Just saw a video and Roger Mayweather thinks that Oscar de la Hoya is the biggest star in Mexicans history, while Majority of the people think Canelo or Julio Cesar Chavez is!!! So in you opinion WHO'S THE BiGGEST BOXING STAR EVER?
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Just saw a video and Roger Mayweather thinks that Oscar de la Hoya is the biggest star in Mexicans history, while Majority of the people think Canelo or Julio Cesar Chavez is!!! So in you opinion WHO'S THE BiGGEST BOXING STAR EVER?
Interesting question as it involves 3 different eras. There is no question in my mind that Chavez wins this if you were to poll Mexicans but world wide its probably Oscar. Much of that has to do with media and the revolution in connectivity. If star power is earnings Alvarez could surpass Oscar w/o being near the boxer or having come close to the same accomplishments or notoriety. Or he could implode and fall apart yet still be recognized more then Zarate.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrorsid
Julio Cesar Chavez, without a doubt!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitInteresting question as it involves 3 different eras. There is no question in my mind that Chavez wins this if you were to poll Mexicans but world wide its probably Oscar. Much of that has to do with media and the revolution in connectivity. If star power is earnings Alvarez could surpass Oscar w/o being near the boxer or having come close to the same accomplishments or notoriety. Or he could implode and fall apart yet still be recognized more then Zarate.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrorsid
Before Chavez, Ruben Olivares was the most loved and regarded as the best Mexican fighter ever.
I rate chavez much higher than Olivares for sho
Why would Alvarez even be considered on DLH and JCC's level yet? If he whips Floyd, then I'd say he'd probably be the biggest. But as of yet, he hasn't really accomplished much.
In some circles you would hear the argument that DLH is not, in fact, Mexican.
Was he born in Mexico?Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
I thought DLH was born in Cali. Is there something out there were all missing and DLH was actually born in Mexico?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzWas he born in Mexico?Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Oscar may be bigger in terms of popularity in the world and PPV sales but he was not better than Julio Cesar Chavez.
I would say Chavez Sr. Over 132k went to see him fight Haugen and that is pretty damn impressive. I don't think DLH, Morales or Barrera could do that.
In terms of popularity it has to go to Chavez Sr, highest paid well that obviously goes to DLH, Canelo although popular doesn't compare to the level of popularity of either JCC or DLH, nor does he make the money that Oscar would
My understanding is that Oscar was born, and lived his life, in California. He is not Mexican; he is an American of Mexican descent.
If you think this difference is irrelevant, then you have never been to the fights at the Olympic Auditorium when a 'Mexican' fought a 'Mexican-American.'
There is definitely a significant difference. But if were going to use the terms loosely then I nominate PBF as Kenya's biggest star ever.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Juan Manuel Marquez next to Heredia.
Floyd was born in Michigan so he is American. Oscar was born in L.A so they are both American. Floyd's Father was born in Amory Mississippi so he too is American not Kenyan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatThere is definitely a significant difference. But if were going to use the terms loosely then I nominate PBF as Kenya's biggest star ever.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Bro, I was clearly joking. You know being that black Americans are African Americans so I named a country in Africa. Clearly a joke in reference to Oscar being in the discussion as Mexico's biggest star.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzFloyd was born in Michigan so he is American. Oscar was born in L.A so they are both American. Floyd's Father was born in Amory Mississippi so he too is American not Kenyan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatThere is definitely a significant difference. But if were going to use the terms loosely then I nominate PBF as Kenya's biggest star ever.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
ah..O.K. I find it weird that Americans often find it so necessary to prefix themselves with Irish, African, Mexican, Italian e.t.c. To Europeans and people in the rest of the world it comes across as being really lame. Just because your great grandfather was Irish does not make you Irish-American. It makes you a plastic Paddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatBro, I was clearly joking. You know being that black Americans are African Americans so I named a country in Africa. Clearly a joke in reference to Oscar being in the discussion as Mexico's biggest star.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzFloyd was born in Michigan so he is American. Oscar was born in L.A so they are both American. Floyd's Father was born in Amory Mississippi so he too is American not Kenyan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatThere is definitely a significant difference. But if were going to use the terms loosely then I nominate PBF as Kenya's biggest star ever.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
I absolutely agree. I'm American and I think its silly as well because if we claim descent then were just picking and choosing where we want to stop our lineage and claim that nationality. Because originally we all descended from the same land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanzah..O.K. I find it weird that Americans often find it so necessary to prefix themselves with Irish, African, Mexican, Italian e.t.c. To Europeans and people in the rest of the world it comes across as being really lame. Just because your great grandfather was Irish does not make you Irish-American. It makes you a plastic Paddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatBro, I was clearly joking. You know being that black Americans are African Americans so I named a country in Africa. Clearly a joke in reference to Oscar being in the discussion as Mexico's biggest star.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzFloyd was born in Michigan so he is American. Oscar was born in L.A so they are both American. Floyd's Father was born in Amory Mississippi so he too is American not Kenyan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatThere is definitely a significant difference. But if were going to use the terms loosely then I nominate PBF as Kenya's biggest star ever.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold