Deontay Wilder RULES

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08-10-2013, 02:58 PM
Beanflicker

Deontay Wilder RULES

I don't care if he's technically flawed. Being technically amazing is a small man's game.

Knocking dudes into convulsions is what a HW should do.

I was with friends last night who don't follow and couldn't care less about boxing. I said "guys lets watch this one, this dude is 28-0 with 28 knockouts. I gaurentee it'll be exciting."

I said the same shit to my buddies when Wlad fought Haye and they made me look stupid.

Deontay is the kind of guy that, for better or for worse, will make people interested in HW boxing again.

So instead of nitpicking his flaws, saying his competition thus far has sucked (it has, I know), I'm going to be excited that THERE'S ACTUALLY A HW PROSPECT WHO KNOCKS PEOPLE THE FUCK OUT INSTEAD OF STINKING OUT THE JOINT.

War Deontay!
08-10-2013, 03:14 PM
imp

Haye vs wilder is the one fight i want.
Winner fights wlad.
08-10-2013, 03:40 PM
Master

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At last Wilder is being taken seriously. He still needs to be tested coming into the later rounds.
08-10-2013, 04:00 PM
Beanflicker

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I really wanna see him vs. Chris Arreola. Arreola will put the heat on him big time and smash him on the inside if he's not careful.
08-10-2013, 04:36 PM
El Kabong

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Wilder needs rounds but that KO was SICK! But it's about as meaningful as Cooney-Norton
08-10-2013, 04:37 PM
TitoFan

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It took a while, but Deontay finally fought someone decent. (And blew him away in the process). I still think 29-0 is a bit bloated of a record at the end of it all (he even makes Chavez Jr's list of early opponents look good in comparison)..... but I'm glad he's finally stepping up in level of competition.

But like someone said in another thread: There's no turning back.
He can't go back to fighting bums again.... or he risks losing all credibility.
Let's see how his handlers manage his career from here on out.
08-10-2013, 04:51 PM
Memphis

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

I don't care if he's technically flawed. Being technically amazing is a small man's game.

Knocking dudes into convulsions is what a HW should do.

I was with friends last night who don't follow and couldn't care less about boxing. I said "guys lets watch this one, this dude is 28-0 with 28 knockouts. I gaurentee it'll be exciting."

I said the same shit to my buddies when Wlad fought Haye and they made me look stupid.

Deontay is the kind of guy that, for better or for worse, will make people interested in HW boxing again.

So instead of nitpicking his flaws, saying his competition thus far has sucked (it has, I know), I'm going to be excited that THERE'S ACTUALLY A HW PROSPECT WHO KNOCKS PEOPLE THE FUCK OUT INSTEAD OF STINKING OUT THE JOINT.

War Deontay!

Hear hear!

Dude scored me serious points. He's alright in mjy book.
08-10-2013, 05:05 PM
Gandalf

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

It was a good win, but against a man on a losing streak and is several years past his best. Stick him in there with someone who will be cagey and hang around. His record is shit, and this doesn't really say anything being a 3rd loss in a row for Liakovich.

Potentially Wilder means something, but he still seems a bit rubbish to me. He needs to fight a decent fighter who will fight a little bit smart. He really needs to bank a few rounds and fighting washed ups, it's not going to happen.
08-10-2013, 05:39 PM
Onetime

I showed my brother in law the Price knockout and he watched this one Deontay is good for American boxing and due to the huge fees our premium channels pay that's good for all fans.
08-11-2013, 03:49 AM
palmerq

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

I don't care if he's technically flawed. Being technically amazing is a small man's game.

Knocking dudes into convulsions is what a HW should do.

I was with friends last night who don't follow and couldn't care less about boxing. I said "guys lets watch this one, this dude is 28-0 with 28 knockouts. I gaurentee it'll be exciting."

I said the same shit to my buddies when Wlad fought Haye and they made me look stupid.

Deontay is the kind of guy that, for better or for worse, will make people interested in HW boxing again.

So instead of nitpicking his flaws, saying his competition thus far has sucked (it has, I know), I'm going to be excited that THERE'S ACTUALLY A HW PROSPECT WHO KNOCKS PEOPLE THE FUCK OUT INSTEAD OF STINKING OUT THE JOINT.

War Deontay!

I agree.. I am on the wilder bandwagon now! I have no idea if he is ever going to be world champions but one thing for sure is that it's going to be fun whilst it lasts.
08-12-2013, 07:00 AM
Hulk

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

It was a good win, but against a man on a losing streak and is several years past his best. Stick him in there with someone who will be cagey and hang around. His record is shit, and this doesn't really say anything being a 3rd loss in a row for Liakovich.

Potentially Wilder means something, but he still seems a bit rubbish to me. He needs to fight a decent fighter who will fight a little bit smart. He really needs to bank a few rounds and fighting washed ups, it's not going to happen.

He's already beaten better competition than David Price. Like to see him fight Tony Thompson soon or someone like that.

Others have mentioned Solis, Kevin Johnson, Arreola and Stiverene.

I think Thomas Adamek would also be a great test in the near future.

And there's always the other best American prospect, Bryant Jennings.

Hell, Malik Scott, Chisora or Helenius would all be good steps up too.
08-12-2013, 01:39 PM
Beanflicker

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Robert Helenius (who I also have high hopes for) would be another good opponent as well.
08-12-2013, 02:11 PM
Gandalf

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

It was a good win, but against a man on a losing streak and is several years past his best. Stick him in there with someone who will be cagey and hang around. His record is shit, and this doesn't really say anything being a 3rd loss in a row for Liakovich.

Potentially Wilder means something, but he still seems a bit rubbish to me. He needs to fight a decent fighter who will fight a little bit smart. He really needs to bank a few rounds and fighting washed ups, it's not going to happen.

He's already beaten better competition than David Price. Like to see him fight Tony Thompson soon or someone like that.

Others have mentioned Solis, Kevin Johnson, Arreola and Stiverene.

I think Thomas Adamek would also be a great test in the near future.

And there's always the other best American prospect, Bryant Jennings.

Hell, Malik Scott, Chisora or Helenius would all be good steps up too.

Adamek NOW would be a move in the right direction. A few fights from now he will be getting too old. He is 28-0, but look at the records of most of those guys. They simply can't stand up. This was a step in the right direction, but Adamek would have him facing North.
08-12-2013, 02:35 PM
Chomsky Acolyte

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He's definitely entertaining when he's fighting non-entities or, in the case of Lyakhovic, shot fighters. HIs power can lead to devastating ko's but even casual fans who're attracted to that will inevitably demand a step-up in competition. I actually hesitate to use the word "competition" to describe his opponents thus far because that word usually implies that both sides have a chance of winning.

If Andre Bert spent his whole career fighting the likes of Freddie Hernandez, I'm sure he'd have a similar record to Wilder and an equally impressive knockout reel.

I'm not impressed so far because I like to watch contests between two relatively well-matched fighters rather that see one guy ko hopelessly out-matched opponents.

I'd like to see him fight someone with a pulse next. Even Dominic Guinn would be a big step-up and a move in the right direction.
08-12-2013, 06:19 PM
Rantcatrat

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Chomsky Acolyte

He's definitely entertaining when he's fighting non-entities or, in the case of Lyakhovic, shot fighters. HIs power can lead to devastating ko's but even casual fans who're attracted to that will inevitably demand a step-up in competition. I actually hesitate to use the word "competition" to describe his opponents thus far because that word usually implies that both sides have a chance of winning.

If Andre Bert spent his whole career fighting the likes of Freddie Hernandez, I'm sure he'd have a similar record to Wilder and an equally impressive knockout reel.

I'm not impressed so far because I like to watch contests between two relatively well-matched fighters rather that see one guy ko hopelessly out-matched opponents.

I'd like to see him fight someone with a pulse next. Even Dominic Guinn would be a big step-up and a move in the right direction.

Guinn is the exact type of opponent he needs. Someone who should go rounds. Good call.
08-13-2013, 11:32 PM
CountryBoy

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Chomsky Acolyte

He's definitely entertaining when he's fighting non-entities or, in the case of Lyakhovic, shot fighters. HIs power can lead to devastating ko's but even casual fans who're attracted to that will inevitably demand a step-up in competition. I actually hesitate to use the word "competition" to describe his opponents thus far because that word usually implies that both sides have a chance of winning.

If Andre Bert spent his whole career fighting the likes of Freddie Hernandez, I'm sure he'd have a similar record to Wilder and an equally impressive knockout reel.

I'm not impressed so far because I like to watch contests between two relatively well-matched fighters rather that see one guy ko hopelessly out-matched opponents.

I'd like to see him fight someone with a pulse next. Even Dominic Guinn would be a big step-up and a move in the right direction.

Guinn is the exact type of opponent he needs. Someone who should go rounds. Good call.

Well, I agree and disagree...... Guinn has a GREAT Chin and it should gauge how truly great Wilder power is, But on the down side.....Guinn simply does not do enough in fights even if he is the better fighter.
08-13-2013, 11:42 PM
Chomsky Acolyte

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Originally Posted by CountryBoy

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Chomsky Acolyte

He's definitely entertaining when he's fighting non-entities or, in the case of Lyakhovic, shot fighters. HIs power can lead to devastating ko's but even casual fans who're attracted to that will inevitably demand a step-up in competition. I actually hesitate to use the word "competition" to describe his opponents thus far because that word usually implies that both sides have a chance of winning.

If Andre Bert spent his whole career fighting the likes of Freddie Hernandez, I'm sure he'd have a similar record to Wilder and an equally impressive knockout reel.

I'm not impressed so far because I like to watch contests between two relatively well-matched fighters rather that see one guy ko hopelessly out-matched opponents.

I'd like to see him fight someone with a pulse next. Even Dominic Guinn would be a big step-up and a move in the right direction.

Guinn is the exact type of opponent he needs. Someone who should go rounds. Good call.

Well, I agree and disagree...... Guinn has a GREAT Chin and it should gauge how truly great Wilder power is, But on the down side.....Guinn simply does not do enough in fights even if he is the better fighter.

That's what makes him a good opponent for Wilder. They're not ready to put him in with someone who has a legitimate chance of beating him but he needs to go rounds and be tested a little.

Guinn should take him later into a fight than he's ever been and he's talented enough to make Wilder uncomfortable, show him a different look and win a few rounds, without ever being in real danger of winning.

This would be a nice stepping stone to the likes of Arreola.
08-13-2013, 11:44 PM
CountryBoy

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Originally Posted by Chomsky Acolyte

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Originally Posted by CountryBoy

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Chomsky Acolyte

He's definitely entertaining when he's fighting non-entities or, in the case of Lyakhovic, shot fighters. HIs power can lead to devastating ko's but even casual fans who're attracted to that will inevitably demand a step-up in competition. I actually hesitate to use the word "competition" to describe his opponents thus far because that word usually implies that both sides have a chance of winning.

If Andre Bert spent his whole career fighting the likes of Freddie Hernandez, I'm sure he'd have a similar record to Wilder and an equally impressive knockout reel.

I'm not impressed so far because I like to watch contests between two relatively well-matched fighters rather that see one guy ko hopelessly out-matched opponents.

I'd like to see him fight someone with a pulse next. Even Dominic Guinn would be a big step-up and a move in the right direction.

Guinn is the exact type of opponent he needs. Someone who should go rounds. Good call.

Well, I agree and disagree...... Guinn has a GREAT Chin and it should gauge how truly great Wilder power is, But on the down side.....Guinn simply does not do enough in fights even if he is the better fighter.

That's what makes him a good opponent for Wilder. They're not ready to put him in with someone who has a legitimate chance of beating him but he needs to go rounds and be tested a little.

Guinn should take him later into a fight than he's ever been and he's talented enough to make Wilder uncomfortable, show him a different look and win a few rounds, without ever being in real danger of winning.

This would be a nice stepping stone to the likes of Arreola.

Well, While I agree.......Liakovidge was supposed to be that opponent to gauge Wilder.
08-13-2013, 11:53 PM
Bo-Bo24

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I can understand giving him some poor opponents because his amateur career was so short but he needs some decent rounds under his belt before he can be talked about being in contention for belts. I was gutted the Chisora fight fell through because that would of been a great test for him.
08-14-2013, 01:21 PM
bzkfn

Re: Deontay Wilder RULES

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Originally Posted by Hulk

He's already beaten better competition than David Price.

Bullshit. Price beat Audley in Audley's prime. Deontay got sloppy seconds.

All joking aside, Deontay has had plenty more fights than Price, so his opposition should be better. He also hasn't fought anyone on Thompson's level yet.
08-14-2013, 06:24 PM
15rounder

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I'm almost on the Wilder bandwagon. After that Liakhovich fight, I started watching some of his earlier fights. This is the kind of heavyweight you create when you buy your new Fight Night game for PS3 (or Xbox360)...and this is the kind of record you have in your video game...29-0, 29 ko's? Are you frikkin kidding me?