Or if Bradley somehow beats Marquez does this lead to a Mayweather fight?
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Or if Bradley somehow beats Marquez does this lead to a Mayweather fight?
For me, it's really hard to picture a JMM/PBF rematch. It'd be different if it was a close, compeditive fight the first time, but PBF really showed that he was a class above JMM in that fight.
Now I know people will say "WELL FLOYD WAS THE BIGGER MAN, NOW JMM IS BIGGER SO ITS DIFFERENT". Bullshit. Floyd didn't beat JMM with size, he beat him with skill and speed. What JMM does, Floyd does much better.
In the event of a Bradley victory? I think that's an interesting fight for Floyd at WW. I don't give Bradley much of a chance, but on paper it's a reasonable fight.
Marquez specifically stated he doesn't want that fight, he knows he will lose "everyone saw what happened on 2009, its best he goes his way and i go mine" his words. bigger or juiced up it doesn't matter, he never wins that fight. Guys that are a threat to Floyd are the bigger guys cuz anybody his size doesn't really stand a chance. But i do think a Bradley fight would be amazing to watch cuz i dont think Floyd has fought anyone like Bradley, he comes to win and that will make it fun. And i think people forget bradley beat some good guys and was in there with one of the greats of our time. i personally think hes underrated. Still floyd batters him late, but itd be a good fight with things we havent seen before.
What @Boxer4life said.
Also, the TR/GBP and as a result the Showtime/HBO battle means that neither fight would be fighting Floyd in any case. If you're a TR fighter, you aint getting the Floyd fight, period.
If Marquez beats Bradley and Pacquiao beats Rios, we're going to see one more Pacquiao-Marquez fight. The other opponent could be the winner of Alvarado and Provodnikov.
If Marquez stops Bradley then it will be an easy choice for Mayweather to pad out his lengthy 'obligation' with his new network.
Pac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Marquez doesn't need Floyd right now, and vice versa. He did to Manny what Mayweather "woulda-shoulda-coulda" if only those two divas had not worried more about a huge pissing contest. When Marquez beats and or tkos Bradley :-X I'd like to see him think about a ring exit. Mayweather would box the bald off Bradley.
It would be a good oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I would love to see a mayweather/bradley fight more than any other fight but bob arum is top rank and still owes floyd money.
Mayweather may take the Marquez/Bradley winner when he loses Canelo in sept. just to show ppl he is not finished! And then hopefully someone will finish him!
AGREE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's ashame Bradley is with TR, and ever other fighter is with GBP. If Bradely win, he gotta hope for Rios to beat Pacman. That's his only real fight worth a little bit a money. Other then that . . .
1. Keith Thurman is #1 contender for WBO title
2. Broner is in the lime light and COULD generate a lot on money
3. Matthysee(if he beat Garcia), would be a great fight
4. Garcia(If he beat Matthysee), would be a great fight
5. Khan(if he beat Alexander) would have a title and they was suppose to fight years ago. BIG MONEY
6. Alexander(after he beat Khan)rematch for WBO and IBF titles on the line.
7. If Guerrero andn Ortiz fight, that winner would be a good match up for Bradley.
8. And last, Berto
Unfortunately all are with GBP
BTW, if JMM win the only fight I would like to see him in, is with Broner(if he defeat someone that's legit) or the winner of Garcia vs Matthsee. Other then that, RETIRE WITH HIS HEAD UP.
Maybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
You know, it is an interesting prospect to see Bradley vs Mayweather and lets not pull a Roy Jonesitis and say Mayweather wins by default. Bradley has an awkward crowding style which makes counter punching difficult since the space required for Mayweather to pop shot will be hard to maintain. However since it is Mayweather and he is damn good and arguably hits harder than Bradley it is a pretty solid fight, for me personally that fought will have intrigue.
I'm a big Bradley guy, as he reps the Inland Empire in California, but he's too small to beat Mayweather. I think it would be a wide UD, or a Mayweather stoppage, depending on what the Provodnikov fight took out of Bradley. If Bradley gets in a war with Marquez, we might have seen the best of Bradley.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
This is going to play out with with the winner of Marquez/Bradley and Pacquiao/Rios fighting each other.
Bradley-Mayweather wouldn't be the most terrible match, I just have a hard time seeing Bradley bringing anything menacing to Floyd. He consitantly gets stuck between styles and off of a literal battering at times...I have no idea how he'll be after Provodkin Hell. His hustle and activity are his bread & butter but Mayweather is just to sharp and accurate and he can leave Bradley in a state of constanty resetting himself. Can even see Floyd being much more physical in spots with him, as he can be boxed in without too much difficulty. Its hypothetical now, as I think Marquez can exploit some of the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Meaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Miracle punch?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Stop being bitter and grow up.
Dont discredit marquez achievements..was the first knockdown a miracle punch as well.?
Get over it and accept a bloodied, 40 year old mexican lightweight counter punched and destroyed pac.
Pac respects marquez..so should you.
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Originally Posted by impMiracle punch?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Stop being bitter and grow up.
Dont discredit marquez achievements..was the first knockdown a miracle punch as well.?
Get over it and accept a bloodied, 40 year old mexican lightweight counter punched and destroyed pac.
Pac respects marquez..so should you.
What are you talking about, first off I am not a fan of either Marquez or Pac , it seems that you get some perverted satisfaction of Marquez winning the fight, what I mean by MIRACLE punch is that Marquez was getting blasted and he looked like he was going to get knocked out at any minute, then he landed a counter punch that knocked Pac out cold despite never being known as a fighter with much punching power, if that's not a miracle then what the hell is.
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Originally Posted by impMiracle punch?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Stop being bitter and grow up.
Dont discredit marquez achievements..was the first knockdown a miracle punch as well.?
Get over it and accept a bloodied, 40 year old mexican lightweight counter punched and destroyed pac.
Pac respects marquez..so should you.
What are you talking about, first off I am not a fan of either Marquez or Pac , it seems that you get some perverted satisfaction of Marquez winning the fight, what I mean by MIRACLE punch is that Marquez was getting blasted and he looked like he was going to get knocked out at any minute, then he landed a counter punch that knocked Pac out cold despite never being known as a fighter with much punching power, if that's not a miracle then what the hell is.
What you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
As much as i would like to see marquez beat up again, i dont know how many times i have to tell you guys ....MARQUEZ DOES NOT WANT THE REMATCH!
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Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
Marquez face was destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
Thats what makes a great mexican warrior. He took his fair share but still knocked pac out in a beautiful timed countershot.
Get over it.
Marquez knocked him down earlier in the fight as well and was prepared to die in that ring.
Marquez walking on water is a miracle. Marquez knocking out pac in fourth fight is boxing smart.
Stop talking crap and give marquez the respect he deserves.
Top Rank merry go round Bradley v JMM v winner of Pac Man v Rios. They should mix it with the GBP fighters.
And GBP with theirs. It's a shame. The only people who lose out are the fans. But, hey, at the same time, this has been a great year for fights without them doing business together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That does not mean he was taking the beating you described. He was behind no doubt but he was behind in two of the three previous fights. Lots of fighters mark up easy because of scar tissue and a host of other reasons. Marquez probably bruises his cheek when he turns his head over on the pillow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
Miracle punch lol.
Do people still believe in lucky punches? wtf...
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Originally Posted by impMarquez face was destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
Thats what makes a great mexican warrior. He took his fair share but still knocked pac out in a beautiful timed countershot.
Get over it.
Marquez knocked him down earlier in the fight as well and was prepared to die in that ring.
Marquez walking on water is a miracle. Marquez knocking out pac in fourth fight is boxing smart.
Stop talking crap and give marquez the respect he deserves.
I am starting to think that you rubbed one off after the fight, you have some weird perversion about Pac getting beat.
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Originally Posted by IamInuitThat does not mean he was taking the beating you described. He was behind no doubt but he was behind in two of the three previous fights. Lots of fighters mark up easy because of scar tissue and a host of other reasons. Marquez probably bruises his cheek when he turns his head over on the pillow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
If Marquez can land this type of punch on Pac he can land that punch on Mayweather, so if he beats Bradley he should get another shot Mayweather.
that was just as stupid statement as can be. and im going to keep saying this until you guys get it, marquez got the shit kicked out of him so bad the first time, that he , himself, said he would NOT want to fight mayweather again. Meaning even he, a world class fighter, doesnt think he can beat mayweather. Hes lost, and at this point avoiding anyone who can put a whoppin oon him, mayweather and paaciou included, those streroids changed him, made him unsure of himself mentally, wouldnt be surprised if feather fisted bradley knock him outQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat does not mean he was taking the beating you described. He was behind no doubt but he was behind in two of the three previous fights. Lots of fighters mark up easy because of scar tissue and a host of other reasons. Marquez probably bruises his cheek when he turns his head over on the pillow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
If Marquez can land this type of punch on Pac he can land that punch on Mayweather, so if he beats Bradley he should get another shot Mayweather.
It sounds like it would hurt your feelings if Marquez laid him out, and you don't even want to think about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4lifethat was just as stupid statement as can be. and im going to keep saying this until you guys get it, marquez got the shit kicked out of him so bad the first time, that he , himself, said he would NOT want to fight mayweather again. Meaning even he, a world class fighter, doesnt think he can beat mayweather. Hes lost, and at this point avoiding anyone who can put a whoppin oon him, mayweather and paaciou included, those streroids changed him, made him unsure of himself mentally, wouldnt be surprised if feather fisted bradley knock him outQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat does not mean he was taking the beating you described. He was behind no doubt but he was behind in two of the three previous fights. Lots of fighters mark up easy because of scar tissue and a host of other reasons. Marquez probably bruises his cheek when he turns his head over on the pillow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
If Marquez can land this type of punch on Pac he can land that punch on Mayweather, so if he beats Bradley he should get another shot Mayweather.
Given the fact that top stank and GBP have their boners pointing in different directions...i'd say no. Bradley -Mayweather would be an interesting one though
Only a child would respond in that fashion. Stick to the script.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impMarquez face was destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
Thats what makes a great mexican warrior. He took his fair share but still knocked pac out in a beautiful timed countershot.
Get over it.
Marquez knocked him down earlier in the fight as well and was prepared to die in that ring.
Marquez walking on water is a miracle. Marquez knocking out pac in fourth fight is boxing smart.
Stop talking crap and give marquez the respect he deserves.
I am starting to think that you rubbed one off after the fight, you have some weird perversion about Pac getting beat.
Pac being beat is nothing new.
Did you see any of the previous fights pac had with marquez?
That should give you an idea on how close these fights have always been and either fighter could have won the fourth but imho marquez is a smarter fighter and threw the smart punch.
It would hurt my feelings yes, because marquez is a coward. but the reason i said what i said was to say that if manny can be landed on that means floyd can be landed on is just a silly stupid statement. Manny is offensive minded, and was always hittable, mayweather is almost impossible to catch clean. Especially with a punch like that. And ill say it again, not even marquez thinks he can beat him, so what make you think he can? come on guy, wake the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceIt sounds like it would hurt your feelings if Marquez laid him out, and you don't even want to think about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4lifethat was just as stupid statement as can be. and im going to keep saying this until you guys get it, marquez got the shit kicked out of him so bad the first time, that he , himself, said he would NOT want to fight mayweather again. Meaning even he, a world class fighter, doesnt think he can beat mayweather. Hes lost, and at this point avoiding anyone who can put a whoppin oon him, mayweather and paaciou included, those streroids changed him, made him unsure of himself mentally, wouldnt be surprised if feather fisted bradley knock him outQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat does not mean he was taking the beating you described. He was behind no doubt but he was behind in two of the three previous fights. Lots of fighters mark up easy because of scar tissue and a host of other reasons. Marquez probably bruises his cheek when he turns his head over on the pillow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWhat you have to do is two fold. Stop asserting that Marquez was getting the shit kicked out of him and two, stop referring to what can only be described as a perfect lead/counter as a miracle punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceMeaning that just because you think Mayweather will outclass him again does not mean he does not have the capability to land a miracle punch like he did against Pac, so yes we deserve a rematch like if he beats BradleyQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMaybe so but I don't know what that has to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RicePac was beating him down before he landed that miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Did you happen to see Marquez face
If Marquez can land this type of punch on Pac he can land that punch on Mayweather, so if he beats Bradley he should get another shot Mayweather.
After he puts Bradley in his place, he should try to get the winner of Garcia-Mythesse even though the timeline is off and assuming one of them dont have a fight set up with FLoyd already..
In Marquez' own words, he's never fighting Floyd again so let's not waste time talking about that.. Maybe Im just bias because Marquez is my favorite fighter but it was kind of refreshing to hear a fighter make such an honest assessment of himself..
Marquez basically said that Floyd's style is all wrong for him so he has no intentions of fighting him in a rematch. That's very honest of him..
Marquez against the winner of Garcia-Mythesse would be cracking..
Only a child would respond in that fashion. Stick to the script.
Pac being beat is nothing new.
Did you see any of the previous fights pac had with marquez?
That should give you an idea on how close these fights have always been and either fighter could have won the fourth but imho marquez is a smarter fighter and threw the smart punch.[/QUOTE]
It was a lucky punch, end of debate
It would hurt my feelings yes, because marquez is a coward. but the reason i said what i said was to say that if manny can be landed on that means floyd can be landed on is just a silly stupid statement. Manny is offensive minded, and was always hittable, mayweather is almost impossible to catch clean. Especially with a punch like that. And ill say it again, not even marquez thinks he can beat him, so what make you think he can? come on guy, wake the fuck up.[/QUOTE]
First you say it was a perfect counter punch, then you say its impossible for Floyd to get hit by it, sounds like a oxymoron to me, end of debate.
First you say it was a perfect counter punch, then you say its impossible for Floyd to get hit by it, sounds like a oxymoron to me, end of debate.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
I dont think your refering to me, never said any of what you say i said