Chris Eubank was a true champion. I miss this kind of fighter.
He was a beast in terms of defending his title and activity.
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1990 - 6 FIGHTS - won the WBO middleweight title.
1991 - 4 FIGHTS - defended WBO middleweight world title 3 times and won WBO super middleweight title.
1992 - 5 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 5 times.
1993 - 3 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title, had a draw for WBC title.
1994 - 6 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 6 times.
He lost the WBO to Steve Collins in 1995, but his activity puts every world champion now to shame?
I miss boxing.
24 fights and 19 title defenses in 4 years.
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A classic boxing champion. He only cared for the money, 'generally' fighting weak opposition, for good money. He worked the boxing fan, both casual and hardcore superbly and was not scared to play the villain to get a few more £££'s.
And to be fair to him he still is working us, as we often reminisce about him and compare him favourable with the fighters of this era.
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He was a beast in terms of defending his title and activity.
Check this
1990 - 6 FIGHTS - won the WBO middleweight title.
1991 - 4 FIGHTS - defended WBO middleweight world title 3 times and won WBO super middleweight title.
1992 - 5 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 5 times.
1993 - 3 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title, had a draw for WBC title.
1994 - 6 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 6 times.
He lost the WBO to Steve Collins in 1995, but his activity puts every world champion now to shame?
I miss boxing.
24 fights and 19 title defenses in 4 years.
For me though, a true Champion takes on all comers and he has openly admitted that fighting Toney or Roy Jones would have been 'suicide' so he is openly admitting he ducked them. In boxing we want to see the best fight the best and I think despite his wars with Benn & Watson, this will always ring true with me that he walked away from 2 big challenges. He put on some great fights though and was a great entertainer. I don't think much of his son mind, can't get my head around why everyone thinks he's great, he looks average with little power to me.
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Vendettos
He was a beast in terms of defending his title and activity.
Check this
1990 - 6 FIGHTS - won the WBO middleweight title.
1991 - 4 FIGHTS - defended WBO middleweight world title 3 times and won WBO super middleweight title.
1992 - 5 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 5 times.
1993 - 3 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title, had a draw for WBC title.
1994 - 6 FIGHTS - defended WBO super middleweight title 6 times.
He lost the WBO to Steve Collins in 1995, but his activity puts every world champion now to shame?
I miss boxing.
24 fights and 19 title defenses in 4 years.
For me though, a true Champion takes on all comers and he has openly admitted that fighting Toney or Roy Jones would have been 'suicide' so he is openly admitting he ducked them. In boxing we want to see the best fight the best and I think despite his wars with Benn & Watson, this will always ring true with me that he walked away from 2 big challenges. He put on some great fights though and was a great entertainer. I don't think much of his son mind, can't get my head around why everyone thinks he's great, he looks average with little power to me.
I agree about the power, but he has some skills and speed, enough to be effective, he has more KOs than his dad had after the same amount of fights.
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I'm a big fan of Eubank. To me, his fights with Benn are legendary, and he proved that he had a ton of heart and an iron jaw in the process.
He had skill, speed, toughness, and respectable power, and had an unorthodox style.
Would have loved to see him fight Roy Jones. I don't think he'd win, but it would have been an interesting matchup.
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I'm a big fan of Eubank. To me, his fights with Benn are legendary, and he proved that he had a ton of heart and an iron jaw in the process.
I too was a huge Eubank fan, particularly when it was not popular to be one. And although the first Benn fight was a bona fide British 'classic'; I went to fight two, and to this day thought it was a bit boring.
Both had too much respect for each other, and the reason it was interesting was its closeness. Although from my nosebleed seat I had it 10-2 Benn, watching it on TV I had it 7/5 Benn.
You are right about Eubank's chin, but he was a bit soft in the belly sometimes...
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My mistake, I don't remember the 2nd fight. Should have said the first one was legendary! haha
His KO's of Jarvis and Dos Santos were some of the best I ever seen. He could really crack when he wanted to, but I guess the Watson fight took away a lot of his killer instinct.
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It was impressive, compared with the fighters today, that Eubank defended his title so regular, but lets not forget a lot of those fights were utter shit, and as Britkid said, against poor opposition. You wouldn't get away with that in this current era with TV companies or fans.
To Eubank's credit, for a man that "disliked boxing," it seemed the tougher the fighter the better he fought, and without doubt he had massive heart and bollocks.
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Benn-Eubank II is generally seen as a let down by fans old enough to remember all the hype and build-up and what not (I viewed it like that too). However, imagine if it happened in these times, when every fight every week from all over the world is readily witnessed, instead of a time when boxing on TV was pretty sparse, and you only saw whatever the TV stations decided to show, we'd probably not have viewed it half as harshly.
The majority of fights, week in week out, regardless of how good the fighters are, don't live up to expectations.
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Beanflicker
My mistake, I don't remember the 2nd fight. Should have said the first one was legendary! haha
His KO's of Jarvis and Dos Santos were some of the best I ever seen. He could really crack when he wanted to, but I guess the Watson fight took away a lot of his killer instinct.
The Dos Santos KO with Eubank strutting and tapping his gloves together, was what made him to the casual fans, I think. As it was such a short fight it could be shown constantly in building up the first Benn fight. And as you rightly point out, the bout lived up to all the hype.
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I'm a big Benn fan as well. Would have loved to see him vs Julian Jackson at MW.
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I'm a big Benn fan as well. Would have loved to see him vs Julian Jackson at MW.
At 160? Ouch. In 1988/91 Jackson's eye was an issue, but that did not stop him flattening Norris and Graham. The Hawk's chin was also pretty solid at the time (McCallum aside, who was rather special and could bang at 154). Benn had not yet developed the 'cuteness' that made him a better fighter (IMO) at 168. As brilliant as he was fighting fire with fire against DeWitt, Barkley, Logan et al, I do not see Benn being 'stung' into action against Jackson; I see him getting flattened.
But I would have loved to have seen it. And knowing my pretty shocking record in predicting fights, maybe Benn wins...
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Somebody would have woke up on their back staring at the ceiling (probably Benn but you never know)
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Eubanks had a truly great chin and heart and his wins against Benn and Watson defined his legacy. However he was vulnerable and not subsequently as good after the Watson fight. Eubanks avoided Herol Graham, Toney and Jones because they would give him problems and he could make more money defending his WBO title forever.
I think Froch v Eubanks would be a classic war.
The Eubanks that fought Benn the first time would beat Golovkin.
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Eubanks had a truly great chin and heart and his wins against Benn and Watson defined his legacy. However he was vulnerable and not subsequently as good after the Watson fight. Eubanks avoided Herol Graham, Toney and Jones because they would give him problems and he could make more money defending his WBO title forever.
I think Froch v Eubanks would be a classic war.
The Eubanks that fought Benn the first time would beat Golovkin.
Lets get it right,
EVERYBODY avoided Herol Graham.
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Lets get it right,
EVERYBODY avoided Herol Graham.
But Graham did not avoid Jackson's right...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYHq-MUXANg
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Fair Comment, but I can't find Jackson on Eubank, Watson, Benn, Collins or Calslappy's list of opponents!
There were some great fights out there and I enjoyed them all, but I think we thought the middleweight division was ours and had some 'set up' UK only fights, all excluding Bomber Graham. Nigel was the most adventurous in terms of risky opponents and deserves credit for it. Eubank was quality and deserved his fame, I only wish Chris Junior could hit a bit harder! But perhaps Sebastian will deliver the Eubank message at heavyweight.
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nuggetdotcom
Fair Comment, but I can't find Jackson on Eubank, Watson, Benn, Collins or Calslappy's list of opponents!
There were some great fights out there and I enjoyed them all, but I think we thought the middleweight division was ours and had some 'set up' UK only fights, all excluding Bomber Graham. Nigel was the most adventurous in terms of risky opponents and deserves credit for it. Eubank was quality and deserved his fame, I only wish Chris Junior could hit a bit harder! But perhaps Sebastian will deliver the Eubank message at heavyweight.
Graham was a phenomenon, but timing was never his forte in boxing politics. Watson, Benn and Eubank were on the up in the late 80s, Graham was established world class, there was no real time where a match between Graham and any other of them was really on the table.
When Graham came back he looked shocking in his first couple of bouts. The Johnson fight was amazing, a huge upset. But in mid 97 Benn and of course Watson had retired, Eubank was fighting in the Middle East and Calzaghe had yet to step to the top level. There really was no opportunity for Graham to realistically fight any of them.
As for Chris Jr, you need to give it time, the kid is a novice. He clearly has a bit of class, and as he physically gets more mature, there may be an improvement in his power.
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Britkid
Fair Comment, but
I can't find Jackson on Eubank, Watson, Benn, Collins or Calslappy's list of opponents!
There were some great fights out there and I enjoyed them all, but I think we thought the middleweight division was ours and had some 'set up' UK only fights, all excluding Bomber Graham. Nigel was the most adventurous in terms of risky opponents and deserves credit for it. Eubank was quality and deserved his fame, I only wish Chris Junior could hit a bit harder! But perhaps Sebastian will deliver the Eubank message at heavyweight.
They didn't just fear The Hawk. They were scared to death of him.
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Eubank was my favorite British fighter but I dont think he's better than the American elites such as Toney and Roy..
He's better than Hopkins though..
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The fights eubanks had with Benn and Watson finished him off, he was on cruise control after that making as much money possible from the least resistant WBO/sky could find for him. He earned his right to do that because those fights were brutal.
That version of Eubanks had a chance against Jones and Toney, not saying he would win, but he had a chance.
