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Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
I don't think the burger chains from the USA are really that popular in the UK
Mcdonalds
Burger King
Wendys
They simply have no interest in mankinds greatest invention, all it is is bread, cheese, and beef which is a simple recipe, yet you act like you're eating octupus.
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Trash chains like that shouldn't be popular anywhere, it's a terrible thing that needs to stop. Anyone can make a better burger in 10 minutes without using anywhere near the garbage that goes into those frozen abortions anyways. I have no idea how popular or not burgers are in the UK that said:p, but it's just a type of sandwich everywhere has their tradition there. Why don't more Americans stop eating such rubbish is a better question.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
If I'm having a burger I make my own, my friends are butchers so I buy my burgers off them,
cook the burgers, cheese etc good roll, really not interested in burger chain types not for me.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
I don't think the burger chains from the USA are really that popular in the UK
Mcdonalds
Burger King
Wendys
They simply have no interest in mankinds greatest invention, all it is is bread, cheese, and beef which is a simple recipe, yet you act like you're eating octupus.
You are misinformed.
Mcdonalds and Burger King are very very popular here, especially Mcdonalds. It's not for me anymore but Mcdonalds is easily the most popular fast food place in the country.
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I used to love fast foods when I lived alone but my girl doesn't allow it anymore. All organic now..
I still do grub on that greasy shit when Im out with the boys though.. How can anybody not enjoy Taco Bell once in a while? That new smothered Burrito is the shit. What about McDonald's Fillet Fish burger? c'mon .. And that Triple Baconator at Wendy's and Western Burger at Carl's Jr, forget about it.. U gotta have it sometimes..
Only fast food I can eat with my girl is In-In-Out.. I always get the 3x3 with raw onion + Grilled onion, and animal style fries.. This is some California shit all the way..
I feel bad for you Brits... Have ya tried In-In-Out?? it's like pussy with buns. It's the cleanest fast food out there..
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There are like Ryanman said plenty of Burger Kings and McDonald's in the UK. There is fast food of all kinds Fried chicken, pizza, subway etc. We also have chains that you probably don't like Spud-U-like. Most of these are chains or franchises but being an island our most popular home grown fast food is fish and chips. When I grew up there was no McDonald's or Burger king, (except maybe in London) but we had our own version called Wimpys. It was horrible. The drive in McDonald's is a new thing here and something we could probably do without. Fast food is bad enough for your health without taking away the simple exercise of walking in and out of the place :-P. It's alright on a rare occasion but its usually disappointing and is really unhealthy stuff on the whole.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
There are like Ryanman said plenty of Burger Kings and McDonald's in the UK. There is fast food of all kinds Fried chicken, pizza, subway etc. We also have chains that you probably don't like Spud-U-like. Most of these are chains or franchises but being an island our most popular home grown fast food is fish and chips. When I grew up there was no McDonald's or Burger king, (except maybe in London) but we had our own version called Wimpys. It was horrible. The drive in McDonald's is a new thing here and something we could probably do without. Fast food is bad enough for your health without taking away the simple exercise of walking in and out of the place :-P. It's alright on a rare occasion but its usually disappointing and is really unhealthy stuff on the whole.
Speaking of fish n chips.. I love them. Was it Scotland that has the best Fish N Chips?
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
In ters of same store growth, McDonalds is almost certainly the most lucrative franchise business in the UK. There is a McDonalds on every corner, it is HUGE in the UK!!
I love a PROPER cheeseburger. A really high quality Cheesburger in a restaurant beats almost anything for me!
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
If I'm having a burger I make my own, my friends are butchers so I buy my burgers off them,
cook the burgers, cheese etc good roll, really not interested in burger chain types not for me.
I bet they ARE you violent, chopping fuck. Your mates chop and you shovel. Violent motherfuckers over there in Wales. When I arrive I shall be wearing a fucking suit of armor! hahaha
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
This is like that thread from back in the day when that USA fella thought we didn't get the same movies over here.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
They simply have no interest in mankinds greatest invention, all it is is bread, cheese, and beef which is a simple recipe, yet you act like you're eating octupus.
We know... we kind of invented the fucking concept...
John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
I think chicken is the big type of fast food in England at the moment. I mean chicken shops are every where and the main burger at Burger King is the chicken royale. :clap:
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
If I'm having a burger I make my own, my friends are butchers so I buy my burgers off them,
cook the burgers, cheese etc good roll, really not interested in burger chain types not for me.
I bet they ARE you violent, chopping fuck. Your mates chop and you shovel. Violent motherfuckers over there in Wales. When I arrive I shall be wearing a fucking suit of armor! hahaha
Yere, your name ain't dai. why would i want to fight you, I'm busy fighting dai.
We'll take the same response as the last time the English showed up in suits of armour.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
This is like that thread from back in the day when that USA fella thought we didn't get the same movies over here.
Well, just look at what we've had in the cinema over the last few years in Wales:
The Jones Identity, The Jones Ultimatum, The Jones Legacy, The Jones Supremacy
The Lord of the Valley trilogy
The Life of Dai
Police Academy 14 - Mission to Mumbles
Tin Man 3
2 Knives (like 2 Guns, but because of our restrictive gun laws we're forced to stab the bad guys.)
The Lone Ranger - The violent and ultimately tragic tale of a QPR fan who gets seperated from the rest of the QPR fans as they beat a calculated retreat to the train station after their first visit to Cardiff City in the Premiership. Splott is not only the place he dies, but also the noise his face makes as it gets kicked in.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
yeah as stated mcdonalds and burger king are really popular here... Wendys aint made it over this side of the pond but when i was over there I tried a Wendys burger and found it greasy as fuck... Popeyes on the other hand was great thou and beat the shit out of KFC :cool:
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all true there, we got a CCTV of Saddo after he kicked major ass on a Vegas slot machine, he wandered off into the maze of Amerikkin fast food heaven :rolleyes: and availed himself of several Popeye's biscuits, fried chicken, and awesome side dishes like collard greens cajun style, chili beans, and macaroni and cheese.
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Mcdonalds burgers don't even taste like meat, burger king is ok but you can tell that shits been sitting there for hours, wendys is the best for actually tasting like real meat and fresh...a good burger at a sit down restraunt is only second to steak for me and its rare for me to not order one of those two when out and about. I was in florida a while back and my friend and I went to this local sea food restraunt, I ordered the steak...
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AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
It is a silly argument to suggest that Brits don't know a decent cheeseburger. Burgers are everywhere in the UK. Personally, I hate cheese and I also hate fish, so clearly there are going to be plenty of exceptions when one tries to stereotype. As a disillusioned Englishman, I think the food culture is the only thing beyond criticism. In terms of choice and taste, the English have the best of all worlds. However, that is as far as my praise will go for that place as choice and taste are diminishing returns in all other avenues.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
I'm wondering how many Brits and the like would walk into a Stateside "Long John Silvers" and classify its fish & chips as quality ;D
Screw Micky D's...what you guys need over there is a Whataburger!! We're going to get you as fat and gnarly as us!!! Just you wait..IT'S ON WANKAS :kar:
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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FinitoElDinamita
I used to love fast foods when I lived alone but my girl doesn't allow it anymore. All organic now..
I still do grub on that greasy shit when Im out with the boys though.. How can anybody not enjoy Taco Bell once in a while? That new smothered Burrito is the shit. What about McDonald's Fillet Fish burger? c'mon .. And that Triple Baconator at Wendy's and Western Burger at Carl's Jr, forget about it.. U gotta have it sometimes..
Only fast food I can eat with my girl is In-In-Out.. I always get the 3x3 with raw onion + Grilled onion, and animal style fries.. This is some California shit all the way..
I feel bad for you Brits... Have ya tried In-In-Out?? it's like pussy with buns. It's the cleanest fast food out there..
I love In-N-Out...Have you been to the original on Baldwin Park Blvd? I'm so old that I remember Instant Burger- exact same as In-N-Out, the result of a family split after the founder died. I think Instant Burger is gone now. Rockin' neighborhood there, too, around Baldwin Park Blvd, at least back in the day. Couldn't be weak- especially if you were white- and be around there.
Now, I know a bit about cheeseburgers. Farmer Boy, out in Chino, Ontario, and Hemet has GREAT cheeseburgers. Here in Montana, Matt's, here in Butte, can't be beat. WhattaBurger, that's in AZ and, I think, in El Paso, are good, too. Especially if you like chiles on your burger. Sonic isn't bad either.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
I don't think the burger chains from the USA are really that popular in the UK
Mcdonalds
Burger King
Wendys
They simply have no interest in mankinds greatest invention, all it is is bread, cheese, and beef which is a simple recipe, yet you act like you're eating octupus.
Ever asked yourself why they are called Hamburgers ?
Because they originate from Hamburg Germany , not USA.
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
I apologize, that was way to much info.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
There are 1200 Mcdonalds in the UK.
In one 3 month period it receives approx 350 million visits. Equal to every single person visiting 5 times in that time. I can't find the figures but I'm guessing either the Big Mac or Double Cheeseburger is the most popular item. People generally don't think Mcdonalds and think 'Fish'.
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Fish burger the most popular ;D
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
This is like that thread from back in the day when that USA fella thought we didn't get the same movies over here.
Well, just look at what we've had in the cinema over the last few years in Wales:
The Jones Identity, The Jones Ultimatum, The Jones Legacy, The Jones Supremacy
The Lord of the Valley trilogy
The Life of Dai
Police Academy 14 - Mission to Mumbles
Tin Man 3
2 Knives (like 2 Guns, but because of our restrictive gun laws we're forced to stab the bad guys.)
The Lone Ranger - The violent and ultimately tragic tale of a QPR fan who gets seperated from the rest of the QPR fans as they beat a calculated retreat to the train station after their first visit to Cardiff City in the Premiership. Splott is not only the place he dies, but also the noise his face makes as it gets kicked in.
Saving Private Ieuan?
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Fenster
Fish burger the most popular ;D
Oh yeah the kids are queuing round the block for it.
I know that when I fancy some fish I head straight to the nearest McDonalds. But you know, I am British, so that's just par for the course. One of the finest fish restaurants around.
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This is all very fascinating to me...I mean, I watch Masterpeice Mystery theater 4 or 5 times a year- for a long time now- and really thought I understood british culture. When did you all get MacDonalds?
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
I think you inlaws just have slightly bizzare tastes... ;)
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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greynotsoold
This is all very fascinating to me...I mean, I watch Masterpeice Mystery theater 4 or 5 times a year- for a long time now- and really thought I understood british culture. When did you all get MacDonalds?
Most of the stuff on Masterpeice Theatre is either a peroid piece, old, romanticised or excagerates a niche and often dated part of British society (usually higher) and culture.
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
When are we gonna get Red Lobster and Taco Bell in England :confused:
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ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Fish burger the most popular ;D
Oh yeah the kids are queuing round the block for it.
I know that when I fancy some fish I head straight to the nearest McDonalds. But you know, I am British, so that's just par for the course. One of the finest fish restaurants around.
I doubt anybody goes to Mcdonalds because its fancy cuisine in or out of the USA, its cheap/convenient/quick, I don't make reservations at a restaurant everytime I get a taste for a cheeseburger.
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
I think you inlaws just have slightly bizzare tastes... ;)
They do seem weird, however they are polite.
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
I think you inlaws just have slightly bizzare tastes... ;)
They do seem weird, however they are polite.
Jerry, do you now accept you were bang wrong about the uk/cheeseburger thing?
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Originally Posted by
ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
We're a crazy country
No sex
No (universal) dentists
No McDonalds and Burger Kings (everywhere)
...at least according to people who have never been here.
We don't have Wendy's, we have AMPLE McDonalds and Burger Kings, but even if we didn't - those places don't fucking serve food anyway.
You call that plastic shit they sell a burger?!
Nobody ever questioned if there was a burger king or mcdonalds in the UK, and just because somebody goes to Mcdonalds does not mean they order a cheeseburger, there are other items on the menu, I would imagine the fish fillet would be the most popular thing over there, my point is that the sameway the Brits look at fish the Yanks look at beef, the sameway the Yanks look at fish the Brits look at beef.
What are you basing this assumption on? Because it's way off.
My grandmother is from Liverpool, my grandfather was from Puerto Rico, he was in the army in WW2, he ended up meeting my grandmother and they got married, her family disowned her and she moved to Chicago, maybe about 5-6 years ago that side of the family reached out to us, they visit us once a year now.
They love all kind of stuff that I wouldn't eat, blood herring/ blood sausage etc, I had one of my cousins eat some baked beans along with some scrambled eggs which was ddisgusting, anyway they tell me that a burger over in the UK is no way as big as it is in the states, they are typical fish people.
I think you inlaws just have slightly bizzare tastes... ;)
They do seem weird, however they are polite.
Jerry, do you now accept you were bang wrong about the uk/cheeseburger thing?
Fair enough, you guys have admitted however that fish is more in demand over there, where does a burger rank on your list of favorites ryan????
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Re: Why do British people underestimate the taste of a cheeseburger ???
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Originally Posted by
Jerry Rice
I don't think the burger chains from the USA are really that popular in the UK
Mcdonalds
Burger King
Wendys
They simply have no interest in mankinds greatest invention, all it is is bread, cheese, and beef which is a simple recipe, yet you act like you're eating octupus.
My friend... don't underestimate a good octupus salad (or conch salad, for that matter).
Once you've had it, you're hooked for good.
(Matter of fact, thinking of enlightening the folks over at the "Cuisine" thread). ;D
