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Remeber how RJJ got back to back KO'ed (Tarver, Glencoffee)? The sudden sign that his reign was over. For some reason I got the same feeling about Pac. I remember several boxers saying that once a guy gets brutally whacked like that he is NEVER the same. Also getting up in years isnt he. IS the Rios fight still on for November then?
I would rather have seen him fight Alvarado, I disagree that Manny, who has been boxing all of his life is going to be a different fighter because of this knockout. Boxing is in his blood. I think Rios will be baffled and get wild and lose caution. Age may end Manny but not against Rios.
Yea good comparison. It wouldn't shock me to see Pac get knocked out again.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Im rooting for Pacman though..
On paper...Pac should brutalize Rios. But you just never know how a fighter, even one with as much heart as Pac, will respond after a brutal knockout. Not to mention...with Pac...distractions are ALWAYS an issue. It would surprise me if Rios knocked him out...but it wouldn't shock me.
The biggest thing for me prior to even a Bradley was his head. Do you wanna be President, a lounge singer or some Apostle. Physically he is not a massive collector of damage in last few...Marquez aside...but his fire has seemed to dampen. Bradley should not have been limping aroung on one foot being hit clean and come close to leaving it totally in hands of judges, he just shouldn't. Rios is a giant sponge and has shown it sticks on him, no defense, no imagination or second gear and he has the midsection of a softish mid century pin up girl. The Manny that was in early with Marquez should be sharp enough and on another level and pick Rios apart...if Alvarado boxes you and leaves you in lurges, come on man...but anything less and coming in with his huge melon in the clouds and not focused and I wouldn't rule anything out. Not digging but its not new for Manny to have been sparked out, and he more than came back from that..just never has he fallen from such a high mount.
good points boys. Maybe IM writing him off too soon, but it could well be he is shot to shit after that KO. I mean that was some frikiin KO really. Surprised he even woke up after that. Worth another look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ktkzvTqo0
It was such a savage KO, I don't think anyone outside of his camp knows how that will affect him. He is obviously not a Roy Jones type of fighter and is no stranger to taking big punches, but nobody takes anything positive from that type of pole axe and he'd never actually been iced out before. Thing is right until that point, he looked a lot better against Marquez than he had in his few fights prior, against Bradley at least.
Does anyone remember when the Rios fight was actually announced, how long after that fight? It strikes me he wouldn't have taken it if there was reason to expect he was in a bad way from it, but it could just be his own ego refusing an easier opponent.
It wasn't a prophecy dream again was it Brock? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
It was a feeling this timeQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanIt wasn't a prophecy dream again was it Brock? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
You've lost that loving feeling
Oh that loving feeling
You've lost that loving feeling
Now it's gone gone gone
Whoa-oh
Actually it is. He had been stopped before. But those were a long time ago when nobody knew who the fuck he was. Plus he was conscious when they happened. He wasn't conscious against Marquez. He was knocked the fuck out. Literally put to sleep in front of millions. No way he dismisses that like nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Manny had two ko losses in his earlier career as well. Within his first ten fights. He came back and is now Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Manny will do well if stays away from counter punchers.
Rios might have done his homework and tweaked his style a bit but i doubt it.
Bob knows what he is doing putting pac in against rios and after the 24/7 episodes and all the press conferences the hype will be raised and pac will be in the mix again.
I would love to see pac fight khan.
I like the way rios fights, i like watching him, but i think pac will batter him until he gives up
unless pac is shot
No one knows how a fighter will react to a brutal KO, even the fighter themselves. So it will be interesting and a testimony to Manny’s character to take the punches and win the fight.
Before I go to the book maker can you tell us if it was part of the Canelo KOING Floyd dream ,Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
cheers Brock ;D
Yes, you owe me 15 Guineas :-\ ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBefore I go to the book maker can you tell us if it was part of the Canelo KOING Floyd dream ,Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
cheers Brock ;D
Pacquiao will stop Rios Early. To say Rios is one dimensional is to do a disservice to the letters on this page. He has no idea, and not many brain cells left with which to learn another way to fight.To risk further compromising his ability to string words of more than one syllable together he needs to stfu with his lame jokes about other peoples disabilities and start concentrating on upping his game and learning how to utilise some kind of basic defensive skill set.At this stage being knocked out in the final trilogy fight with Alvarado is pretty likely, being stopped by somebody, however battle worn, of Manny's character is almost an odds on certainty.
Remember when Margarito was going to fight Manny and they showed the pre fight show, they had Rios as the clown in Marg's camp. Who would have thought a few years later he would be the one fighting Pacquiau.
Agreed. I dont see Manny's career ending well just because of the way he fights. Once it all starts to go downhill its not going to be pretty. It would not surprise me to see him stopped by people that could not carry his jock 2 years ago. I hope he gets out before that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
This would make for an interesting thread: Best Comeback after Brutal KO LossQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Off the top of my head: Julian Jackson brutally KO'ed Terry Norris. But Norris went on to KO The Beast Mugabi...thus beginning a rather impressive reign as JrMW Champion.
Pacman is done. There will be no Floyd fight, he will be very lucky to get through this fight.
Pac either gets knocked out or does just enough to escape with a decision.. im betting on the latter.
Rios is too slow and basic to win imo. Of course he can win through sheer will but Im guessing that pac still has the speed to beat him to the punch.
Rios is no Marquez. He has to get to Manny to wear him down. With his slow hands, lack of one punch power and lack of head movement, He'll get cut to ribbons on the way in.