Matthysse has agreed to all but Garcia hedging
Matthysse: I Agreed To Garcia's Terms, They are Hesitant
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By Ernest Gabion
While the boxing world is captivated by the September 14th super fight between Floyd Mayweather and Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, there is another highly anticipated fight that fans have been speculating about with great enthusiasm.
On one side we have Lucas "The Machine" Matthysse. Matthysse burst on the boxing scene in grand fashion with a series of devastating performances, culminating with a demonstrative 3rd round stoppage of IBF Light Welterweight titlist Lamont Peterson this past May. Matthysse sports a record of 34 wins, 32 of those wins by knockout, with two disputed losses to Zab Judah and Devon Alexander
Ringside at Matthysse's victory over Peterson was the other half of this proposed light welterweight showdown, Danny "Swift" Garcia, who also made quite a splash upon boxing with a stellar 2012 that saw him grab both the WBA and WBC titles.
It seemed like a natural fit that The Machine and Swift would head to a clash sometime in the immediate future. Unlike past proposed dream match ups, this fight does not possess any of the hang ups that have stalled fights like Abner Mares vs Nonito Donaire from happening. Both have the same promoter and manager (Golden Boy Promotions and Al Haymon respectively), both are seemingly at or near their primes and both have taken on an accelerated ascent through the 140lb rankings.
However, as this article goes to print the fight has yet to materialize in spite of several key Golden Boy personnel stating this fight was close to happening. CEO of Golden Boy, Richard Schaefer, told BoxingScene.com's Rick Reeno that this fight was close to happening on proposed date of September 7th, with the Staples Center and Dodger Stadium, which are both located in Los Angeles, as possible venues. Golden Boy matchmaker Eric Gomez, appeared on Boxing Scene Radio and advised them that he was confident that the fight would take place and that Schaefer advised him to make this a priority.
Schaefer would later tell BoxingScene's Keith Idec that Garcia-Matthysse was likely moving away from the date of September 7, with a new date landing later in the fall.
"I have done everything in my power to make this fight with Danny Garcia and as of right now the hold up is with Garcia or his team" Matthysse told BoxingScene.com today "Everything on our side has been agreed upon all terms given to us seem to be fine with me and my team."
Matthysse has not been shy about his wishes for a Garcia and he affirmed that once again.
"We clearly have wanted this fight for sometime." Matthysse, "we clearly are doing everything we can to make this fight happen with Garcia but it seems to be Garcia or Garcia's team are the ones hesitant on making a fight with me for whatever reason"
As to why there is a hold up of this fight Matthysse is unsure. One thing that does not seem to be putting the fight on hold is the rumor that Matthysse had been hesitant on possible testing being proposed for a Garcia clash.
"I am not sure why this fight hasn't already been made it is not up to me to make Garcia agree. I can only take care of my side and my team and we have handled that. We have no problem with dates, we have no problem with money, and we have no problems with testing."
While they indeed have set their sites on Garcia they are willing to move on should Garcia pass on this fight.
"The WBC has mandated that Garcia is to fight Lucas for the title and we will abide by that," an advisor for Matthysse told me while translating for Matthysse. "If Garcia does indeed choose not to fight Lucas then we will ask the WBC to strip him of his title and Lucas will fight someone for the title once vacated but do not get us wrong we want to fight Garcia for that title"
Matthysse concluded his short interview with BoxingScene with assurances that he wants to back up his claims that he wants to prove he is the best.
"I have said I am the best fighter in my division and one of the best in the world. A win over Garcia would prove that and that's what we want to prove we are the best"
"I want the best, I want this fight, I want to show who Lucas Matthysse is. It's up to Danny now. He says he is the best. What better way to prove it than to fight each other?"
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Indeed and you have got to feel bad for Lucas as he purposely fought Lamont at 141 in order to preserve his #1 WBC ranking or as Jose likes to call it interim champion status. We could very well hear rumblings in the future about how he felt weak in the Judah fight.
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I just have the feeling Matthysse would agree to fight Garcia in the back of a Penske rental truck if it was offered and Garcia is stalling him off and not interested in the least. Sept. is already being kicked back and Garcia needs to sac up or he'll be known as "Swift" in more than one... :OhNo:
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Garcia needs to reach downstairs and find something that resembles his nutsack. Don't go on camera after Matthysse destroys a top contender and claim you're still #1 if you're not willing to prove it.
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Whenever a supposed champion in this kind of situation decides to have his belt stripped or drops it, his name ought to be stricken from the historic record of said title or a notation should be entered on the date they got it that states "won but never honoured"
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Apart from Khan, Garcia has fought noone of note. I think he will be beaten by the first decent opponent he faces.
If he steps up in weight Id say Bradley and Alexander would beat him quite easily but hed have a shot at beating Maidana. So maybe if Broner vacates him and Maidan fight for a vacant belt?
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IamInuit
Whenever a supposed champion in this kind of situation decides to have his belt stripped or drops it, his name ought to be stricken from the historic record of said title or a notation should be entered on the date they got it that states "won but never honoured"
Of all the ideas and rules I've heard, that people claim should be added to boxing, this is by a country mile the best!
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Whenever a supposed champion in this kind of situation decides to have his belt stripped or drops it, his name ought to be stricken from the historic record of said title or a notation should be entered on the date they got it that states "won but never honoured"
I'm increasingly thinking the same about guys who blow the weight and lose it on the scale.
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Garcia will have to fight matthysse otherwise the world will know he chickened out. His dad will be embarrassed.
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IamInuit
Whenever a supposed champion in this kind of situation decides to have his belt stripped or drops it, his name ought to be stricken from the historic record of said title or a notation should be entered on the date they got it that states "won but never honoured"
I'm increasingly thinking the same about guys who blow the weight and lose it on the scale.
Ditto
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Typical dumping on American fighters, Chavez Jr is a huge star and he muscled them for the date, which was over 2 months away. The earliest this fight can happen is September 28th due to the Floyd fight and replay on showtime, so that's 2 months and 3 weeks. This fight will need over 2 million for the purse so Showtime will pick a good date to buy it. Now if Danny announces another opponent okay but the fact that Danny is being called a coward for a fight over 11 weeks from now shows the absolute hate people have for American boxers.
Bullshit. I like alot of American fighters. I generally call fighters on their merit as do many on here. But Danny isn't exactly coming out to the media saying he really wants this fight. All we can go on is what we hear, and rumours are about he's looking for a Judah rematch rather than fighting Matthysse. Lucas has agreed to everything, and Danny's usually vocal camp are not disputing this, so if he has gone AWOL, what is his reason?
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Onetime
Typical dumping on American fighters, Chavez Jr is a huge star and he muscled them for the date, which was over 2 months away. The earliest this fight can happen is September 28th due to the Floyd fight and replay on showtime, so that's 2 months and 3 weeks. This fight will need over 2 million for the purse so Showtime will pick a good date to buy it. Now if Danny announces another opponent okay but the fact that Danny is being called a coward for a fight over 11 weeks from now shows the absolute hate people have for American boxers.
I don't care what nationality he is. This is bullshit period!
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck
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I have grown to really like Garcia. He arrived on the scene without a lot of hype. I still think it will be better for his career to fight and lose to Lucas than for him to dodge Lucas. I am sure there will be a lot of money on the table for these guys, hopefully that will bring this fight to pass. I am sure Garcia is aware that if he were to dodge this fight it would create much I'll will amongst his fans. Hopefully this is just the rumour mill and this fight is being planned. Not only would this fight not happening be bad for Danny I think it would be bad for boxing. All this cherry picking and dodging is not good for the sport. If Garcia does find some BS reason not to fight it will be interesting to hear Garcia's father's rants defending his son.
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Onetime
Typical dumping on American fighters, Chavez Jr is a huge star and he muscled them for the date, which was over 2 months away. The earliest this fight can happen is September 28th due to the Floyd fight and replay on showtime, so that's 2 months and 3 weeks. This fight will need over 2 million for the purse so Showtime will pick a good date to buy it. Now if Danny announces another opponent okay but the fact that Danny is being called a coward for a fight over 11 weeks from now shows the absolute hate people have for American boxers.
Bullshit. I like alot of American fighters. I generally call fighters on their merit as do many on here. But Danny isn't exactly coming out to the media saying he really wants this fight. All we can go on is what we hear, and rumours are about he's looking for a Judah rematch rather than fighting Matthysse. Lucas has agreed to everything, and Danny's usually vocal camp are not disputing this, so if he has gone AWOL, what is his reason?
So what will you say if he agrees to the fight? Nothing no apologies for screaming duck, Danny does not have a cowardly past, he was expected to lose to Khan and he said he would take the Lucas-Peterson winner so until he takes another fight there is no duck, I made the same claims about the Floyd-Canelo Fight and Floyd got no credit for the fight Lampley said if it happens , I think Showtime will offer so much for the fight that Danny is looking for a Broner type payday and it will happen.
Big fan of both Lucas and Danny. Fun fighters to watch. Philadelphia vs. Argentina. What's not to like? If Danny chooses another fight, it's a duck job. There's no way around it. HOWEVER, until Danny chooses another fight, let's not jump to conclusions that he is ducking Matthysse. I'll tell you what though, fans were clamoring for this fight before Lucas faced Peterson and before Garcia faced Judah. This one has already been built up; it doesn't need anymore time to marinate. I'm hoping Danny signs, as it has FOTY written all over it, and I would NOT count Danny out, although it is hard not to favor Matthysse.
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Onetime
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bzkfn
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Onetime
Typical dumping on American fighters, Chavez Jr is a huge star and he muscled them for the date, which was over 2 months away. The earliest this fight can happen is September 28th due to the Floyd fight and replay on showtime, so that's 2 months and 3 weeks. This fight will need over 2 million for the purse so Showtime will pick a good date to buy it. Now if Danny announces another opponent okay but the fact that Danny is being called a coward for a fight over 11 weeks from now shows the absolute hate people have for American boxers.
Bullshit. I like alot of American fighters. I generally call fighters on their merit as do many on here. But Danny isn't exactly coming out to the media saying he really wants this fight. All we can go on is what we hear, and rumours are about he's looking for a Judah rematch rather than fighting Matthysse. Lucas has agreed to everything, and Danny's usually vocal camp are not disputing this, so if he has gone AWOL, what is his reason?
So what will you say if he agrees to the fight? Nothing no apologies for screaming duck, Danny does not have a cowardly past, he was expected to lose to Khan and he said he would take the Lucas-Peterson winner so until he takes another fight there is no duck, I made the same claims about the Floyd-Canelo Fight and Floyd got no credit for the fight Lampley said if it happens , I think Showtime will offer so much for the fight that Danny is looking for a Broner type payday and it will happen.
He didnt take a Khan rematch which was offered and took a Morales rematch instead for a lot less money. Thats a strange thing for a boxer to do? The fact is people have said what Danny would do long before the Judah fight and it just looks like its gonna happen. After Lucas and Danny win, Danny will step up in weight to avoid Lucas. Lucas has agreed to everything so what is Danny waiting for?
AN escape goat
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Lets not forget an old judah beat lucas and gave danny problems.
Lucas might be only able to beat a certain type of fighter.
Either way, danny must take this fight or the abuse he will receive will be completely justfied.
I hear a lot of people put Judah down. Granted he is a bit long on the tooth but he is a slick boxer and he can box. Putting someone down because Judah gave them problems is selling Judah short. Granted my opinion may be biased as I am a big Judah fan.
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I can't get away from Judah as a common opponent between them. I still think Mattysse pulled it out with Zab and actually boxed him very well. I do think there is something to Matthysse really putting hurt on and knocking Judah around in the last three while on the other side Judah had Garcia on the retreat and showed the best three round close he has in a number of years at a 'high' level.
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bzkfn
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Onetime
Typical dumping on American fighters, Chavez Jr is a huge star and he muscled them for the date, which was over 2 months away. The earliest this fight can happen is September 28th due to the Floyd fight and replay on showtime, so that's 2 months and 3 weeks. This fight will need over 2 million for the purse so Showtime will pick a good date to buy it. Now if Danny announces another opponent okay but the fact that Danny is being called a coward for a fight over 11 weeks from now shows the absolute hate people have for American boxers.
Bullshit. I like alot of American fighters. I generally call fighters on their merit as do many on here. But Danny isn't exactly coming out to the media saying he really wants this fight. All we can go on is what we hear, and rumours are about he's looking for a Judah rematch rather than fighting Matthysse. Lucas has agreed to everything, and Danny's usually vocal camp are not disputing this, so if he has gone AWOL, what is his reason?
So what will you say if he agrees to the fight? Nothing no apologies for screaming duck, Danny does not have a cowardly past, he was expected to lose to Khan and he said he would take the Lucas-Peterson winner so until he takes another fight there is no duck, I made the same claims about the Floyd-Canelo Fight and Floyd got no credit for the fight Lampley said if it happens , I think Showtime will offer so much for the fight that Danny is looking for a Broner type payday and it will happen.
I'll say credit to him for taking the fight. I, like plenty of people gave Floyd a load of credit for taking the Canelo fight because he has a guaranteed deal, he could fight bums if he wanted to but he chose to give the fans what they wanted.
Danny has no history of ducking because he hasn't actually fought any fighter of note in his prime bar Khan and that you could give him real credit for. His biggest challenge in the division is Lucas. Lucas has been his interim Champion for a while and he has put the fight off. Lucas agreed weeks ago and Danny's usual vocal camp has said nothing. I bet he ducks it.
This is not hatred of American fighters. In fact, on this forum, British & Puerta Rican fighters take way more shit than Americans so I think your comment screaming racism against American fighters is just idiotic.
And just to show this isn't hatred of Danny, I'll shoot down @Silkeyjoe point.
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He didnt take a Khan rematch which was offered and took a Morales rematch instead for a lot less money.
He was contractually obliged to take the Morales rematch, Erik had a rematch clause.
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I stopped speculating whether or not a fighter is scared of so and so because it's ridiculous. Garcia is a young champion full of youthful energy and he's been fighting since he was a kid so to think that he's
" scared " to fight someone is ludacrious.
Mythese is overrated and Garcia can certainly beat him. It's really a 50-50 fight.
