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Mosley says PBF and Canelo have about the same punching power
I thought that was interesting. Does Floyd hit harder than most people give him credit for, or is Canelo not a big puncher at 154?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5Rk-KuaqM
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Re: Mosley says PBF and Canelo have about the same punching power
Floyd does not have the power of Alvarez, Shane has taken too many punches. :)
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Yeah, I saw an interview of Mosley saying that too. I always figured Floyd hit harder than the public opinion but he just doesn't sit on his punches a lot throughout a fight because of his movement. Against Mosley he sat down a lot more on his punches than usual so Mosley got a good gauge of those punches. I think they do hit close to the same but Canelo throws more of his harder punches a lot more often and this gives the impression of being a harder puncher. Its a percentage game. Floyd can hit you with 4 or 5 of his 70 percenters and only take 1 or your 90 percenters. (Most hit and not be hit shots probably teeter around 70 percent of your power)
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Yeah, I thought it was silly when people were saying "ohhh Mosley stopped fighting." No, Floyd made him stop fighting with his precision countering and POWER. Floyd's no Matthysse but he can keep guys honest for sure.
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Master
Floyd does not have the power of Alvarez, Shane has taken too many punches. :)
He's been hit by both guys and still sounds articulate, so I dunno... Maybe Saul isn't as big a puncher as we give him credit for.
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jehoshaphat
Yeah, I saw an interview of Mosley saying that too. I always figured Floyd hit harder than the public opinion but he just doesn't sit on his punches a lot throughout a fight because of his movement. Against Mosley he sat down a lot more on his punches than usual so Mosley got a good gauge of those punches. I think they do hit close to the same but Canelo throws more of his harder punches a lot more often and this gives the impression of being a harder puncher. Its a percentage game. Floyd can hit you with 4 or 5 of his 70 percenters and only take 1 or your 90 percenters. (Most hit and not be hit shots probably teeter around 70 percent of your power)
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
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jehoshaphat
Its a percentage game. Floyd can hit you with 4 or 5 of his 70 percenters and only take 1 or your 90 percenters. (Most hit and not be hit shots probably teeter around 70 percent of your power)
@Scrap
@greynotsoold
This is very interesting. ;)
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ross
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
Good point and you may be right.
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Alvarez looks to me another Abraham
Me too. (I said it here first though! I have proof!!! :p)
I hope I'm wrong though.
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ross
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
Good point and you may be right.
He was the only man to put Trout down.
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ross
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
Good point and you may be right.
He was the only man to put Trout down.
Well then id say he was intimidated by Shanes speed and by fuck he's going to be just like Abraham (a turtle in his shell) if that is the case.
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ross
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
Good point and you may be right.
He was the only man to put Trout down.
Well then id say he was intimidated by Shanes speed and by fuck he's going to be just like Abraham (a turtle in his shell) if that is the case.
Trout is as fast as Shane and he did not cover up he attacked smartly.
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ross
I watched Matthew Hatton in a weight too high walk through Alvarez punches. I also watched a very boring fight vs Mosely.
Alvarez looks to me another Abraham thats strong in the weight hes boiling down to but will be nothing at all in the weight above.
Good point and you may be right.
He was the only man to put Trout down.
Well then id say he was intimidated by Shanes speed and by fuck he's going to be just like Abraham (a turtle in his shell) if that is the case.
Trout is as fast as Shane and he did not cover up he attacked smartly.
Well to be honest the only fights iv seen of Alvarez were the Hatton fight where I was wondering what the big deal was. Then the Rhodes fight which wasn't a great deal better and then the Mosley fight which was so boring I kept nodding off.
It may be a biased point of view but this upcoming fight doesn't fill me with anticipation in the slightest. To be honest although the scores were wide I felt Marquez was the only person to have the sense to not let that lean back defence deter him. He kept throwing shots. Same as Cotto. I just cannot see Alvarez doing the same.
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He was the only man to put Trout down.
True but Trout himself never really fought anyone outside of a washed up Cotto.
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He has a lot of power against light-flyweights though, ask Ulises Solis hehe
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I can understand why mosley would feel that way. When you get hit with real accurate punches and shots that you dont see coming, they will hurt a lot more than it looks and he took a lot of those from floyd.
Canelo may be heavier handed and his punches might have more muster but that doesnt necessarily mean that his shots can cause more pain.
Floyd is a dangerous puncher due to his speed, timing, and punch placement.
Mosley fought both so he knows this.
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
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Floyd does not have the power of Alvarez, Shane has taken too many punches. :)
First thing that crossed my mind...
Floyd's brittle hands is why he doesn't sit down more on the punches, and why he wears Winning gloves instead of Reyes.
When Floyd showed up wearing the Reyes a few fights ago, I said, "Oh yeah, Floyd must've got the Xylocaine performance-enhancer injections in his hands, (banned in most states, but legal in Las Vegas, Nevada where Floyd likes to fight because of it), numb the hands 'cause he's planning on punching a little harder tonight."
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FinitoElDinamita
I can understand why mosley would feel that way. When you get hit with real accurate punches and shots that you dont see coming, they will hurt a lot more than it looks and he took a lot of those from floyd.
Canelo may be heavier handed and his punches might have more muster but that doesnt necessarily mean that his shots can cause more pain.
Floyd is a dangerous puncher due to his speed, timing, and punch placement.
Mosley fought both so he knows this.
Good point. Thats another thing to factor in. Precision brings power as well.
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Floyd does not have the power of Alvarez, Shane has taken too many punches. :)
First thing that crossed my mind...
Floyd's brittle hands is why he doesn't sit down more on the punches, and why he wears Winning gloves instead of Reyes.
When Floyd showed up wearing the Reyes a few fights ago, I said, "Oh yeah, Floyd must've got the Xylocaine performance-enhancer injections in his hands, (banned in most states, but legal in Las Vegas, Nevada where Floyd likes to fight because of it), numb the hands 'cause he's planning on punching a little harder tonight."
I'm not sure Floyd still injects his hands but he wears Grants not Winning which are middle of the road punchers gloves just below Reyes. Duran used them as did Tyson, Leonard and others.
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FinitoElDinamita
I can understand why mosley would feel that way. When you get hit with real accurate punches and shots that you dont see coming, they will hurt a lot more than it looks and he took a lot of those from floyd.
Canelo may be heavier handed and his punches might have more muster but that doesnt necessarily mean that his shots can cause more pain.
Floyd is a dangerous puncher due to his speed, timing, and punch placement.
Mosley fought both so he knows this.
Good point. Thats another thing to factor in. Precision brings power as well.
This is strange: dude negative-repped me while leaving a positive comment: "Actually very good point. I forgot about his brittle hands."
Are you a fence-sitter, jehoshaphat?!
Do you go both ways?
You have to make up your mind, son, you're behaving like a wishy-washy, burning-the-candle-at-both-ends type..
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I'm not sure Floyd still injects his hands but he wears Grants not Winning which are middle of the road punchers gloves just below Reyes. Duran used them as did Tyson, Leonard and others.
Good call which I had to check.
Mayweather used to wear Winning, but he hasn't since the Judah fight in 2006, and had been wearing Winning previous agaisnt Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti, Bruseles, Corley
Yep, Floyd's been wearing the Grants, but they're not as hard as the Mexican-made Cleto-Reyes puncher's gloves that Pacquiao favors...
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Violent Demise
Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Get real.
Hes said he has great respect for Floyd, so hes basically not going to do much against afloyd as well and it will purely be down to Alvarez letting him off the hook and not the fear of getting caught?
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Violent Demise
Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Get real.
Hes said he has great respect for Floyd, so hes basically not going to do much against afloyd as well and it will purely be down to Alvarez letting him off the hook and not the fear of getting caught?
Floyd ain't shot. No need to take it easy on him
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jehoshaphat
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FinitoElDinamita
I can understand why mosley would feel that way. When you get hit with real accurate punches and shots that you dont see coming, they will hurt a lot more than it looks and he took a lot of those from floyd.
Canelo may be heavier handed and his punches might have more muster but that doesnt necessarily mean that his shots can cause more pain.
Floyd is a dangerous puncher due to his speed, timing, and punch placement.
Mosley fought both so he knows this.
Good point. Thats another thing to factor in. Precision brings power as well.
This is strange:
dude negative-repped me while leaving a positive comment: "Actually very good point. I forgot about his brittle hands."
Are you a fence-sitter, jehoshaphat?!
Do you go both ways?
You have to make up your mind, son, you're behaving like a wishy-washy, burning-the-candle-at-both-ends type..
I negative repped you? I didn't even know you could do that. That was an accident and I am in no way a fence sitter. I don't know what you mean by going both ways but I hope that it is boxing related. If I ever feel strongly against someone's opinion then I'll post on the thread and not negative rep them then at least we can talk it out. Once again I didn't mean to negative rep you and I didn't even know that was an option.
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
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He was the only man to put Trout down.
True but Trout himself never really fought anyone outside of a washed up Cotto.
This statement is so not true!!! In the amateur he was dropped by Vanes Martirosyan in the first round. He finished the round but he got dropped with the same punch
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Master
He was the only man to put Trout down.
True but Trout himself never really fought anyone outside of a washed up Cotto.
*washed up Cotto? the same Cotto that was teeing off on Mayweather at the end of their fight?... Cotto didn't just lose, he got dominated..
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
Or maybe he thought hell I don't wana break my hands on shanes iron noggin
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
Rubbish.
I saw the fight like many others and mosely is no matthew hatton or ryan rhodes.
Canelo is a good fighter that always has the advantage of picking on guys that are smaller than him rather than fight guys at his own weightclass.
Canelo never carried mosely.
Wake up and open your eyes once in awhile and try eatin ginger nuts of the biscuit type in future as their quite nice with tea.
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jehoshaphat
Yeah, I saw an interview of Mosley saying that too. I always figured Floyd hit harder than the public opinion but he just doesn't sit on his punches a lot throughout a fight because of his movement. Against Mosley he sat down a lot more on his punches than usual so Mosley got a good gauge of those punches. I think they do hit close to the same but Canelo throws more of his harder punches a lot more often and this gives the impression of being a harder puncher. Its a percentage game. Floyd can hit you with 4 or 5 of his 70 percenters and only take 1 or your 90 percenters. (Most hit and not be hit shots probably teeter around 70 percent of your power)
And nearly got knocked out in round 2.
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
Rubbish.
I saw the fight like many others and mosely is no matthew hatton or ryan rhodes.
Canelo is a good fighter that always has the advantage of picking on guys that are smaller than him rather than fight guys at his own weightclass.
Canelo never carried mosely.
Wake up and open your eyes once in awhile and try eatin ginger nuts of the biscuit type in future as their quite nice with tea.
Answer the question gay boy. When did he go for the knock out? What round?
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
Rubbish.
I saw the fight like many others and mosely is no matthew hatton or ryan rhodes.
Canelo is a good fighter that always has the advantage of picking on guys that are smaller than him rather than fight guys at his own weightclass.
Canelo never carried mosely.
Wake up and open your eyes once in awhile and try eatin ginger nuts of the biscuit type in future as their quite nice with tea.
Answer the question gay boy. When did he go for the knock out? What round?
He didnt be cause he doesnt have it in him. Did he also respect Matthew Hatton for all the great things he had done at light middle also?
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Against Mosley he sat down a lot more on his punches
And nearly got knocked out in round 2.
:D
That is not a 1+1=2 equation.
It's not like he got hit while trading. He just got hit. Then Floyd made damn sure he never hit him with the same shot again :cool:
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Alvarez has always had great respect for Mosley. He took it easy on him. He could of stopped him if he wanted. But out of respect for him he never went for it
Lol.
What a stupid statement.
I heard canelo took it easy on trout as well. He likes to pretend hes tired in the later rounds.
Bloody hell..whats next!?
You haven't even seen the fight. So why comment on it? If you have seen it than tell me in which round Alvarez tried to stop him in? After the 1st round the fight was already his. Yet he never went for the stoppage. Why? Out of respect for him. Learn to read between the fucking lines. It's really not that hard
Rubbish.
I saw the fight like many others and mosely is no matthew hatton or ryan rhodes.
Canelo is a good fighter that always has the advantage of picking on guys that are smaller than him rather than fight guys at his own weightclass.
Canelo never carried mosely.
Wake up and open your eyes once in awhile and try eatin ginger nuts of the biscuit type in future as their quite nice with tea.
Answer the question gay boy. When did he go for the knock out? What round?
He didnt be cause he doesnt have it in him. Did he also respect Matthew Hatton for all the great things he had done at light middle also?
Dont waste your time Ross.
He is so blinded its untrue.
Roy jones carried fighters. Thats what carrying looks like.
In your world canelo can do anything he wants to anyone.
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Shane Mosley has had nearly 60 fights and has never been stopped, and he's fought many a world champion along the way. Pacquaio, Margarito, Mayorga, Cotto, Vargas 2x, DLH 2x, Forrest 2x, ect ect, and never been stopped.
What would possibly make you think that stopping Mosley would be easy for some 23 year old kid who really has only had a handful of real fights in his career?
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I am sure if Alvarez could have knocked out Shane he would have done.
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Shane Mosley has had nearly 60 fights and has never been stopped, and he's fought many a world champion along the way. Pacquaio, Margarito, Mayorga, Cotto, Vargas 2x, DLH 2x, Forrest 2x, ect ect, and never been stopped.
What would possibly make you think that stopping Mosley would be easy for some 23 year old kid who really has only had a handful of real fights in his career?
Shane is a welter weight. He was on his last legs in the Mayweather fight and had the last good bit of success he will ever have hurting the best fighter in the world but that same fighter came back the very same round and took over massively and Shane could do nothing about it. Then after that fight he was another safe softened up name for Pacquiao to tenderise even more. Then Shane moves up a weight where Alvarez enters the ring as a light heavy, probably heavier than Froch when hes boxing and Alvarez "fights" cautious.
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I am sure if Alvarez could have knocked out Shane he would have done.
Spot on masterclass
