Please tell me, people who pick Fury to win, how you think Fury is going to beat Haye, because I can't see anything other than a KO victory for Haye.
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Please tell me, people who pick Fury to win, how you think Fury is going to beat Haye, because I can't see anything other than a KO victory for Haye.
By using wlad
Be careful, use his jab and reach effectively, tie up Haye and wear him down and take him out in the later rounds.
Fury can use his jab, but he can also brawl and take a hit. It'll be a closer clash than people expect but the best Tyson Fury will have to show up to have a chance.
Fury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
How can Fury beat Haye? Simple answer. He can't
Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
If Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
The test is if furys chin can actually take the power of Haye and if it can then this fight is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIf Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
Like I said, Fury has been floored against featherfisted fighters. I SERIOUSLY doubt his chin can take Haye's power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonThe test is if furys chin can actually take the power of Haye and if it can then this fight is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIf Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
Lead with a off key Ballad...jump Haye when he tears up in laughter. His only shot!
Anybody who punches at heavyweight has power, maybe different levels of power but they can still deliver power and any fighter is capable of knocking down another fighter. But fury to date has still got up from being knocked down. I personally prefer a fight if somebody gets knocked down and fights back and finds a way to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictLike I said, Fury has been floored against featherfisted fighters. I SERIOUSLY doubt his chin can take Haye's power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonThe test is if furys chin can actually take the power of Haye and if it can then this fight is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIf Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
But back to what I said before this is the test of whether furys chin can take genuine heavyweight power.
The only way he can is by David overtraining and getting tired in the middle rounds, Fury leaning on him and sapping all his energy.
I think Haye will have too many angles and it will be some very shit opening rounds while Haye waits to land the killer punches.
Pray.
if haye hits fury like Cunningham did youd expect him to be gone, fury wasn't exactly focussed tho when Cunningham hit him, but on the other hand he didn't just go down he was hurt and it wasn't until somewhere in round 2 that he was recoveredQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonAnybody who punches at heavyweight has power, maybe different levels of power but they can still deliver power and any fighter is capable of knocking down another fighter. But fury to date has still got up from being knocked down. I personally prefer a fight if somebody gets knocked down and fights back and finds a way to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictLike I said, Fury has been floored against featherfisted fighters. I SERIOUSLY doubt his chin can take Haye's power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonThe test is if furys chin can actually take the power of Haye and if it can then this fight is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIf Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
But back to what I said before this is the test of whether furys chin can take genuine heavyweight power.
You'd expect him to be put away but until it happens you can't say whether or not Tyson is capable of taking Hayes power.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44if haye hits fury like Cunningham did youd expect him to be gone, fury wasn't exactly focussed tho when Cunningham hit him, but on the other hand he didn't just go down he was hurt and it wasn't until somewhere in round 2 that he was recoveredQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonAnybody who punches at heavyweight has power, maybe different levels of power but they can still deliver power and any fighter is capable of knocking down another fighter. But fury to date has still got up from being knocked down. I personally prefer a fight if somebody gets knocked down and fights back and finds a way to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictLike I said, Fury has been floored against featherfisted fighters. I SERIOUSLY doubt his chin can take Haye's power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonThe test is if furys chin can actually take the power of Haye and if it can then this fight is very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseIf Haye drops him, Fury will get up. About 15 minutes later. Haye is an overrated clown. But he can punch. His power is legit. I'm hoping it makes for a highlight reel knock outQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24Yeah but he got up from them and wasn't hurt. Getting floored just means he needs to work on his defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
But back to what I said before this is the test of whether furys chin can take genuine heavyweight power.
I also think fury will be a lot more focused in this fight because he will have Peter in the corner who is very good for Tyson. He will have the game plan for Tyson and he wasn't there to help Tyson vs Cunnigham, he has already told us that he wasn't impressed with tyson last time out and he would have had him done things differently vs Cunnigham. Still credit to Tyson though for doing what he had to do to get off the mat and win the fight.
We just have to wait and see what happens on fight night. I've got a few different scenarios i see this fight ending, and I wouldn't be surprised of which outcome happens. All I know is that it will be a great fight and the best man on the night deserves the credit!
I hate this lazy term.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
Cunningham stopped Huck something Wlads next opponent couldnt do.
Fury just has to fight disciplined and not get excited. Haye boxs very subdued against taller men. Watch the Harrison fight, up until they actually started throwing punches it was terrible. Haye should also not have got the decision against Valuev, whereas an ancient Holyfield was thought to have been robbed!
Against Wlad he tried but he just cant get in range becuase he does not have any confidence in his defence. This is why his defence consists of staying out of range and skirting around the ropes. He does not want to stand in range until he wants to let a few punches go. Chisora forced him to fight and Haye was tiring.
Fury if he pressures Haye and uses his jab well will have Haye knackered. Haye will be the one diving in to hold himself.
Fury will be horizontal by round 3 stfu.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI hate this lazy term.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictFury can take a hit? Are you kidding me? He was floored by featherfisted Cunningham and Pajkic and he can take a hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
Cunningham stopped Huck something Wlads next opponent couldnt do.
Fury just has to fight disciplined and not get excited. Haye boxs very subdued against taller men. Watch the Harrison fight, up until they actually started throwing punches it was terrible. Haye should also not have got the decision against Valuev, whereas an ancient Holyfield was thought to have been robbed!
Against Wlad he tried but he just cant get in range becuase he does not have any confidence in his defence. This is why his defence consists of staying out of range and skirting around the ropes. He does not want to stand in range until he wants to let a few punches go. Chisora forced him to fight and Haye was tiring.
Fury if he pressures Haye and uses his jab well will have Haye knackered. Haye will be the one diving in to hold himself.
The fights already over.
You should start discussing where Fury goes next.. Back to feather fisted fighters no doubt.
You arent going to start crying again are you "stfu" ;D;D;D
Something iv only just noticed that highlights what I mean about Haye not having a great defence and having to always skirt the ring out of punching range.
Watch the Wlad fight and look at how Haye has to launch himself in for fear of getting caught himself, he either starts a punch by dropping his head or by bending right down at the knees to jump forward. He really telegraphs that hes about to throw which is why it was mostly relatively easy for Wlad to litterally just step back and avoid those over hand rights.
Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye (Highlights) - YouTube
He didn't manage to avoid Haye in Round 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
2 minute and 10 seconds in Haye catches him with a Punch that would send Fury to sleep. The idea that Haye just ran and threw nothing at Wlad is mostly a reaction to his unrealistic boasts before the fight. It's hard to catch Wlad without being clubbed into submission or knocked out. Haye underestimated him. Do you really think Fury could survive with even the super cautious version of Haye? Here is a less Klitschko friendly edit of the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51o7RksA__o
How confident are you that your choice will win?
Is that video a piss take by someone who doesnt like Haye?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHe didn't manage to avoid Haye in Round 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
2 minute and 10 seconds in Haye catches him with a Punch that would send Fury to sleep. The idea that Haye just ran and threw nothing at Wlad is mostly a reaction to his unrealistic boasts before the fight. It's hard to catch Wlad without being clubbed into submission or knocked out. Haye underestimated him. Do you really think Fury could survive with even the super cautious version of Haye? Here is a less Klitschko friendly edit of the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51o7RksA__o
I could be bothered enough to get 33 seconds in and not one of those punches lands! Which again highlights what im on about, Haye being out of range and throwing hail mary over hand rights;D
Considering Haye had a broken toe he did well in that fight. I think he may actually beat Tyson Fury now. I have seen the light and the error of my ways. :)
Bloody hell, a burst of sanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
This is serious prizefighting not big fat gypsy wedding!
Hope you match your revised opinion with a winning bet.
Haye 1-3, as always against the over hyped ones.
Geoff
Do you have a beard, pull trucks with your head and is your surname Capes?Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomBloody hell, a burst of sanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
This is serious prizefighting not big fat gypsy wedding!
Hope you match your revised opinion with a winning bet.
Haye 1-3, as always against the over hyped ones.
Geoff
do you want fury to win Geoff?Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomBloody hell, a burst of sanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
This is serious prizefighting not big fat gypsy wedding!
Hope you match your revised opinion with a winning bet.
Haye 1-3, as always against the over hyped ones.
Geoff
I can see Fury winning this fight now whereas when it was announced I thought Haye would stop him when he decides to
After abit of thought I'm not sure Haye is the puncher hes made out to be. He boxes very carefully and minus the Chisora fight he hasn't done much at heavyweight. Ruiz was washed up and Audley was on his feet and got stopped because he wasnt punching back but even Sprott put him to sleep . Hayes yet to lay someone out like that so not sure why he'd start now
He gets completely shut down by bigger men who have reach on him, there wasnt much in the valuev fight and wvlad was in control from start to finish.
That's how Fury wins this.
We all know if he goes in like he did vs Cunningham he gets stopped quickly but if he's disciplined and stays focused i can see him keeping it long and whenever Haye does get close, grabbing him and wearing him down.
Yes he might get floored along the way but Haye isn't busy enough to win the rounds so Furys activity and work rate are key
Tyson has to keep his hands high and keep working. Use all his weight advantage during the clinches and he wins this fight on points. If he gets stupid its his own fault but the fight is his to win and I expect he will
This is hilarious!
Haye gets caught with a southpaw straight left goes down, tries to getback up but face plants the canvas!;D
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=329626825314
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Originally Posted by ross
Apart from that was about 15 years ago and he got up fine in the end.
It was hilarious!;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Apart from that was about 15 years ago and he got up fine in the end.
FACE PLANT!
As for getting up fine... The ol legs were gone... Like Khan;D
He also looked like Khan in the Mock fight;)