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What are the chances of something shady going down in the Cleverly fight
Will we see another calzaghe-manfredo where the ref jumped in at the first sign of flurry?
I can just hear The British job being planned right now. What's in store for Kovalev?
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When Kov comatoses Clev the ref will say it was an elbow. Clev wins by DQ :D
Nah I doubt there will be any dodgy dealings, scorecard will probably be wrong but dont think thats fixed just shit judges getting influenced by crowd.
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Cleverly will win with no help from ref or judges, stop making up conspiracy theories. Nathan is the real deal.
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Maybe it'll be like Brodie-Chi 1 - when the three foreign Judges, foreign ref and foreign WBC boss Jose Sulaiman all conspired against the Korean fighter by docking the Englishman a point for an accidental head clash that actually cut him.
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Whoever the officials are, warren might have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If there's anything close to an early stoppage or if the scores look way off, somebody was definitely on the take.
The ref just better not step into the ring with a big bulge in his back pocket. Leave the white envelope in the car
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FinitoElDinamita
Whoever the officials are, warren might have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If there's anything close to an early stoppage or if the scores look way off, somebody was definitely on the take.
The ref just better not step into the ring with a big bulge in his back pocket. Leave the white envelope in the car
Yeah that's a fair point. When Calzaghe fought Manfredo I'd have spent money bribing the ref and judges too. Even though Calzaghe could have won with a blindfold on and one arm, it's better to be safe than sorry
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Maybe it'll be like Brodie-Chi 1 - when the three foreign Judges, foreign ref and foreign WBC boss Jose Sulaiman all conspired against the Korean fighter by docking the Englishman a point for an accidental head clash that actually cut him.
A million likes.
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FinitoElDinamita
Whoever the officials are, warren might have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If there's anything close to an early stoppage or if the scores look way off, somebody was definitely on the take.
The ref just better not step into the ring with a big bulge in his back pocket. Leave the white envelope in the car
Yeah that's a fair point. When Calzaghe fought Manfredo I'd have spent money bribing the ref and judges too. Even though Calzaghe could have won with a blindfold on and one arm, it's better to be safe than sorry
Hehe. Do you think maybe there is a tendency for certain refs to wave fights off early in general over there though? Obviously it's not a matter of corruption in most cases, just wondering if that's a fair shout. I'm not familiar with many of the regular officials or anything like that.
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If Warren is involved you bet, I've never forgotten when he tried fuck Clinton Woods over in the 3rd Glen Johnson fight...
Cold changing room etc etc and the only judge who didn't score it a win for Woods was Mickey Vann (who allowed Hatton to wrestle through 90% of his bouts when he was with Warren and then let Carlos Maussa rip his cuts open with his cuff when he left Warren).
Obviously just wanted Glen Johnson to get the belt, because this was at a time when Calazghe needed an American name with a belt... :rolleyes:
I expect the same shit for Cleverly, there's a reason the WBO belt is known as the Warren Boxing Organisation.
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Hey it's boxing, put nothing past anyone anywhere I assume the judges are already crooked. We can just hope Cleverly sticks to his getting a ko talk and Kovalev will invite exchange. Do we know the ref?
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Fenster
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FinitoElDinamita
Whoever the officials are, warren might have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If there's anything close to an early stoppage or if the scores look way off, somebody was definitely on the take.
The ref just better not step into the ring with a big bulge in his back pocket. Leave the white envelope in the car
Yeah that's a fair point. When Calzaghe fought Manfredo I'd have spent money bribing the ref and judges too. Even though Calzaghe could have won with a blindfold on and one arm, it's better to be safe than sorry
Hehe. Do you think maybe there is a tendency for certain refs to wave fights off early in general over there though? Obviously it's not a matter of corruption in most cases, just wondering if that's a fair shout. I'm not familiar with many of the regular officials or anything like that.
Definitely the Brit refs are safety first merchants and you get premature stoppages. (I think this stems from the tragedies that happened in Britain in the 90s)
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Cheers, wasn't even thinking of that makes a lot of sense. Michael Watson and McLellan of course, any others I'm forgetting?
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p4pking
Cheers, wasn't even thinking of that makes a lot of sense. Michael Watson and McLellan of course, any others I'm forgetting?
Paul Ingle.
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p4pking
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Fenster
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FinitoElDinamita
Whoever the officials are, warren might have made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
If there's anything close to an early stoppage or if the scores look way off, somebody was definitely on the take.
The ref just better not step into the ring with a big bulge in his back pocket. Leave the white envelope in the car
Yeah that's a fair point. When Calzaghe fought Manfredo I'd have spent money bribing the ref and judges too. Even though Calzaghe could have won with a blindfold on and one arm, it's better to be safe than sorry
Hehe. Do you think maybe there is a tendency for certain refs to wave fights off early in general over there though? Obviously it's not a matter of corruption in most cases, just wondering if that's a fair shout. I'm not familiar with many of the regular officials or anything like that.
Definitely the Brit refs are safety first merchants and you get premature stoppages. (I think this stems from the tragedies that happened in Britain in the 90s)
I agree. I think that's where it comes from. It's the way it is over here now and it has worked both ways. But not saying that Warren hasn't screwed a few.
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Cheers, wasn't even thinking of that makes a lot of sense. Michael Watson and McLellan of course, any others I'm forgetting?
Paul Ingle.
Plus Spencer Oliver and there were two deaths in the ring - Bradley Stone and a Scottish fighter in a Brit title fight (can't remember his name :-\)
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I thinks it refreshing that a young champion would take on such a dangerous opponent when he did not have to. How many guys out there would even consider it? I can wait..... Garcia seemed to have to be backed into a corner in order to fight his freakin mandatory.
Anybody remember Victor Oganov? Another guy who had about 20 early knockouts and was going to steamroll everyone to the top. No way would a guy like Zuniga have a chance. Well? Now he's losing 5 rounders. I cant recall a fight in Wales that was controversial at all unless you count Arthur/Quigg. This is Clev's fight to lose. My only concern for him is his obsession to please the crowd. Stink out the place if need be. Just win the dam fight;D
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I'm pretty sure it'll be a foreign ref for this fight. Unlike the vast majority of world title fights held in the US there won't be three domestic judges for this one, there'll be one Brit, one American and probably a South American. I'm guessing the ref will be South American too or Central American. The WBO are based in the DR and they seem to have a lot of Dominican refs and judges on their payroll.
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I thinks it refreshing that a young champion would take on such a dangerous opponent when he did not have to. How many guys out there would even consider it? I can wait..... Garcia seemed to have to be backed into a corner in order to fight his freakin mandatory.
Anybody remember Victor Oganov? Another guy who had about 20 early knockouts and was going to steamroll everyone to the top. No way would a guy like Zuniga have a chance. Well? Now he's losing 5 rounders. I cant recall a fight in Wales that was controversial at all unless you count Arthur/Quigg. This is Clev's fight to lose. My only concern for him is his obsession to please the crowd. Stink out the place if need be. Just win the dam fight;D
Oganov wasn't anywhere near as good as Kovalev. He couldn't box for shit and never met anyone half decent before Zuniga. Kovalev is a lot more than a puncher imo, although I do favour Cleverly slightly. Expecting a great fight though, neither man is getting "exposed" here if you ask me, they are both talented boxers and this is a great matchup.
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I just hope the ref won't be the incompetent Ian John-Lewis.
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Well speak of the devil. Guess who the ref is for this bout?
Yep, none other than Terry O'Connor! Some notable fights he's been involved in :
Calzaghe-Mafredo <<< this one was a piece of work
McKenzie- Enzo <<< Only thing missing was the ski mask
Eubank Jr-Fedotovs
The plan seems to be in full effect.
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FinitoElDinamita
Well speak of the devil. Guess who the ref is for this bout?
Yep, none other than Terry O'Connor! Some notable fights he's been involved in :
Calzaghe-Mafredo <<< this one was a piece of work
McKenzie- Enzo <<< Only thing missing was the ski mask
Eubank Jr-Fedotovs
The plan seems to be in full effect.
Well the mask must have been fantastic considering it was Ian John-Lewis that reffed that
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FinitoElDinamita
Well speak of the devil. Guess who the ref is for this bout?
Yep, none other than Terry O'Connor! Some notable fights he's been involved in :
Calzaghe-Mafredo <<< this one was a piece of work
McKenzie- Enzo <<< Only thing missing was the ski mask
Eubank Jr-Fedotovs
The plan seems to be in full effect.
Terry is an incompetent moron. He screwed John McDermott out of a clear win in the Fury 1st fight.
That Calzaghe-Manfredo stoppage was terrible but he is renowed for being safety first. Although he gave the longest count ever for Khan in the Prescott fight in the hope he'd get the fuck up.
