old man now hes 36 he dont need to take risks like that canelo just wants to beat up a old man and he wants a huge weight advantage trying it and even then floyd would still beat the shit out of a 175lb canelo
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
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He did 154 for cotto cause cotto is only slightly bigger than floyd. If he did 154 for canelo canelo will take the piss and come in around 175, floyd is an old man now hes 36 he dont need to take risks like that canelo just wants to beat up a old man and he wants a huge weight advantage trying it and even then floyd would still beat the shit out of a 175lb canelo
So Floyd should stop with the dumb ass demands and man up. Did Roy try to weight drain Ruiz when he stepped up to challenge himself. No Roy manned up, got bigger and stepped up.
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He did 154 for cotto cause cotto is only slightly bigger than floyd. If he did 154 for canelo canelo will take the piss and come in around 175, floyd is an old man now hes 36 he dont need to take risks like that canelo just wants to beat up a old man and he wants a huge weight advantage trying it and even then floyd would still beat the shit out of a 175lb canelo
So Floyd should stop with the dumb ass demands and man up. Did Roy try to weight drain Ruiz when he stepped up to challenge himself. No Roy manned up, got bigger and stepped up.
Roy had goal to do something outstanding, Floyd has goal to maintain 0. I respect both guys, they know what they are doing.
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He did 154 for cotto cause cotto is only slightly bigger than floyd. If he did 154 for canelo canelo will take the piss and come in around 175, floyd is an old man now hes 36 he dont need to take risks like that canelo just wants to beat up a old man and he wants a huge weight advantage trying it and even then floyd would still beat the shit out of a 175lb canelo
So Floyd should stop with the dumb ass demands and man up. Did Roy try to weight drain Ruiz when he stepped up to challenge himself. No Roy manned up, got bigger and stepped up.
Roy only went up to HW cause ruiz was no challenge lets no kid on if it was a bigger or better HW roy would of went no were near the HW
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Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
Thank god someone else found it appalling that someone would compare the record of PBF to Canelo.
As far as 147 goes... like it or not, Floyd is the Money Man in the sport of boxing. He dictates the terms. He's cemented his legacy in the sport, while Canelo is just a fresh faced kid. He should bite the bullet and come down.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
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He did 154 for cotto cause cotto is only slightly bigger than floyd. If he did 154 for canelo canelo will take the piss and come in around 175, floyd is an old man now hes 36 he dont need to take risks like that canelo just wants to beat up a old man and he wants a huge weight advantage trying it and even then floyd would still beat the shit out of a 175lb canelo
So Floyd should stop with the dumb ass demands and man up. Did Roy try to weight drain Ruiz when he stepped up to challenge himself. No Roy manned up, got bigger and stepped up.
Roy only went up to HW cause ruiz was no challenge lets no kid on if it was a bigger or better HW roy would of went no were near the HW
Lets not kid ourselves that Roy has a glass jaw. One bomb from Ruiz and it was night night. It was a dangerous fight plain and simple. Roy knew he could get koed but he stepped up. Floyd can out box Canelo all day, but he knows there is a chance of getting caught. Roy manned up, Floyd has a skirt on
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Ruiz was shit back then dont think any1 gave him a chance and roy wanted the HW title so bad. Floyd's basically not interested in the 154 title hes been there and done it hes a 147 fighter plain and simple. I didnt see roy fucking with any other HW it was a 1 off cause Ruiz was easy an easy belt.
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Please man give your head a shake. You need to think sometimes before you hit send whenever a subject is at hand that involves a fighter that you literally hate. You cant compare a battle worn water weighted Cotto to a 22 year old in his prime like Alvarez. And btw why are the Alvarez people considering Cotto at this point?
Floyd has publicly stated that he wants to stay at 147 and lets get serious here. Alvarez was 171 pounds at fight time against Trout and that's with 24 hours of rehydration. A few more hours and he would probably have weighed over 180. Floyd probably weighs 150 at fight time Perhaps he should fight Ward next.
Robinson weighed 147 for his first fight with Lamotta but Ray was a big welter and transferred to 160 seamlessly.
Leonard took the 154 title prior to his 3 year retirement and fight with Hagler and he to was a bigger welter. Speaking of Hagler he probably never weighed as much as Alvarez at fight time.
Weight manipulation today has grown leaps and bounds compared even to the eighties.
Lastly Floyd is the top dog, the biggest draw and the greatest fighter on the planet. Why should he cater to the demands of the man expected to take over his rein? Legacy? We all know that Floyds view of legacy is quite different then most. Nobody fights 3 times in 5 years if their concern was legacy driven.
People need to take his age into consideration also and the fact that Floyds a natural welter.
Having said that, leave the titles at home at fight at 150.
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
Do you even read the bullshit that you post? You talk about how Canelo "lost or barely won" against Trout but you credit Floyd for the Castillo fight without mention.
Most people feel Floyd lost the first fight but of course you don't mention that. Same thing with DLH it was a split decision against an old ass de la hoya so what if he beat the 1 trick pony mayorga?
You twist your shit around so that it makes sense when it clearly does not. You talk about Canelo fighting tiny guys but you mention Floyd fighting Marquez without nothing about making him come up in weight a very smaller fighter than floyd comes over 2 pounds to weigh in... did not even make weight and we can only imagine how much higher he went. NO MENTION OF NONE OF THAT SHIT..
of course you mention Mosley a win for Floyd and 2 years later after losing to Pacquiao and Floyd hes waaayyy past his prime for canelo. Same for Guerrero 2 fights removed from 2 whole divisions.
You are so far up your ass on any mexican fighters that all you do is type shit about them.
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
Do you even read the bullshit that you post? You talk about how Canelo "lost or barely won" against Trout but you credit Floyd for the Castillo fight without mention.
Most people feel Floyd lost the first fight but of course you don't mention that. Same thing with DLH it was a split decision against an old ass de la hoya so what if he beat the 1 trick pony mayorga?
You twist your shit around so that it makes sense when it clearly does not. You talk about Canelo fighting tiny guys but you mention Floyd fighting Marquez without nothing about making him come up in weight a very smaller fighter than floyd comes over 2 pounds to weigh in... did not even make weight and we can only imagine how much higher he went. NO MENTION OF NONE OF THAT SHIT..
of course you mention Mosley a win for Floyd and 2 years later after losing to Pacquiao and Floyd hes waaayyy past his prime for canelo. Same for Guerrero 2 fights removed from 2 whole divisions.
You are so far up your ass on any mexican fighters that all you do is type shit about them.
You cant half chat some shit the castilo fight was close i had floyd winning by 1 point i think not to bad considering he only had 1 hand for most of the fight, then he owned him in the rematch. The ODLH fight ive seen this 3 or 4 time and can honestly say i dont know how any1 and i mean any1 could think ODLH won i didnt even see it close floyd clearly won.The marquez fight was at a catch weight of 144 marquez wanted this fight and was more than happy with the weight floyd did come in two pounds over weight but.Canelo wants to fight the smaller guys he should call out ward hes more his size
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[QUOTE=g3org3;1154795][QUOTE= You cant half chat some shit the castilo fight was close i had floyd winning by 1 point i think not to bad considering he only had 1 hand for most of the fight, then he owned him in the rematch. The ODLH fight ive seen this 3 or 4 time and can honestly say i dont know how any1 and i mean any1 could think ODLH won i didnt even see it close floyd clearly won.The marquez fight was at a catch weight of 144 marquez wanted this fight and was more than happy with the weight floyd did come in two pounds over weight but.Canelo wants to fight the smaller guys he should call out ward hes more his size[/QUOTE]
*Mayweather was given a decision against Castillo..if u thought May won, then u shouldn't be allowed to score a May fight again due to being biased. Seriously though, May lost that fight by 3 points. How?..being an ex-fighter and around the game,, i know everyone has an an achilles fighter... Roy Jone's was Tarver... Hopkins was Taylor... Ali's was Norton... Mosley's was Forrest and Forrest was Mayorga...all these guys could fight their achilles 5 times and prob lose 4 in their prime...May's was Castillo.
*ODLH was old... still, it w2as an imprssive win over a bigger guy, but DLH was old... veyone knows that.
*Cotto was old..and hit May many times..clean. Cotto got manhandled against Trout.
*Marquez shouldn't be fighting over 140 pounds..period... it was the only fight where May is actually bigger... lol. Marquez last fight at WELTERWEIGHT, he only weighed 142lbs... this was Marquez 1st fight at welter and May still couldn't ko him... i believe Marquez to be a much more dangerous fighter NOW... but he shouln't be fighting over 140lbs,
*Ortiz...he's a punk.. enough said.
*May gets millions for fighting ...Guerrero? that's the guy they came up with? hell, Why should May fight anyone good if they're gunna pay him that much for Guerrero. I just saw the fight last night, May needs to retire before he loses. I believe EVEN an older Pac would beat him..and i mean BEAT him. Guerrero laid down, throwing one punch at a time, letting May set up and not really fighting and letting his hands go. Canelo's too big for May, and if May won't fight Pac, then he won't fight Canelo... but there's still guys like Thurman, who i think is a hell of lot more dangerous than Guerrero... Trout, same thing. I hadn't seen the May/Guerrero fight till last night, and i walked away after the 5th...Two things i found out last night..." that wasn't a fight, that was a sparring session and May's not the fighter he thinks he is"...
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
Do you even read the bullshit that you post? You talk about how Canelo "lost or barely won" against Trout but you credit Floyd for the Castillo fight without mention.
Most people feel Floyd lost the first fight but of course you don't mention that. Same thing with DLH it was a split decision against an old ass de la hoya so what if he beat the 1 trick pony mayorga?
You twist your shit around so that it makes sense when it clearly does not. You talk about Canelo fighting tiny guys but you mention Floyd fighting Marquez without nothing about making him come up in weight a very smaller fighter than floyd comes over 2 pounds to weigh in... did not even make weight and we can only imagine how much higher he went. NO MENTION OF NONE OF THAT SHIT..
of course you mention Mosley a win for Floyd and 2 years later after losing to Pacquiao and Floyd hes waaayyy past his prime for canelo. Same for Guerrero 2 fights removed from 2 whole divisions.
You are so far up your ass on any mexican fighters that all you do is type shit about them.
You cant half chat some shit the castilo fight was close i had floyd winning by 1 point i think not to bad considering he only had 1 hand for most of the fight, then he owned him in the rematch. The ODLH fight ive seen this 3 or 4 time and can honestly say i dont know how any1 and i mean any1 could think ODLH won i didnt even see it close floyd clearly won.The marquez fight was at a catch weight of 144 marquez wanted this fight and was more than happy with the weight floyd did come in two pounds over weight but.
Canelo wants to fight the smaller guys he should call out ward hes more his size
Super Middleweight is closer to Light Middleweight than Welterweight? What the fuck are you smoking buddy? I don't even know if I should reply to you after that. Clearly your boxing knowledge is failing you.
Let me break it down for you Floyd wants 147 limit. Canelo fights and wants at 154 limit. 7 pound diff. Yet you say he should fight Ward at 168 limit. That's 14 pounds over his weight class. Go have a nap.
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its not the 154 its what he will weight on fight night he will be 20lbs over the 154 and floyd would probably be 148-150 max thats not a fair fight for a 36 year old even if it is mayweather canelo wants to fight a small man end off what i was sayin is why dont he call out a bigger opponent and yes he could fight ward no problem they weigh around the same on fight night so you go have a nap bell end
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Numerically yea. Quality? Not even close, Canelo has only fought really one top guy in his prime and IMO still lost the fight or well barely won it, and that was against Trout.
Floyd has wins over the likes of Genaro Hernandez (RIP), Manfredy (when he was a good fighter), Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti (RIP), Judah, De La Hoya (coming off the Mayorga win), Hatton, JMM, Mosley (although past it, he was further passed it when he fought Canelo), Ortiz, Cotto, and now Guerrero
Canelo has beaten up Baldomir (4 yrs after Floyd did it), Hatton (Matthew that is =/), Rhodes, Gomez (tiny fighter), Cintron, Mosley (came out with his walker), Lopez, and now Trout
so the difference is clear as day when it comes to quality
Do you even read the bullshit that you post? You talk about how Canelo "lost or barely won" against Trout but you credit Floyd for the Castillo fight without mention.
Most people feel Floyd lost the first fight but of course you don't mention that. Same thing with DLH it was a split decision against an old ass de la hoya so what if he beat the 1 trick pony mayorga?
You twist your shit around so that it makes sense when it clearly does not. You talk about Canelo fighting tiny guys but you mention Floyd fighting Marquez without nothing about making him come up in weight a very smaller fighter than floyd comes over 2 pounds to weigh in... did not even make weight and we can only imagine how much higher he went. NO MENTION OF NONE OF THAT SHIT..
of course you mention Mosley a win for Floyd and 2 years later after losing to Pacquiao and Floyd hes waaayyy past his prime for canelo. Same for Guerrero 2 fights removed from 2 whole divisions.
You are so far up your ass on any mexican fighters that all you do is type shit about them.
I didn't twist shit around, I didn't even mention Baldomir as one of Floyd's wins cause it wasn't a big win for him in retrospect, the fact that it has to be put up as one of Canelo's "marquee" victories says something
Floyd won his first title at Super Featherweight, Marquez won his first title at Featherweight, just one division south, so not much of a difference in starting point
Canelo's first fight against a notable name (Jose Cotto) was at welterweight against a lightweight, and then he fought Baldomir, then a string of either older fighters or smaller guys in Rhodes, Hatton, Gomez, Cintron, Mosley, Lopez and then finally growing a pair and stepping it up against Trout.
DLH still had more in the tank and wasn't weight drained against Floyd compared to against Pacquiao, so yea he deserves a bit of credit, never said it was against a prime young DLH, but it wasn't against a shot Mosley who's record heading into the fight was 0-2-1 in his last 3 fights, 2 losses being lopsided ass whooping to Mayweather and Pacquiao at Welter and a draw at 154 against a mediocre Mora
AAAAAAAAAAND Mayweather whooped Mosley before Mosley took on Pacquiao so why the fuck would I say he took him on 2 yrs after getting beat up by Pacquiao?!? learn your history buddy, Canelo took him on 2 yrs after Floyd schooled his ass
and the fact that he's Mexican has nothing to do with it, I praise guys like JMM, Mares, Garcia, etc. just cause I don't suck off the cinnamon one's junk like you do don't try to make this a racial thing, you're the one who's ass hurts every time a Puerto Rican is mentioned
and with all that said, don't see any reason why the fight should be at welterweight, Floyd has won titles at 154 so he should be able to compete at the weight again with no problem
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Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as Floyd.
Not quite young man.
Check his resume and you will find he doesnt fight anyone his own weight but blown up welters but expects the best boxer on earth to bow down to his demands.
He wont give trout a rematch and weighs the same as a light heavy on fight night!
Floyd is doing the right thing and canelo and golden boy need to stop being scared and accept the demands.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
Pacman does catchweights.
Big difference fella.
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Ruiz was shit back then dont think any1 gave him a chance and roy wanted the HW title so bad. Floyd's basically not interested in the 154 title hes been there and done it hes a 147 fighter plain and simple. I didnt see roy fucking with any other HW it was a 1 off cause Ruiz was easy an easy belt.
Lets not discredit ruiz.
Two time heavyweight champion.
Roy took a huge a risk fighting ruiz but now we all have hindsight are so quick to criticize a huge achievement.
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What was floyd mayweathers hardest or best win?
There arent any.
But if we rewind history and pretend floyd got cut or perhaps a few knockdowns or floyd was gassed in the last rounds with any opponent thats what makes a great or best opponent in some peoples eyes...
How about they were all hard great opponents but they didnt effect floyd like that might have done in their own respective careers with other opponents.
Calzaghe gets alot of abuse who may not have dominated all his opponents like floyd does but deserves the same respect as he stayed true to boxing.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
Pacman does catchweights.
Big difference fella.
LOL... Okay if you say so; Taking a fighter out of his comfort zone does not seem like it would be a legit win to me, be it Pacman or Money May.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
Pacman does catchweights.
Big difference fella.
LOL... Okay if you say so; Taking a fighter out of his comfort zone does not seem like it would be a legit win to me, be it Pacman or Money May.
Then dont take the fight then..
Oscar dictated the weight, gloves, ring and etc when he fought floyd and guess what floyd took the risk and beat him..
Why cant canelo?..could be the passing of the torch but we will never know as canelo wont step up (or down) to the plate.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
Pacman does catchweights.
Big difference fella.
LOL... Okay if you say so; Taking a fighter out of his comfort zone does not seem like it would be a legit win to me, be it Pacman or Money May.
But its ok to take the sports biggest star out of his?
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This is all foreplay.
Floyd beats Alvarez at 147 or 154.
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Wow I'm actually a little surprised by this. This is the same crap Pacman has done to his opponents. Maybe Floyd is a little scared of Canelo and does not want to lose his 0.
Pacman does catchweights.
Big difference fella.
LOL... Okay if you say so; Taking a fighter out of his comfort zone does not seem like it would be a legit win to me, be it Pacman or Money May.
Then dont take the fight then..
Oscar dictated the weight, gloves, ring and etc when he fought floyd and guess what floyd took the risk and beat him..
Why cant canelo?..could be the passing of the torch but we will never know as canelo wont step up (or down) to the plate.
I agree for Canelo not to take the fight. Its 1 thing to go up but its another to come down. Floyd can go up no problem which he's done before. Why not have Chavez Junior come down to 154 then. Canelo has outgrown 147 and 154 will not be far off.
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FinitoElDinamita
Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
Dare I say Floyd needs Canelo more then Canelo needs Floyd?
Floyds legacy will be looked at as a fighter who avoided the best in their peaks like manny and now Canelo?
what an idiotic comment Canelo is like 22 years old and recently fought a game and undefeated Trout.
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FinitoElDinamita
Canelo dont need Floyd .. Dude is a superstar already and can make his own legacy with other fighters.
He's what 22? And he has almost the same record as
weight but blown up welters but expects the best boxer on earth to bow down to his demands.
He wont give trout a rematch andweighs the same as a light heavy
on fight night!
Floyd is doing the right thing and canelo and golden boy need to stop being scared and accept the demands.
too funny PBF fights light hitting blown up lightweights. just like Pac avoids athletic blk fighters like Alexander.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
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FinitoElDinamita
At least he's not fucking about with catchweights...
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
People need to learn how to read between the lines. Mayweather wanting Alvarez to come down to 147 is code word for I don't wanna fight this kid. It's that simple. Alvarez hasn't fought at welterweight in over 3 years. He tried to make 147 for the Jose Cotto fight and failed. It's impossible for him to make 147 any more. His body won't let him. That's like asking Mayweather to make 140. It's not possible. Mayweather knows all this. Him asking for Alvarez to meet him at 147 is his way out of the fight. The only reason a fighter makes a demand that he already knows is impossible to ever be met is cuz he doesn't want the fight. Mayweather can spit all the nonsense he wants about he's number 1 and Alvarez needs to do this and needs to do that. That's fine. But bottom line is he's making a demand that not only does he already know is never gonna be accepted but is impossible to even be accepted.
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Re: Floyd wants to bring Canelo down to 147
Floyd has a belt at 154 so put it up!!! Floyd can weigh 150 easily and be very fit and Canelo needs to make 154 the proper weight for jr. middle! Done!!! Its considered the best challenge right now for BOTH fighters!!! "ring the damn bell" come on Floyd, grow some in your old age! Ray.
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Excuse the bad lanuage but thats Complete bollocks.
Yes, why doesnt the best, highest paid athlete on earth disadvantage himself against an overrated light heavyweight come fightime!
Canelo will weigh TWO stone (25-30lbs) more than floyd come fight time!
If coming down in weight is so bad why doesnt canelo go up in weight and fight andre ward which would be another mega showdown.
Floyd ducks no one and since he destroyed guerrero after a year off and a stint in prison the hate seems to have intensified against him.