Anthony Mundine vs. Shane Mosley in talks for August/September fight in Australia

Mundine vs. Mosley in the Works for August or September | Aus-Boxing

The fight would be at 154lbs. Mosley says he'd rather stay at 147, but they're offering good money to go to Australia for a fight at 154lbs against Mundine. Mundine has confirmed this. Horrible fight and just an excuse for Mundine to get a big name on his record. Not that it'll happen, but I'd love Shane to spark him.

If Shane take that fight, he's punch drunk!!! He better get the money while he can. Winner of Paul vs Broner or get a very soft fight and wait on the winner of Bradley vs JMM. I'll even suggest Khan at 147. He'll only need to land once.

Poor Aussies will have ppv for this fight.

Mosley Indicates Mundine Clash in Australia is Likely Next - Boxing News

Mosley says this is more than likely happening in October. He says he hasn't heard anything about a Kell Brook fight, so he is obviously not the name being mentioned for Brook.

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Poor Aussies will have ppv for this fight.

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Shane chasing that Aussie $

Shane is doing the Roy Jones road show which is sad. Hope he comes to UK and fights Kell.

Mosley still spanks Mundine's backside in any fight. It's a pity Mosley has to do this, but i don't think he has a choice as i believe his wife has delivered the biggest KO of his career and is taking him to the cleaners? Mundine will be no danger to him so he will escape unharmed.
I'd like to remember Shane Mosley as one of the all time great Lightweight champs whose finest hour ended up being the first DLH fight at 147lb. He also comes across as a good bloke.

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Mosley still spanks Mundine's backside in any fight. It's a pity Mosley has to do this, but i don't think he has a choice as i believe his wife has delivered the biggest KO of his career and is taking him to the cleaners? Mundine will be no danger to him so he will escape unharmed.
I'd like to remember Shane Mosley as one of the all time great Lightweight champs whose finest hour ended up being the first DLH fight at 147lb. He also comes across as a good bloke.

Divorce Settlement: Is This Why Shane Mosley Fights On?

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That whore of an ex wife was his 2nd biggest mistake. His biggest mistake was biting the hand that fed him and leaving Golden Boy. He had it made there. Every month he would get a check. And he did less work than Oscar and Hopkins. Keep in mind half of Oscar's work was him going to the golf course. Which goes to show how easy Mosley had it.

With that said, Mosley still beats Mundine

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Mosley still spanks Mundine's backside in any fight. It's a pity Mosley has to do this, but i don't think he has a choice as i believe his wife has delivered the biggest KO of his career and is taking him to the cleaners? Mundine will be no danger to him so he will escape unharmed.
I'd like to remember Shane Mosley as one of the all time great Lightweight champs whose finest hour ended up being the first DLH fight at 147lb. He also comes across as a good bloke.

Divorce Settlement: Is This Why Shane Mosley Fights On?

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That whore of an ex wife was his 2nd biggest mistake. His biggest mistake was biting the hand that fed him and leaving Golden Boy. He had it made there. Every month he would get a check. And he did less work than Oscar and Hopkins. Keep in mind half of Oscar's work was him going to the golf course. Which goes to show how easy Mosley had it.

With that said, Mosley still beats Mundine

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Too true. Leaving GBP for a one of fight with Manny was just stupid. I bet Arum fucked him on pay for that one too.

If Shane did not get paid he would have sued. Shane is to blame for his plight, he cheated on his wife with a dumb ass broad. The mother is only looking out for her children.

Looks like the fight is off:

Sugar Shane Mosley walks away from fight with Anthony Mundine | News.com.au

Sounds like a dispute over money with poor PPV and ticket sales. While I'm disappointed we don't get to see Mosley in the ring, I hope this is the final nail in the coffin for Mundine's career and we no longer have to listen to his bullsh!t.

Mosley always respectful. Doing his best to keep from saying Mundine fucking sucks

The fight is OFF, Mosley has returned home. It appears everything Mundine touches turns to shit...he wouldn't have beaten a 42 yr old Mosley anyway!

I have a few of questions.

How is Mundine relevant in boxing or relevant in Australia?
How can a fight with him actually net Shane 7 figures?
How can Shane expect to be paid in full before he fights?

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

I have a few of questions.

How is Mundine relevant in boxing or relevant in Australia?
How can a fight with him actually net Shane 7 figures?
How can Shane expect to be paid in full before he fights?

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1, I think Mundine is more relevant in his head than he actually really is. The poor state of Australian boxing might also have something to do with it

2, It couldn't. It's why he left

3, He had a feeling they were bullshitting and couldn't really pay him. Looks like he was right

Mundine is a PPV fighter in Aus, that's where the 7 figures come from, remember he was a Rugby star before crossing over to boxing. This fight with Mosley clearly didn't sell though.

Mosley got $300,000 upfront which he gets to keep. Considering he was offered $250,000 to fight Ortiz before taking the Mundine fight, that's what I call a result. He didn't even have to throw a punch.

Just heard about this, what a shady business boxing is. If Mosley was guaranteed the amount up front and didn't get it he couldn't have had many other options, but why on earth did this all not come about until now? The promoter(s) must have either been praying that half the seats would sell out days before the fight, or that Mosley would fight even though his purse was withheld, and either is ridiculous.
Kind of funny that the end result is more satisfying for all though. Mosley gets a nice little chunk of cash for doing nothing, the promoters lose their money, and we don't have to see a shot hall of famer either struggle to beat Mundine or lose to the cunt.

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Just heard about this, what a shady business boxing is. If Mosley was guaranteed the amount up front and didn't get it he couldn't have had many other options, but why on earth did this all not come about until now? The promoter(s) must have either been praying that half the seats would sell out days before the fight, or that Mosley would fight even though his purse was withheld, and either is ridiculous.
Kind of funny that the end result is more satisfying for all though. Mosley gets a nice little chunk of cash for doing nothing, the promoters lose their money, and we don't have to see a shot hall of famer either struggle to beat Mundine or lose to the cunt.

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Just odd. Tarver and Jones got paid w/o issues.

They only sold 1500 tickets. The PPV projections were abysmal. The promoter didn't even have the 300K in the first place, Jeff Fenech put that up for some reason. There was no way he was going to see the money so he did the sensible thing.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They only sold 1500 tickets. The PPV projections were abysmal. The promoter didn't even have the 300K in the first place, Jeff Fenech put that up for some reason. There was no way he was going to see the money so he did the sensible thing.

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Seeing reports that Main events offered Shane another 500 k to save the fight and he asked for the cheque. Just a strange series of events.

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Anthony Mundine and his team plan to follow Shane Mosley to the US in hopes of rescheduling the flight. “The fight is off for now, but it could be rescheduled. that’s what we’re working on,” Mundine said during a hastily called news conference at the Tony Mundine Gym in Sydney, Australia.

Meanwhile, Shane Mosley and his team are currently over the Pacific Ocean on Quantas flight 107. The plane is expected to arrive at LAX at around 6:45AM Wednesday morning.

Despite not fighting, Mosley will pocket $300,000, which was paid in advance per the contract and was nonrefundable. He was due the balance of $700,000 before the fight, which promoter Wlad Warton was unable to produce.

Boxing Hall of Famer and legendary Australian world champion Jeff Fenech stated that he personally put up the money to get Mosley to fight in Australia. “I gave him $460,000,” Fenech told AAP. “I certainly wouldn’t have done that if I thought the fight wasn’t going to go ahead because my guarantee was that when the fight went ahead, (with) the pay-per-view money and the pub and club money that I’d be paid back, but now it doesn’t look like it….Vlad Warton told me he needed $US300,000 as a start to getting here, then another $US100,000 for all his expenses, and a little more. So I accommodated for all that, and now they’ve gone home so I’m really left with nothing. It’s going to be a little bit tough for a while.”

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Jeff got bent over the park bench and probably never got kissed first. Shane looks like a common criminal. An elaborate con-job.

Very tough for Fenech, but it doesn't really sound like Shane was in bad faith or anything here to me:dontknow: If he was due the other 700 grand in writing before the fight, regardless of how absurd his making a million for the fight may have been, he has no obligation to fight without getting it. Seems like Fenech may have made the biggest error in judgement, this Warton promoter must have talked him into it somehow to cut his losses. Surely they(Mosley, Fenech and co) would have known that sales were crap though, must be more to the story.

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Very tough for Fenech, but it doesn't really sound like Shane was in bad faith or anything here to me:dontknow: If he was due the other 700 grand in writing before the fight, regardless of how absurd his making a million for the fight may have been, he has no obligation to fight without getting it. Seems like Fenech may have made the biggest error in judgement, this Warton promoter must have talked him into it somehow to cut his losses. Surely they(Mosley, Fenech and co) would have known that sales were crap though, must be more to the story.

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Yeah but when you put it all together its starting to stink a little on Shanes part and I hate to say that because I really like him and gave up on Mundine years ago after starting out as a big fan.

I mean why the 300 grand down payment to begin with? Did he have some pressing bill. And the 100 grand expenses? Seriously that's simply outrageous. Just because he never got the pay on time does not mean he was not going to get paid. As it turns out Mundines ticket sales are always bad but its the ppv numbers that make it up and again Shane was fronted half the money already. The contract demands from the get go look excessive makes makes the ending dubious at best. I agree that there must be much more to this story.

Maybe Shane was simply brought up to date on Mundines lack of drawing power and demanded the guarantee in case exactly this happened. That doesn't mean he wasn't hopeful that it would still sell or the promoters would gamble on it and pay him, he obviously needs to the money after all. It's not as if he'd rather waste his time training and making the trip to Australia for 300k than go through with the fight for a full million, which was his guarantee before the fight. It's a promoters job to project revenues and pay the fighters a fraction of that, if they fuck up to this point I don't see how the blame lies with anyone else. I'd bet Fenech just got fleeced royally by this Wharton character one way or another.

Well the whole thing stinks and I've been a fan of Shane since before he was lw champ.

A 300 thousand dollar down payment on services not rendered.
Over a 100 thousand dollars for expenses not yet incurred.
The balance of the million dollar purse paid in full two days before the bell rings.
A guarantee given and then refused even though they already in good faith paid half up front.
He goes home with 400 k in his pocket for doing sweet F all.

To me that's a scum bag.

You could well be right, maybe Shane knew this was a good possibility during/after negotiations. Still doesn't change that he's just the boxer, if there wasn't a much bigger scumbag or two involved I don't see how this would’ve went down. How uncommon is it to demand your purse before a fight overseas really? I have no idea.

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Well the whole thing stinks and I've been a fan of Shane since before he was lw champ.

A 300 thousand dollar down payment on services not rendered.
Over a 100 thousand dollars for expenses not yet incurred.
The balance of the million dollar purse paid in full two days before the bell rings.
A guarantee given and then refused even though they already in good faith paid half up front.
He goes home with 400 k in his pocket for doing sweet F all.

To me that's a scum bag.

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Shane was going to walk away ages ago because there was loads of evidence the fight was in trouble, ticket sales etc. So they paid him the 300K up front and he arranged to have the rest paid before the fight. The other people agreed to that , then failed to keep their side of the agreement. There was zero chance he was going to get paid after the fight so he went home. What's the problem?

Also, he's had a training camp for this fight and has taken a bunch of people over there with him. He's obviously spent lots of money getting ready for the fight. It'll be in the contract that he's reimbursed for that too. Shane isn't the problem here unless you think he should fight for 30% of the amount he agreed to and then hope somehow he gets the rest after the fight.

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Well the whole thing stinks and I've been a fan of Shane since before he was lw champ.

A 300 thousand dollar down payment on services not rendered.
Over a 100 thousand dollars for expenses not yet incurred.
The balance of the million dollar purse paid in full two days before the bell rings.
A guarantee given and then refused even though they already in good faith paid half up front.
He goes home with 400 k in his pocket for doing sweet F all.

To me that's a scum bag.

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Shane was going to walk away ages ago because there was loads of evidence the fight was in trouble, ticket sales etc. So they paid him the 300K up front and he arranged to have the rest paid before the fight. The other people agreed to that , then failed to keep their side of the agreement. There was zero chance he was going to get paid after the fight so he went home. What's the problem?

Also, he's had a training camp for this fight and has taken a bunch of people over there with him. He's obviously spent lots of money getting ready for the fight. It'll be in the contract that he's reimbursed for that too. Shane isn't the problem here unless you think he should fight for 30% of the amount he agreed to and then hope somehow he gets the rest after the fight.

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Mundines venues make the money looking at past events on ppv. He draws huge for whatever reason. The problem with your opening premise is that it even makes look like more of a scum bag for taking the money off Fenech.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Just heard about this, what a shady business boxing is. If Mosley was guaranteed the amount up front and didn't get it he couldn't have had many other options, but why on earth did this all not come about until now? The promoter(s) must have either been praying that half the seats would sell out days before the fight, or that Mosley would fight even though his purse was withheld, and either is ridiculous.
Kind of funny that the end result is more satisfying for all though. Mosley gets a nice little chunk of cash for doing nothing, the promoters lose their money, and we don't have to see a shot hall of famer either struggle to beat Mundine or lose to the cunt.

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Hahaha! Well said.

Mundine really is a cunt isn't he?

Laughable that Mosley is in the wrong.

Danny Williams-Mike Tyson. Williams purse is $250,000. The night of the fight, whilst getting gloved up, he's told the promoter has gone bust, he's now getting $65,000 take it or leave it

Laughable that he's not. Oh legally he isn't.

No way is he blameless. Just weigh up intent.

Bit of a follow-up from Mosley's side of the story:

Sugar Shane Mosley slams Australian boxing as 'mafia' after failed Anthony Mundine fight | News.com.au

Unfortunately, a lot of what he says is true. Boxing in Australia is in a sad state of affairs and the whole system needs to be overhauled if we're to be taken seriously. Mundine has really damaged the sport, he needs to fuck off and retire.

And another follow up. Its apparently just a coincidence that the moment Shane stepped off the airplane he is being asked about a Dec date with fellow GBP stablemate Ortiz who's fight just happened to be canceled.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sp...-1226745576275

Its all just shady. On one hand I get the feel the promotion were played for fools and gbp and Shane went in with a wink and a nod from jump off. Why in THE hell are you chasing a non factor like Mundine across the ocean when you finally manage to regain traction, eek out a respectable win and obviously have bigger oppurtunity on the horizon with name and promotion?! I get covering expenses and time but I cannot see how they failed to get wind, a hint, an idea or feel that it was all in trouble and don't buy Mosley was shocked or caught blind. They knew it was faultering and just smells strung out for the guarantee. Knowing Fenech did a solid and made an attempt to ensure the general interest of all were meant and the match saved but gets to watch Mosley cash his check just doesn't sit well. Mosley pulled off the impossible and managed to do even less than he did in the Canelo or Pac fights and still pulls a payday. Brilliant! I feel like high fiving him and reading his tips but only by flashlight and taking a bleach shower afterwards. He may be over the hill, and he is, but he has options..still. Fenech got played like a sucker!

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No way is he blameless. Just weigh up intent.

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They played the whole thing out knowing the ship was sinking is how I see it. Who said Mosley has lost his slickness

Mosley is guaranteed 700k will be paid 10 days before the fight. Three days before the fight he still hasn't been paid so goes home. It's reported that only 1500 tickets have been sold (they need to sell 6000) and 1000 PPV buys (they need 80,000).

What's the problem? Do you want him to fight for 300k when he originally agreed to $1m? That's mad.

It's not his fault the promoters overvalued the fight in the first place. It's not his fault that Jeff Fenech bought into the promotion.

That's my take so far, half the reason promoters exist(to anyone’s benefit) is to make sure things like this don't happen. They obviously way overvalued the fight, made a guarantee they couldn't honour and yet people want to blame a guy who's been getting beat up for a living the last few years for all this. Is it possible Shane knew this could happen and wasn't opposed to the idea all along? Sure, but that doesn't mean he hoped for it, nor does it make him a scumbag imo. Who wouldn't take some crooked promoters money if they are giving it away. Even if Jeff Fenech mortgaged his house to cut Shane a personal cheque the blame still lies elsewhere as Mosley had nothing to do with reimbursing his expenses in any case and neither of them would've seen their money whether the fight went on or not

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Its all just shady. On one hand I get the feel the promotion were played for fools and gbp and Shane went in with a wink and a nod from jump off. Why in THE hell are you chasing a non factor like Mundine across the ocean when you finally manage to regain traction, eek out a respectable win and obviously have bigger oppurtunity on the horizon with name and promotion?! I get covering expenses and time but I cannot see how they failed to get wind, a hint, an idea or feel that it was all in trouble and don't buy Mosley was shocked or caught blind. They knew it was faultering and just smells strung out for the guarantee. Knowing Fenech did a solid and made an attempt to ensure the general interest of all were meant and the match saved but gets to watch Mosley cash his check just doesn't sit well. Mosley pulled off the impossible and managed to do even less than he did in the Canelo or Pac fights and still pulls a payday. Brilliant! I feel like high fiving him and reading his tips but only by flashlight and taking a bleach shower afterwards. He may be over the hill, and he is, but he has options..still. Fenech got played like a sucker!

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Exactly. People that think he is w/o fault here are well...........naive.

Even Jeff Fenech agrees with us "naive" people ;)

Jeff Fenech Rips on Mundine: "I Will Never Respect You Again" | Aus-Boxing