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I wonder who Dereck Chisora will fight on September 21?
There will likely eventually be a Boytsov-Chisora fight for the EBU heavyweight title, but that might not be next.
Magomed Abdusalamov's manager says he's willing to make Abdusalamov-Chisora.
In my opinion, Takam, Pianeta, Perez, Browne, Solis, Wach or Wilder would make for an interesting matchup. I just hope it's not old Audrey Harrison, that would be pointless.
Wouldn't want Wach to get another shot, he's a cheater
Chisora would be good for Wilder, but Abdusalamov...that'll make a very good fight for tv and I think Del Boy can win that one as Magomed gets hit too much
Why does Chisora get so much attention ????
Because he's fought five good heavyweights (Scott, Helenius, Fury, Haye, Vitali).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Deontay Wilder has more fights than Chisora, but has yet to fight a single live opponent.
Toney, Tua, Wilder, Mansour or Ruiz Jr.
Some hammerhead sharks, in a tank.
Most of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
What Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
In all seriousness he's pretty solid and makes for good fights, if they could get someone like Arreola over to fight him that would be fun. Chisora is one of the only good gatekeeper type HW's around, but it's unlikely a Wilder or Jennings would want him I suspect.
Nobody! Boxing's already got enough f*<k-ups, it can do without trash like chisora...
Bermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
Yes it was shady. If the fight continued I believe Chisora would have won anyway. You could tell from listening to Scott that he didnt like what was going on in the ring. I think he would have been stopped either way, he definitely would have gone down againQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaBermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
Agreed, but he well beat the count and responded clearly. It was a terrible stoppage and Scott deserved the chance to fight it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYes it was shady. If the fight continued I believe Chisora would have won anyway. You could tell from listening to Scott that he didnt like what was going on in the ring. I think he would have been stopped either way, he definitely would have gone down againQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaBermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
Does it even matter? That's like asking who should Fres Oquendo be fighting? Who the fuck cares?
Then why don't they fight Del Boy? Mitchell, Banks, Wilder et al are nothing special. Average or below like most non European heavies.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaBermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
I totally agree all those guys are nowhere near special.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThen why don't they fight Del Boy? Mitchell, Banks, Wilder et al are nothing special. Average or below like most non European heavies.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaBermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
After what happened to Scott though, I doubt any of the 2nd tier HWs from US would want to fight Chisora in his backyward.
Just because an American heavyweight showed a lack of heart and quit when the going got tough, it doesn't mean they all will.
Because he's tough and can do 12 rounds while still putting up a solid performance against anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Plus he doesn't duck fighters.
America has truck loads of HWs?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Who's even came close to fighting for a world title recently?
Other than the old guy Thompson?
If Chisora got the money to go to the US he would definitely go. It was a bad decision by the ref but was no con job. Scott was ahead on the cards but he was fading. The Helenius robbery over Chisora was far far worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI totally agree all those guys are nowhere near special.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThen why don't they fight Del Boy? Mitchell, Banks, Wilder et al are nothing special. Average or below like most non European heavies.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaBermaine Stiverne, Arreola, Bryant Jennings, Andy Ruiz, Amir Mansour, Mitchell, Scott Jonathan Banks, WIlder, and THompson would fill up the truck.. All these guys are on the simliar level as Chisora, if not slightly better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat Americans have you got by the truck load. Chisora isnt a world beater but clearly he is above a lot of the average American heavy weights which he showed by beating Scott. I reckon if Chisora got a rematch against Fury he would win. I also think he beat Helenius in his fight. Chisora will struggle against top heavyweights, either very fast like Haye or big and skillfull like the Klits. He gives everyone else a good fight. Id definitely fancy his chances against Jennings, Arreola, Mitchell, Banks and Id say hed give Povetkin a very good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaMost of that attention comes from the Brits since Chisora is one of the very few British HWs whose making a little bit of noise. Americans don't care about him cuz we have fighters like chisora by the truckload. There is nothing impressive about the guy except for his outside ring antics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Rice
Byrant Jennings can use the exposure. He should face chisora. Easy fight
Fury has been elevating his game after each fight while Chisora has regressed so I definitely do not see him beating Fury again.
Are you really going to tell me with a straight face that Chisora beat Scott? lol c'mon bro that was a heist job.
You got to admit that was real shady.
After what happened to Scott though, I doubt any of the 2nd tier HWs from US would want to fight Chisora in his backyward.
I would like to see a Scott rematch or maybe Audley. :)
^^ This.. After Chisora's shitty/lucky performance, he doesn't deserve any big fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He belongs in the ring with Audley Harrison. That's a proper matchup right there. In a perfect world, he should rematch Scott but the fight was boring as hell so there's no demand for another one.
At least against Harrison, there's that intrigue factor cuz nobody knows what will happen.
Kevin Johnson said in an interview yesterday he's in late negotiations to fight Chisora.
And he's referring to it now on twitter: https://twitter.com/kingpinkj_pin
I'm disappointed. :(
The British Boxing Board of Control has rejected a protest lodged by the Malik Scott camp over the stoppage by referee Phil Edwards in Dereck Chisora’s knockout victory over Scott in July.
^^ Yup, everybody was in on it. You guys ever seen The Italian Job with ?
THis was the British Job.
Even though they have shown the stoppage was in accordance with the rules that were in place for the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Let's look at it this way. Had the fight took place in America or even on neutral ground with a neutral referee, would the fight have been stopped the way it did?Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanEven though they have shown the stoppage was in accordance with the rules that were in place for the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
TBH, Scott is at fault too for giving the referee the opporunity to pull this crap but there's a 10 count in boxing for a reason. Scott was not hurt and his senses were clear and as an undefeated fighter, he definitely deserved a chance. The stoppage was ludacrious. There is no way that an undefeated fighter should lose his 0 in that fashion.
The referee took that knockdown as a perfect moment to " carry out the plan "... and it worked out perfectly. A movie script couldnt have been better than this.
It didn't take place in America.
Brits dont get the benefit of a neutral ref when they fight in the USA.
Boxing and most sports rules and codifications originated here and predate yours so stop trying to teach your grandmother how to suck eggs.
9.
Even you think it was Maliks fault.
You have the temerity to call established classy European champions, hype jobs and then proclaim Tyson Fury 'the biggest hype job in the history of British boxing', the future of the heavyweight division. It does somewhat undermine your credibility and judgement.
Neither Stiverne nor Ruiz are American, so I'd probably ask them to get out of the truck if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita