Why didn't Lacey go after him. He let Joe do whatever he wanted. It's been a while since Ive seen this.
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Why didn't Lacey go after him. He let Joe do whatever he wanted. It's been a while since Ive seen this.
Brutal beat down Danny.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
Lacy lost that fight during the ringwalk ;-) I was there that night and it was 2am start with about 17,000 v drunk Brits ... Lacy looked like a little boy when he walked into the Arena
I've just watched it for the eighth time in dim lighting, sound muted and scored 115-113 for Calzaghe. Lacy didn't get credit for his style and Calzaghe just slapped excepting for the odd miracle punch. Lacy didn't get knocked out from those either. Marquez knocked out Pacquiao after Manny had been in with him for 3 times as long as Lacy against Calzaghe, and neither of those guys are American. Lacy was American. Steroids.
I remember that I couldn't believe that Jeff lost this fight. I still don't know why he didn't attack, even when he knew that he had to knock Calzaghe out, nothing came from his end. I thought those cuts were from punches too, not from head clashes, like lacy was claiming. Lacy was never the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
It's CALLED A Master full display of boxing, by Calzaghe he was many levels above Lacy,
Jeff was a monster puncher, and would eat Joe alive by the media, but it was not to be
he had his head boxed off, he took a bad beating and it Fucked him up simple.
Lacy was given the mantel of the second coming of Tyson, Lacy's corner were a Fucking
disgrace, for letting they fighter taking a career ending hiding and it did.!
Because every time he moved to attack Calzaghe shifted and hit him with 3 , 4 or 5 punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297I remember that I couldn't believe that Jeff lost this fight. I still don't know why he didn't attack, even when he knew that he had to knock Calzaghe out, nothing came from his end. I thought those cuts were from punches too, not from head clashes, like lacy was claiming. Lacy was never the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Lacy is the perfect example of media hype gone wrong. It's so important to take the right steps as a young fighter but Lacy was pushed too fast. U dont go from fighting the Sheikas and the pembertons of the division to stepping up to a world class talent like Calzaghe.. His handlers obviously had alot of faith in him and at the same time they didnt think much of Calzaghe but boy did they miscalculate..
Calzaghe was brilliant that night - absolutely on fire with his skill levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
115-113 really ? thats got to be 1 of the most 1 sided fights everQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I just watched some highlights after seeing this thread - Lacy did land a few decent punches early, but Calzaghe walked right through them.
Lacy was totally overwhelmed by the whole thing. He got a proper pub atmosphere reception and was well out of his comfort zone ... soon as JC landed a few he knew he as well out of his league and Calzaghe was on one ;-).
JC battered him silly all night long.
When you put your hands up around your face like that, you cannot punch back, and Lacy needed to punch while Calzaghe was punching. Instead, he tried to wait it out. But, as mentioned above, Calzaghe would throw a bunch of punches, then step over and throw a bunch more. Because he didn't know how to fight, because he never bothered to learn, Lacy didn't know what to do besides cover up and hope the other guy would get tired of hitting him.
i was there
it was nice, we bought shit seats and had a shit view, we watched macrinelli hobson and could hardly make out who was who so sacked it off and went to the bar
when we returned to our seats before the main event they were moving everyone closer because there were seats free near the front and they didnt want it to look empty for the TV
we were right at the front of the first level past the floor as the seating starts to rise, it was a very good view
I had lacy winning 2 rounds and thats very generous.
JC was going to pull out of the fight many times according to frank warren but the best boxer won.
JC has all the takent in the world i just wish he took a few more fights abroad like froch and khan seem to do and not let the 0 dictate his path.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Exactly - Lacy wasnt pushed too fast in terms of what he was meant to be able to handle and in fairness Calzaghe had beaten an ageing Eubank and got knocked down by Mitchell and someone else - admittingly getting up to win - but them and mario veit with close decisions vs brewer and reid - hell I would probably have made the same error and thought it would at the very least be a touch and go either way fight
Never understood what people saw in Lacy, his attack plan was as imaginative as his nickname. He went from the backyard pool to the Ocean only knowing how to dog paddle. He never developed past his flaws and you can't learn on the job when you are at that level. Calzaghe beat him up, it wasn't ever close.
Jeff was scared to get hit... I think Joe hit harder than many people gave him credit for. He may have been one of the more humane fighters in the history of boxing- it was obvious that if Joe had stepped on his punches a bit more, with a wide open Lacy on the attack, Joe could have knocked Lacy out from anywhere from the 4th round to the 8th- very easily.
The last round knock down was clear Joe could have ended Lacy, right then and there...
But, when you watch the fight, it wasn't as much of Lacy not doing enough- he simply could not do anything. Joe had him crushed by the 4th round- every time Lacy tried to come in, he was met with a barrage of punches.
Every time Lacy tried to get inside and hold, he was met with incoming fire and got out-going fire.
He simply was out-gunned.
Clearly the face of a man slapped half to death.
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Cal was a volume puncher who threw very smart punches... it wasn't throw just to be throwing... he had a plan and stuck to it. He was good enough defensively to take away what the other fighter wanted to do and he adjusted well, in my opinion, though he was often a slow starter. I didn't like him, but he was pretty under-rated. Lacy was outgunned - he didn't know what to throw because he didn't know where the punches coming back at him were coming from - he hadn't had a fight like that. Pretty well destroyed the aura of Lacy and it was all downhill from there.
Calzaghe started with a blisteringly fast pace, and Lacy's cornermen were thinkin' that Calzaghe couldn't keep up that pace and would slow down after 3 or 4 rds, but Calzaghe had superb conditioning that extremely few possess, and Calzaghe could maintain that blistering pace for a full 12 rds without slowing down nor getting tired. Very, very few have Calzaghe's level of stamina and conditioning, Pacquiao and Stevie Johnston did.
Another thing, Calzaghe had been Champ for almost 9 years when he totally outclassed Lacy.
In Calzaghe's earlier days, he was no Cal-Slappy; he was a KO puncher.
Dude's hands went bad, but he showed his calibre by totally changing his style into a high-paced, low-impact, volume puncher: man found another way to get the job done.
There's no denying that Calzaghe is more of a slapper than a proper puncher. It's hard to blame the guy cuz his hands are so brittle but it is what it is. I know many people are turned off by him due to his slapping style..Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Lacy's face was a mess but that's not because he got punched so many times. He got slapped but even slaps can damage your face if it lands enough for 12 rounds..
Calzaghe has brittle hands and he doesn't clinch his fists tightly all the time when punching.
Calzaghe punches with loose wrists. Bobo Olson did this as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaThere's no denying that Calzaghe is more of a slapper than a proper puncher. It's hard to blame the guy cuz his hands are so brittle but it is what it is. I know many people are turned off by him due to his slapping style..Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Lacy's face was a mess but that's not because he got punched so many times. He got slapped but even slaps can damage your face if it lands enough for 12 rounds..
Calzaghe has brittle hands and he doesn't clinch his fists tightly all the time when punching.
This shows how little you know about boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I don't know ANYBODY, personal friend, or worldwide renowned pundit that could even give Lacy one round, yet you gave him 5.
Chris Eubank said, his punches are kind of like slaps, but every single one of them hurt.
Or it shows how poor your comprehension is;DQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosThis shows how little you know about boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I don't know ANYBODY, personal friend, or worldwide renowned pundit that could even give Lacy one round, yet you gave him 5.
Chris Eubank said, his punches are kind of like slaps, but every single one of them hurt.
Oh he had softer hands after about the time of Shieka but that's from breaking them knocking people out. He had one of the best ko% in the game for quite some time. The whole Calslappy thing got taken way out to the cosmos not unlike Lewis's weak chin or Tito's. The two punches that stopped Lewis would have stopped a farm tractor and Tito had a balance issue and got knocked down because of it. He would then get up and destroy his opponent. Cal still hurt people even if he had to change punch direction. I bet Kessler would say he didn't slap.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaThere's no denying that Calzaghe is more of a slapper than a proper puncher. It's hard to blame the guy cuz his hands are so brittle but it is what it is. I know many people are turned off by him due to his slapping style..Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Lacy's face was a mess but that's not because he got punched so many times. He got slapped but even slaps can damage your face if it lands enough for 12 rounds..
Calzaghe has brittle hands and he doesn't clinch his fists tightly all the time when punching.