Why do Eastern European fighters hate to fight outside of Germany?

I always wondered what was up with that?!?! Eastern European fighters hate to fight outside of Germany, or anywhere west of Berlin... why is that??

Because only Britain and Germany have a good social benefit system. ;D

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Because only Britain and Germany have a good social benefit system. ;D

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lololol... figures.
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Because their styles are only popular in Eastern Europe and Germany, theres no intrest from the British or American public to see European fighters such as Pulev or Povetkin

Because thankfully for them boxing is big enough in Germany that they make excellent money and when they venture out they get "robbed"

Why do American fighters hate to fight outside the US?

Why to UK fighters hate to fight outside the UK?

Seems to me Kovalev, the Klitschkos, Adamek and many other Eastern European boxers don't mind fighting outside of Germany.

A lot of it is based on which promoter the fighter signs with. If he's with Sauerland or something, he'll fight in Germany, for example. If he's with Matchroom, Britain. If he's with Top Rank, U.S. Notice that Lomchenko (sp?) signed with Top Rank and I imagine will be fighting in the U.S. Same with Korobov--he's with Top Rank, and I'm not even sure he's ever fought in Germany. Other fighters go where the money is best, like Kovalev, who isn't with Top Rank, but he's fighting in the U.S.

The cruiserweight division isn't big in the U.S., but it is big in Germany, and Cunningham fought a bunch in Germany as a result.

Money

Think it's probably been covered basically. Boxing is popular there and certain promoters have a clear footing in that market, as happens most anywhere else. I don't know for sure but do imagine that the typical eastern European style is given more credit by the public and possibly officials as well in many cases. I know I don't want to watch the Povetkins or Pulevs of the world. Adamek and Kovalev could be from anywhere and they would have done fine outside of their homeland, those are exciting fighters.

Geographically they are closer to their fans and fanbase. They can make more money with their style which is better appreciated over there. I find it boring most of the time. The good ones will come over eventually.

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24

Because their styles are only popular in Eastern Europe and Germany, theres no intrest from the British or American public to see European fighters such as Pulev or Povetkin

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Povetkin stops most of his opponents and is more exciting to watch than Mayweather and many other American boxers.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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That's nonsense.

GGG is currently the best MW, Wlad is the best HW, KOvalev could be the best light HW, Adamek was the best CW.

And just wait until you see the next wave, Lomachenko and the others.

I think i know why were slowly turning into eastside saddos, we used to have the server crashes and the stupid weren't able to find their way back, now it's been years since one so the stupid just piled on...saddo can you go ahead and crash the servers for a week?

This is such a US thing to say yet they never say anything about US fighters not leaving the US. Can you blame them? Look what happened to Sturm when he fought de la Hoya.

Also any world class eastern block fighter does seem to travel, Adamek, Klits, GGG. Could someone name a few current top fighters from this region who could fight someone in the US for money they are getting fighting at home or in Germany?

Im sure everyone coiuld name plenty of American fighters!

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

This is such a US thing to say yet they never say anything about US fighters not leaving the US. Can you blame them? Look what happened to Sturm when he fought de la Hoya.

Also any world class eastern block fighter does seem to travel, Adamek, Klits, GGG. Could someone name a few current top fighters from this region who could fight someone in the US for money they are getting fighting at home or in Germany?

Im sure everyone coiuld name plenty of American fighters!

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To be fair Strurm has been a homer ever since that fight and has plenty of opportunities to leave his country but has stayed at home and won with home town decisions himself.

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24

Because their styles are only popular in Eastern Europe and Germany, theres no intrest from the British or American public to see European fighters such as Pulev or Povetkin

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Povetkin stops most of his opponents and is more exciting to watch than Mayweather and many other American boxers.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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That's nonsense.

GGG is currently the best MW, Wlad is the best HW, KOvalev could be the best light HW, Adamek was the best CW.

And just wait until you see the next wave, Lomachenko and the others.

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GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama.. But still, he's not the best of the division until he beats Quillin and Martinez...

Kovalev " Could " be, as you said but he's not there yet.. And Adamek " was "...

Lomachenko is an unknown commodity

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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Sir, you are trolling again, what really gets me is that you always get a bite. lol You are a Master Fisherman.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

I always wondered what was up with that?!?! Eastern European fighters hate to fight outside of Germany, or anywhere west of Berlin... why is that??

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Interesting. Geocentric but only for a certain part of the globe. Whens the last time Floyd left Vegas? Ward from Oakland? Or any other prominent fighter from this continent? We act as if the world revolves around us and bitch and complain about others doing the same shit we do. Hbo rarely leaves this continent.

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Military action doesn't have much to do with boxing ability either:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Certainly not. I was really kidding about Eastern Euro fighters not being good enough but I do feel that they should fight more out of their comfort zone. That's what Im really trying to get at..

I disagree with Boxing not being about race though.. I dont think there is another sport that is more nationalistic than Boxing.

Give Axel Shulz a call, sure he'll tell ya all about it. As has been said, every fighter wishes they were shot callers in there own back yard with a massive fan base. Honestly all the power to them. Henry Maske made a career of it, only to finally lose to a guy who basically made it a point to stay within his State within a Country. Guys like familiar. JC Gomez fought his whole career there and wasn't even born there. Boxing has gone beyond a guy needing to be 'Americanized' to be considered a serious fighter or credible champ and with the mass media available they don't remain just names you have a hard time pronouncing.

Boxing is a niche sport. The key to being a niche sport is carving out a niche to make money. The easiest way to do that is to have local guys fight locally. When guys get big, the easiest way to rile up a fan base is to bring in a guy from somewhere else to fight your local guy. That's why Ward fights in Oakland. You guys don't care, but here in the Bay Area, Ward fights are a big deal. Yeah it's a niche, but that's how the Goosens make money. That's also why the rest of the country doesn't care about Ward. There aren't many crossover stars in boxing, so you have to capitalize locally on guys because your only going to make good money on a fighter for 5 or 6 fights for your typical champion. It's about money and it's not just East Germans so don't judge too harshly.

But there is a reason why the Cuban and Khazak fighters clean up at the Olympics... and a good reason why they don't always make great pro's... and a reason why the USA was dominant at the pro-level in certain weight divisions for years... and why the Mexicans and Eastern Europeans are faring much better these days, much better years all around for Mexican fighters.

What I do not understand is that combat sports are HEAVY in Asia, but they have far fewer international fighters, comparatively speaking, and far fewer champions.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

But there is a reason why the Cuban and Khazak fighters clean up at the Olympics... and a good reason why they don't always make great pro's... and a reason why the USA was dominant at the pro-level in certain weight divisions for years... and why the Mexicans and Eastern Europeans are faring much better these days, much better years all around for Mexican fighters.

What I do not understand is that combat sports are HEAVY in Asia, but they have far fewer international fighters, comparatively speaking, and far fewer champions.
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Yeah cause they mastered the scoring system since they had known nothing else. Imagine if Mongolia had US money for combat sports? Most of the best boxers from eastern Europe have some Mongolian ancestry. Britain has dominated boxing historically more then any other country. Its always intrigued me how a given generation can think they have been the only one. Its the ancestral home of the sport. I dont count Greece.;D

The Cuban least likely to succeed based on pro vs amateur fights absolutely dominated one of the top fighters in the world. Seems at least in his case those 400 amateur fights came in handy. I actually thought it might be his downfall. The golden age of Cuba died years ago buts its nice to see a diamond in the ruff like Rigo come along here and there and not witness the careers of underachievers like Gamboa.