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Eddie Hopson - Boxer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB1DZT5uBS4
Ran across this lil guy watching an old episode of Tuesday Night Fights Knockouts, and he was a fast, slick lil fella.
Had a bit of a short career, and only held a world title once, but what a talent he was.
Anyone know much about him? Greynotsoold? ;D
I dunno if 10 years and 32 fights is a short career mate lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I saw him fight Tracy Patterson in the late 90s I think it was.
However if I remember rightly he got destroyed, so I know nothing of his slickness or talent.
eddie was a Duva/Benton fighter. Southpaw, very very fast and he was supposed to beat everybody because of this incredible speed. Worked pretty good for awhile, until he fought tracy Harris Patterson who, being a veteran of more than 50 fights and an honest to goodness pro, was not impressed by a guy that was basically a pretty good amateur.
Eddie had this habit of moving real fast, circling to his right, then skipping back the other way, hands down and feet together. Which he generally got away with because he was real fast, but against an honest to goodness pro fighter...As he was skipping back to his left, real fast with his hands down, THP timed a right and that was that. Stopped him in either the 2nd or 5th round on three knockdowns.
I knew he got stopped again right after that and then retired. I didn't know that he came back a few years later.
Watched "fast eddie" box as a junior J.O. kid and he won the nationals! He competed at the Olympic Training Center (Colo Spr. Colo) and lost as an open class fighter to stop him from competing on the national team! I think Georgie Benton had him but I don't remember if he lost interest in the sport or if he got caught by the streets! Entertaining boxer not much pop!!! Ray.
Clearly he's a victim of racism at the hands of spanish television...
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Negro means black in Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Blanco means white in Spanish.
I know it may have been obvious that you were joking.
But I've read your posts and you're clearly an idiot, so you never know.
Hopson was freakishly fast of hand and reflex but he was also a hyper bundle of nervous energy who never really transformed from great amatuer to educated professional. Beat Banks, Carl Daniels, Sharmba Mitchell among others in Ama. Turned pro in Highschool with Duva as trainer who made him finish school as he talked about dropping out for pros. He was in a rush and way to eager for his own good. A case of wanting to be a flashy star and small mistakes becoming a part of skill set instead of refining things. He got way ahead of himself. Sparring with Meldrick Taylor and Whitaker doesn't mean you can be them. He was getting caught in between flurries as he came up and Duva saw it. He belted around rugged Hector Monjardin but was stunned badly in second round before it was over. They saw Patterson as his breakout fight but honestly it was man vs boy and Patterson was reading him before he even entered the ring. Tracy actually came up two weight divisions for that fight and it was just a brutal eye opening beat down and Hopson never recovered.
I am pleasantly surprised at the wealth of knowledge on this guy. He was lightning fast and befuddled most guys he fought.
It was surprising seeing Patterson KO him as I never thought of Patterson as a KO puncher, but it makes sense how he got him when greynotsoold and spicoli explained it.
You guys reckon Gatti woulda done the same to him?
I think Gatti would have beat him. Gatti,was fast at that weight, could box pretty good and would have made him fight. Hopson didn't have the power to get him off, the chin to last in the exchanges, or the boxing skill to avoid them. See, Ivan Robinson beat Gatti twice because he could hit Gatti on the way in, get his hands off, change the angle to avoid getting hit back, then keep punching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Hopson didn't have that skill, never learned it. Never had to, I guess, because he was "fast." Fast hands, fast feet. So he never developed skill. Meldrick Taylor was very much in that same boat, which I take as a black mark on the Duva/Benton way of bringing fighters along. There are so many ways a good fighter can negate speed, and, in and of itself, speed is not as important as timing.
Ever wonder why a real fast guy can beat an opponent to the punch all night long, but never hurt him? A part of it is that he's not 'sitting down' on his punches. Mostly it is because he isn't hitting him at the right time. To maximize the value of his weight turn and your weight turn you have to be in sync, not way out in front.
Yeh bud I think Grey nailed it on all points. A boxing Gatti pre bricks & balls slugger would have done a number on Hopson also. As crazy as it sounds Hopson didn't 'have enough' to walk Gatti into his own faults?! Patterson wasn't a massive puncher but very solid boxer-puncher with timing. Hopson a good reflex type but when it got deep, he got wet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Fast Eddie was a cross between SWEET PEA and Meldrick Taylor , blurring handspeed , however he didn't have the toughness at top level , was exciting , and yes Gatti would have beheaded him.
He looks like Taylor and boxes like Sweet Pea. Patterson was a quality fighter but never heard of Hopson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Hopson is very impressive at first glance, but apparently his chin was not very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe looks like Taylor and boxes like Sweet Pea. Patterson was a quality fighter but never heard of Hopson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
His chin was ok, just because you fight the best and loose doesn't mean your not a quality guy! Does everyone have to be an ATG on these forums to be considered a quality guy??? I know guys with loosing records that know boxing and had talent but lacked enough power or didn't have the right bouts as he came up or needed fights to survive and took plenty of short notice bouts!!! This is a tuff business the fans think of a fight when he word tuff is meantioned but its the business and breaks you get that are tuff!! Eddie was very talented and Georgie did the gym work and Duva called the shots just so you know!!!! Not everyone is a Sugar Ray Robinson ......as a matter of fact theres only ONE! Ray.
*I remember Hopson well... truthfully, always thought he was a hype job... the Patterson fight was VERY predictable. Patterson KILLED Hopson.. Hop wasn't even in the same class.
If you rank the fighters with the fastest hand speed of the last 50 years the top 5 are
Meldrick Taylor
Ed Hopson
Roy Jones
Terry Norris
Mike Oliver
i'd say Howard davis is the fastest since the 70's...
Ray Leonard was fast and hit hard,
Camacho was fast..
Gamboa
Pac
Meldrick Taylor