Froch - Golovkin mid 2014?
I started talking about this in the fight chat thread but i do think this deserves its on thread. Apparently this is a fight that could be made next year and it would be a great fight to happen. Hearn is keen and so is Froch and I have no doubts GGG would be too.
I think GGG needs to try and clean up 160, he was impressive against macklin but he still needs the beat Martinez IMO to prove he's the best. Until he's done that he can't be known as the best. And there's still Barker/Geale, Murray and Quillen. But watching Barker and Murrays reaction in the studio after the win, I don't think they would be too interested in fighting Golvokin.
It will be interesting to see who steps up to him next but I do think he should stick around at 160 for time being. But before a Froch fight I think he needs to fight a top rated 168 fighter to see if his power can transform from 160 to 168. I was saying the last time a middleweight with high expectations (Abraham) moved up against the bigger fighters he wasn't big enough. His power wasn't enough to hurt Froch and he got outboxed.
I do think GGG is a lot better than Abraham though, but Abraham still was a very good champion in his day at 160 and I think a lot of people thought he would have done a lot better at 168, but it wasn't to be. It will be interesting to see if GGG power is still effective at 168 like it is at 160. I've read a lot of heavy fighters like Ola Afolabi seeing his power is crazy so you would think his power would transfer up in weight, and that would no doubt make an interesting test for Froch.
I think GGG needs to test his power at 168 before a Froch fight though and if it still is devastating, then we no doubt will have fight of the year on are hands if Froch-GGG could happen. Frochs chin and boxing ability vs GGGs power would be such an interesting match up. I hope we can see it happen.
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It all depends whats available for GGG at 160. He should only fight Martinez, Quillin of Geale in my opinion. If he is to step up Id like to see him fight Chavez (possibly at a catchweight) before going for Froch.
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Be interesting to see what happens when he hits a guy that doesn't go away!
Also will he get stronger or weaker powerwise if he moves up.
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Tam Seddon
http://www.boxingscene.com/sergio-martinez-no-problem-facing-golovkin-2014--67227
Martinez wants a return fight and then is game for a GGG fight. I hope this fight happens!!
Sergio Martinez Has No Problem Facing Golovkin in 2014 - Boxing News
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Golovkin should stay at middleweight and unify, the reason he would be tempted to jump up in weight would be for the money as he is paid very little now. When he unifies and beats Sergio he will become a boxing star and can dictate terms against the super middleweights.
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golovkin should have warm up fight at 168 v a high level guy before he takes on the elite of 168 in my opinion..
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I cant remember his fight night weight but I think it was close to Alvarez. I don't think he's big enough for 168.
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Remember also gentlemen that Golovkin beat Bute and Dirrell in the amateurs fighting above 160.
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And also that weights do not transfer in the same way for all individuals from amateur to pro. Fighters don't fill out in the same way and you can get away with fighting bigger men who may have starved a bit based on the entire ridiculous format. Chances are guys like Bute and Dirrell filled out to where they are now and are still fighting a division under and GGG never changed all that much and his team probably realized that when they decided on middleweight.
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Originally Posted by
Tam Seddon
I started talking about this in the fight chat thread but i do think this deserves its on thread. Apparently this is a fight that could be made next year and it would be a great fight to happen. Hearn is keen and so is Froch and I have no doubts GGG would be too.
I think GGG needs to try and clean up 160, he was impressive against macklin but he still needs the beat Martinez IMO to prove he's the best. Until he's done that he can't be known as the best. And there's still Barker/Geale, Murray and Quillen. But watching Barker and Murrays reaction in the studio after the win, I don't think they would be too interested in fighting Golvokin.
It will be interesting to see who steps up to him next but I do think he should stick around at 160 for time being. But before a Froch fight I think he needs to fight a top rated 168 fighter to see if his power can transform from 160 to 168. I was saying the last time a middleweight with high expectations (Abraham) moved up against the bigger fighters he wasn't big enough. His power wasn't enough to hurt Froch and he got outboxed.
I do think GGG is a lot better than Abraham though, but Abraham still was a very good champion in his day at 160 and I think a lot of people thought he would have done a lot better at 168, but it wasn't to be. It will be interesting to see if GGG power is still effective at 168 like it is at 160. I've read a lot of heavy fighters like Ola Afolabi seeing his power is crazy so you would think his power would transfer up in weight, and that would no doubt make an interesting test for Froch.
I think GGG needs to test his power at 168 before a Froch fight though and if it still is devastating, then we no doubt will have fight of the year on are hands if Froch-GGG could happen. Frochs chin and boxing ability vs GGGs power would be such an interesting match up. I hope we can see it happen.
Abraham was always overrated. But his problem when he moved up wasn't his lack of power. The power was there. His problem was his inactivity. You practically had to dare him to throw punches. He just wouldn't let his hands go. Before you know it he was down on points and on his way to a points loss
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At 5'10, GGG is too small. He even looks small at the weight he fights at. his power GGG fighting at 160 and above is a testament to how good he is cuz he's not big enough to move up.
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At 5'10, GGG is too small. He even looks small at the weight he fights at. his power GGG fighting at 160 and above is a testament to how good he is cuz he's not big enough to move up.
That's just fucking dumb. Chris Eubank was 5'10. Nigel Benn was 5'9. Sven Ottke was 5'10. Glen Johnson was 5'9 and champion at Light Heavyweight. Height doesn't mean shit. Golovkin clearly has the frame to carry 168
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bigstinkybug
At 5'10, GGG is too small. He even looks small at the weight he fights at. his power GGG fighting at 160 and above is a testament to how good he is cuz he's not big enough to move up.
That's just fucking dumb. Chris Eubank was 5'10. Nigel Benn was 5'9. Sven Ottke was 5'10. Glen Johnson was 5'9 and champion at Light Heavyweight. Height doesn't mean shit. Golovkin clearly has the frame to carry 168[/QUOT
man..open ur eyes ..or take ur head out ur ass, one or the other..so u can see... Golovkin is really small...
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This could be all academic as outside of Martinez as Chavez cant make it anymore there is really no high profile fights at 160 for GGG. Martinez is a world away and regardless of what that camp tweets or whatever, Martinez will be looking at cash after his tuneup. GGG might as well go for it as 168 is getting warn out and battle scared outside of Ward.
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bigstinkybug
man..open ur eyes ..or take ur head out ur ass, one or the other..so u can see... Golovkin is really small...
But his power is not. He'll do just fine at 168. Tyson was small for a heavyweight. Didn't mean shit
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i think there's good opposition at below 160..i'm a Canelo fan and GGG worries me... Martinez, Chavez... i think Trout will move up... and if May beats Canelo, i don't think he will, but if he does... Bika just won a title... the guy Bika fought, some mexican guy that was pretty good... maybe i'm wrong... maybe i need to open my eyes... but i see Golovkin very small in size... vs Froch, who's a big dude..or Ward... Kesslar... all solid light heavyweights..or super middleweights...whatever their calling it these days
i wonder how much GGG gains after the weigh in...
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You have to love Abel Sanchez's description of Golovkin in the gym, "We've been working on the body shots because you know when he hits someone in the head, it's serious injury, and with the body we put body armor on the sparring partners."
Video: Sanchez talks Golovkin evolution, future | RingTV
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Showtime are basically the GBP channel. Golovkin and Froch are therefore basically HBO fighters by default as HBO need attractive fights to show and Golovkin and Froch want US TV money.
Froch is probably going to fight Groves next and around the same time Kessler will probably fight somebody he can look good against to get a win. I think they'll fight each other after that. Golovkin might fight somebody at 168 next to see how he is at the weight but you can definitely see HBO wanting to match him and Froch at some point. It's definitely got FOTY potential.
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Kirkland Laing
Showtime are basically the GBP channel. Golovkin and Froch are therefore basically HBO fighters by default as HBO need attractive fights to show and Golovkin and Froch want US TV money.
Froch is probably going to fight Groves next and around the same time Kessler will probably fight somebody he can look good against to get a win. I think they'll fight each other after that. Golovkin might fight somebody at 168 next to see how he is at the weight but you can definitely see HBO wanting to match him and Froch at some point. It's definitely got FOTY potential.
Absolutely. It's got FOTY written all over it.
