http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvuv78xC0KI
I can see what he means, they are both really easy to dislike but really he should stop beating around the bush and just come out and say what he really thinks. ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvuv78xC0KI
I can see what he means, they are both really easy to dislike but really he should stop beating around the bush and just come out and say what he really thinks. ;D
Billy Joe Saumders is full of shit, yeah Eubank jr fought a journeyman in his last fight on short notice but Mathew Hall was fighting at light middle last year and has been stopped 3 times;D
Saunders wont beat any of the top middles in Britain. He certainly wouldnt have done as well against Martinez as Murray did.
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Originally Posted by ross
That was the first time any of us had seen that Martinez, so I'm not sure how Billy Joe would have done against that Martinez.
Billy Joe can't crack an egg, has suspect stamina and has never fought anyone even remotely close to Martin Murray's class let alone Sergio Martinez. I can confidently say, even "that" version of Martinez would have chinned him out - quick.
As for the video, that was great stuff. No fucking about there, clearly have a history. Eubank jr-vs-BJS is a cracking fight between two good prospects albeit powderpuff punchers.
Saunders is faster and more accurate the Eubank Jr and would not surprise me if he beat him on points. Jr needs to be put on his arse to see what he is really made of. DeGale is pleading for Hennessey to let him fight him and he is not even in the same weight class, so Jr is obviously not making a lot of friends ;D
Don't you just love boxing, slagging off name calling pure hype bring it on.;D
At least he was honest but do not know why there is no much hate, they are not in the same weight class.
Saunders and Eubank are both middle weights. To be fair, Saunders doesn't look great at the weight and should move down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Eubanks jnr is a supermidleweight isin't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSaunders and Eubank are both middle weights. To be fair, Saunders doesn't look great at the weight and should move down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Nope, middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEubanks jnr is a supermidleweight isin't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSaunders and Eubank are both middle weights. To be fair, Saunders doesn't look great at the weight and should move down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Really did not realise.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNope, middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEubanks jnr is a supermidleweight isin't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSaunders and Eubank are both middle weights. To be fair, Saunders doesn't look great at the weight and should move down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
@Master, a similar thread was created ages ago about the beef between them, and I also thought he was a Super-Middle because he and his team targeted Degale. He is in fact a Middleweight though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterReally did not realise.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNope, middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEubanks jnr is a supermidleweight isin't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSaunders and Eubank are both middle weights. To be fair, Saunders doesn't look great at the weight and should move down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
When Saunders starts fighting ever other week he can say something.
I believe you, as I've never seen Saunders fight. I was just wondering why any decent middleweight would have been overwhelmed by that Martinez. His legs were gone, he looked ordinary and Murray should have won, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Martinez looked poor but Murray was also better than most thought. I'm pretty sure Martinez wouldn't have looked so poor against many other top class middleweights. (Saunders is just a prospect)Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI believe you, as I've never seen Saunders fight. I was just wondering why any decent middleweight would have been overwhelmed by that Martinez. His legs were gone, he looked ordinary and Murray should have won, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
BJS is garbage!
He has let me down in every fight I've seen him in and his last 2 fights were disasters.
I'd take a Eubank win all day!
Eubanks has been fighting at super middle but I guess he could campaign at middle when he gets started with his career. He is just playing at the moment. He will definitely be a world champion now. :)
How much money did you lose.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Don't you start betting, if you lose we will never here the end of it captain careful.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
OK I was being safe, he will be undisputed middleweight champion of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoDon't you start betting, if you lose we will never here the end of it captain careful.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I won on his last fight, but it was shit to watch lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoHow much money did you lose.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
I think Ryder beats BJS and Chris Jr. What I will say is fair play to Billy for the fights hes taking. Spike O Sullivan followed by Ryder. If he wins both of them it puts him in the mix as one of the best in Britain and will deserve a shot at any of the top 3.
I know it doesnt mean much but Macklin has never fought an unbeaten fight, Barker only has one and Murray 3 or 4. Billy has 1 with 2 more coming this year.
Unbeaten means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Barker and Macklin have both fought Martinez who wasn't undefeated, and is better than half the young undefeated fighters around.
I know that but Im just saying apart from the guys Barker, Macklin and Murray have lost too, they havent fought anyone that good. Look at Barkerts record, his best names are Kerry Hopeless and Danny Butler. Martin Murrays opponents have been extremely poor bar Sturm. Macklin has a few better with Alcine and Asikainen but still nothing too special. Ryder is probably as good as anyone the above 3 have beatenQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosUnbeaten means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Barker and Macklin have both fought Martinez who wasn't undefeated, and is better than half the young undefeated fighters around.
I feel you may be putting him ahead of where he is career wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI know that but Im just saying apart from the guys Barker, Macklin and Murray have lost too, they havent fought anyone that good. Look at Barkerts record, his best names are Kerry Hopeless and Danny Butler. Martin Murrays opponents have been extremely poor bar Sturm. Macklin has a few better with Alcine and Asikainen but still nothing too special. Ryder is probably as good as anyone the above 3 have beatenQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosUnbeaten means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Barker and Macklin have both fought Martinez who wasn't undefeated, and is better than half the young undefeated fighters around.
Ryder fought only 1 very average person in Eamon Okane and that was the only fighter he has fought that was unbeaten.
It was an Impressive win as I thought Okane would KO him.
I think you need to give him a few more fights before you can compare them all together mate.
Barker, Macklin and Murray all destroy him right now, maybe 5 or 6 more fights. He'll be British champion if he wins his next 2 and then a few defenses and a European shot and then it'll be fair to compare.
I agree. I'm saying there's potential. But I'm just saying that I think he beats anyone that the 3 big names have beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosI feel you may be putting him ahead of where he is career wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI know that but Im just saying apart from the guys Barker, Macklin and Murray have lost too, they havent fought anyone that good. Look at Barkerts record, his best names are Kerry Hopeless and Danny Butler. Martin Murrays opponents have been extremely poor bar Sturm. Macklin has a few better with Alcine and Asikainen but still nothing too special. Ryder is probably as good as anyone the above 3 have beatenQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosUnbeaten means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Barker and Macklin have both fought Martinez who wasn't undefeated, and is better than half the young undefeated fighters around.
Ryder fought only 1 very average person in Eamon Okane and that was the only fighter he has fought that was unbeaten.
It was an Impressive win as I thought Okane would KO him.
I think you need to give him a few more fights before you can compare them all together mate.
Barker, Macklin and Murray all destroy him right now, maybe 5 or 6 more fights. He'll be British champion if he wins his next 2 and then a few defenses and a European shot and then it'll be fair to compare.
What type of Brit is fucking called 'Billy Joe' anyway?!...
He's a pikey mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB