Paul McCloskey is saying it is a joke if Khan gets a Mayweather fight

McCloskey Laughs: Mayweather vs. Khan - What a Joke! - Boxing News

I think off the back of his losses and his mediocre performance against Diaz, I think Khan has a little more to prove before fighting Mayweather. If he fights and beats Alexander, I could live with it because his speed could cause Mayweather issue and Khan always brings an exciting fight.

I take issue with McCloskey bitching about it though. Surely he should be concentrating on his own career after being stopped by a shot Demarcus Corley and being outboxed by Khan while not throwing punches and assuming he was winning the rounds?

You take issue because he posted on twitter what non-boxers are thinking and saying?

McCloskey is obviously bitter and a bit rubbish too.

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McCloskey is obviously bitter and a bit rubbish too.

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I agree, Khan did him.

What an arsehole, he should have faded to oblivion already.

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McCloskey is obviously bitter and a bit rubbish too.

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I agree, Khan did him.

What an arsehole, he should have faded to oblivion already.

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I agree with McCloskey, Khan should be way, way down on Floyd's list. That's why Floyd will probably pick him, he needs these fast and easy meals.

Khan is the second most qualified fighter for Floyd to face after pac. He's got a significant fan base and its peimarily outside of America, so it will attract a massive audience and keep his PPV numbers high. Khan is a KO waiting to happen so Floyd will look great beating him. What more could mayweather want in an opponent? What more could anyone want for themselves at 36?

I don't know why you guys are giving this Paul McCloskey fella shit, he's right on the money. If people think that the best p4p fighter in the world should be fighting a guy who dropped back to back fights (including a brutal beatdown) less than a year ago, you're crazy.

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Khan is the second most qualified fighter for Floyd to face after pac. He's got a significant fan base and its peimarily outside of America, so it will attract a massive audience and keep his PPV numbers high. Khan is a KO waiting to happen so Floyd will look great beating him. What more could mayweather want in an opponent? What more could anyone want for themselves at 36?

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lol a-ha. Ok then ;D

Paul should concentrate on his own career as he does sound bitter and twisted.

He is right about Khan however.

Floyd is a little shit with his contract.

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Khan is the second most qualified fighter for Floyd to face after pac. He's got a significant fan base and its peimarily outside of America, so it will attract a massive audience and keep his PPV numbers high. Khan is a KO waiting to happen so Floyd will look great beating him. What more could mayweather want in an opponent? What more could anyone want for themselves at 36?

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lol a-ha. Ok then ;D

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Boxing is a business. Smart fighters want to make money and not get hurt. Floyd is a smart fighter... He's made millions and will continue to do so until he retires with his perfect record intact and his brain working at 99%. Why would he do it any differently?
Not to mention Khan makes a bunch of money. The networks make a bunch of money. The fans get to see Khan KO'd in spectacular fashion again. Everybody wins! Unless your hate for Floyd is so strong that you'll only be satisfied when he gets KO'd by someone 25 lbs heavier than him... And he's not gonna let that happen.

The problem really is... that there's not an abundant supply of good, well-known 147-pounders right now from which to choose from. So when you start going down the slim pickings... Khan's name shows up. I think it's wrong to consider Khan because of his huge British fan base. Yes... there's a lot of money to be made, but what about us fans? If there was more to pick from, we wouldn't be having to talk about hypothetical fights with Canelo (who Floyd won't fight at 154), Sergio (who's way too big for Floyd anyway), or Khan.

Before Khan, I'd consider the winner of Matthysse-Garcia, if that fight gets made.

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I don't know why you guys are giving this Paul McCloskey fella shit, he's right on the money. If people think that the best p4p fighter in the world should be fighting a guy who dropped back to back fights (including a brutal beatdown) less than a year ago, you're crazy.

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Agreed and I don't blame Paul for being pissed off. His fight with Khan was stopped on a paper cut. Oh it may have got a stitch or 3 but I've had worse hang nails then that.

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I don't know why you guys are giving this Paul McCloskey fella shit, he's right on the money. If people think that the best p4p fighter in the world should be fighting a guy who dropped back to back fights (including a brutal beatdown) less than a year ago, you're crazy.

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Agreed and I don't blame Paul for being pissed off. His fight with Khan was stopped on a paper cut. Oh it may have got a stitch or 3 but I've had worse hang nails then that.

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Yea was a shocking stoppage. Khan was winning every round but was signs of McCliskey getting back into it and in all fairness Khan was landing much. Paul could have gone for it late and Khans chin being shot you never know. Extremely unlikely but have to feel for a guy who loses the 0 on a bullshit stoppage

so if a better fighter than McCloskey came out and said he thinks Khan vs Mayweather is a joke that would be acceptable?

Yes, particularly someone who has not lost every round to Khan and then lost again. We all know Khan is not worthy yet but he will be if he clears the light welterweight by beating Garcia/Mattysse winner and then beats an Alexander to set up a fight with wanker Floyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wem05lnDXVQ

jump to 3.25

'Death wish'

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so if a better fighter than McCloskey came out and said he thinks Khan vs Mayweather is a joke that would be acceptable?

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The problem is that he's a bitter hypocrite. If McCloskey's name was mentioned anywhere near a big fight again, you bet he'd talk up his chances of winning. Khan, like any other fighter would do anything for a shot at the cash cow and p4p king. I agree that Khan probably needs a big win before a Mayweather fight, but McCloskey saying the fight is a joke is worthy of criticism. He should concentrate on trying to salvage what's left of his career instead of focusing on a guy who has bettered his every achievement and then some.

in comparable talent, it is a joke.

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in comparable talent, it is a joke.

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Khan-McCloskey I agree.

It would be a joke if Mayweather was to fight Amir Khan and thus I can see it happening a year from now. Khan doesn't deserve the fight and Mayweather doesn't deserve another easy pay day. I can see most of these final 5 fights being relative gimme's like Guerrero.

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so if a better fighter than McCloskey came out and said he thinks Khan vs Mayweather is a joke that would be acceptable?

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The problem is that he's a bitter hypocrite. If McCloskey's name was mentioned anywhere near a big fight again, you bet he'd talk up his chances of winning. Khan, like any other fighter would do anything for a shot at the cash cow and p4p king. I agree that Khan probably needs a big win before a Mayweather fight, but McCloskey saying the fight is a joke is worthy of criticism. He should concentrate on trying to salvage what's left of his career instead of focusing on a guy who has bettered his every achievement and then some.

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It's funny because it's McCloskey saying it, but it doesn't make it any less true. For whatever it's worth, McCloskey isn't saying "it should be me", which is the usual follow-up to comments like McCloskey made. McCloskey knows he ain't shit. But he might feel some resentment toward Khan and this is his way of getting it out. So two things: McCloskey sounds like a bitter fool, and Khan really isn't deserving of a shot at Mayweather at this time.

From a legacy viewpoint, the fight does nothing for Floyd's legacy. From a risk/reward viewpoint, it couldn't be better for Floyd.

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Yes, particularly someone who has not lost every round to Khan and then lost again. We all know Khan is not worthy yet but he will be if he clears the light welterweight by beating Garcia/Mattysse winner and then beats an Alexander to set up a fight with wanker Floyd.

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The truth is the truth, no matter who's mouth it comes out of IMO

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From a legacy viewpoint, the fight does nothing for Floyd's legacy. From a risk/reward viewpoint, it couldn't be better for Floyd.

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Jeez I don't know if I agree with that. Chinny or not, Khan is a fantastic boxing talent with the skill and speed to potentially be a handful for Floyd.

On the reward part, what does Floyd really gain? He's beating a 140lber who got brutally beaten less than a year ago. I realize he'll make a lot of money off of it, but I think at this point in his career Floyd can make a lot of money fighting just about anyone.

This is a smart move for Floyd. His fans will get to see him knock Khan down or perhaps knock him out, something he hasn't done lately. I like Khan, he is fun to watch but I don't think watching him fight Floyd will be that much fun

Khan might see his point under all the noise. Lets face it, just because hes cashing a massive check a guy can only be ko'd so many times before the gig is up. Khan might as well wear a massive red bow on his head and jump out of a box tossing gold coins when he is introduced..pre hammering.

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in comparable talent, it is a joke.

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Khan-McCloskey I agree.

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Khan-Mayweather - joke.

I don't wish to see Khan cash in but I do want to see him knocked out again ;D

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in comparable talent, it is a joke.

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Khan-McCloskey I agree.

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Khan-Mayweather - joke.

I don't wish to see Khan cash in but I do want to see him knocked out again ;D

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You really need to get off the fence when it comes to Amir Khan and let us know how you really feel, because I just can't read between the lines on your cryptic opinion.

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From a legacy viewpoint, the fight does nothing for Floyd's legacy. From a risk/reward viewpoint, it couldn't be better for Floyd.

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Jeez I don't know if I agree with that. Chinny or not, Khan is a fantastic boxing talent with the skill and speed to potentially be a handful for Floyd.

On the reward part, what does Floyd really gain? He's beating a 140lber who got brutally beaten less than a year ago. I realize he'll make a lot of money off of it, but I think at this point in his career Floyd can make a lot of money fighting just about anyone.

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Come on, @Beanflicker . Just once, let's agree on this. ;D

Amir Khan will pose exactly 0 danger for Floyd Mayweather. A guy who goes life and death with Julio Diaz poses no danger for Floyd Mayweather. Same with Guerrero, a guy who went life and death with Gamaliel Diaz and Orlando Salido, just isn't going to be a challenge for Floyd Mayweather. It doesn't matter if he has the fastest hands in the business, or is the toughest. Their flaws are too great for a master technician.

Amir Khan is a great fight for Floyd for exactly those reasons. Showtime's footing the bill. Why wouldn't he face one easy fight after another?

Again, this is nothing against Amir Khan. He's a great talent. It's just at the end of the day, for some reason, it doesn't all come together to make a guy who will give Floyd Mayweather problems.

In any event, wasn't the Lucas Matthysse/Lamont Peterson winner supposed to fight Danny Garcia, and the winner of that against Amir Khan?

I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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people shouldn't post while drunk ;D

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people shouldn't post while drunk ;D

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Tell me why any of those guys would be a bigger threat than Khan? Garcia and Matthyse are tailor made for Floyd. Bradley will win a couple rounds at best.

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Handspeed, footspeed and jab? So your saying Khan will have the advantage because he'll box Floyd? I dunno man, sounds like a kid bringing his Checker board to a Chess tournament right there. Khan gets shirt circuited and has a nasty habit of mentally seizing when he gets clipped, fighting the other guys fight. Floyd would have him on a leash like a trained poodle before top long.

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks

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It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks

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It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?

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Who is a challenge for Mayweather? I thought that was the argument. And I think Khan is more of a challenge then a guy like Garcia. Again Ill repeat, I do not think Khan will beat Mayweather

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I've got to disagree. Styles make fights and Amir has the speedster style that can be tricky for Mayweather.

A guy like Guerrero is tailor made for Mayweather's style because he's slow and doesn't really give Floyd a whole lot to process. Khan's hand speed, footspeed and jab would force Floyd out of his comfort zone and have him on his toes and thinking (same reason Pacquaio would have been an interesting matchup for Floyd).

I think Khan has much more of a chance to beat Mayweather than guys like Bradley, Garcia, Matthyse, and most of the other potential Floyd matchups.

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Amir Khan has fast hands. However, Amir Khan's speed didn't help him against Danny Garcia, a far more limited fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Julio Diaz didn't have too many issues with it either. Neither did Lamont Peterson or Breides Prescott. How is his speed going to cause Floyd Mayweather problems if the rest of those guys didn't have many issues with it?

Most of the time, just because fighter A beats fighter B, doesn't mean fighter C beats fighter B. But, if you lose to Danny Garcia, Breides Prescott, Lamont Peterson, and almost lose to Julio Diaz, you aren't beating Floyd Mayweather.

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First of all I dont think Khan beats Mayweather but I disagree with the comment above. A)Khan got caught early against Prescott and didnt have a chance to show his speed. B) He had Perterson down on the 1st round and had him in trouble. Peterson was on steroids that gave him the extra edge. C) Garcia was in trouble, was getting picked apart and had a nasty cut. If he hadnt caught him he could have been stopped.

I think Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd then Garcia because there is a chance Khan could win on points. No way in hell is Garcia getting a points victory against Mayweather and Mayweather is too good at avoiding getting hit to be troubled by Garcias hooks

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It wasn't a question of who would be easier for Floyd, Garcia or Khan, but whether Khan has a legitimate chance at beating Mayweather. So he had moments against Peterson, Prescott, and Garcia? The point is all those guys found ways to beat Khan, and they are nowhere near the level of Mayweather. If Garcia can time him, if Peterson can force him to fight Peterson's fight, and if Prescott can land that punch, Mayweather can do all those things and a lot more. I'm sorry but it was the same thing with Guerrero; Khan just isn't a challenge for Mayweather. He just isn't. I can't see it.

Missy hates Khan. I feel her. I don't, but against Mayweather, it's just a different level. @Beanflicker thinks very, very highly of Khan. Khan is a good fighter. He's a solid top ten junior welterweight (I think?). Who has been his best win at junior welterweight? Judah? Paulie? Am I missing someone?

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This, however, I feel it's too obvious to even debate.

Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?

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Khan is not a smart fighter, is chinny and some folks think he is going to outbox Mayweather and you wonder why I take the piss?

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In boxing, anything can happen. The chances of a Welter/Junior Welter beating Mayweather are very, very slim. The guy is just a different level. So as a fan, you look for the skills that make the most viable opponent for him. Mayweather was hurt by Mosley, so some would like to see how an older Mayweather would stand up against a solid puncher like Lucas Matthysse. Likewise, Mayweather had a little trouble Judah's speed, so people think that as Khan is a faster fighter, Floyd may struggle with someone who is just as fast. Everyone is beatable. Everyone has a weakness. The problem is that Floyd's weaknesses are barely visable, so the average fan is going to cling on to something he has struggled with, even if it was slight. Some have argued that Khan is more viable than Garcia. This is purely stylistically, and has nothing to do with if they think Khan is better than Garcia, it is more that Khan has a skill that is more likely to pose Mayweather a problem than Garcia.

Roy Jones thinks Khan has the speed and style to give Floyd problems too.