Who will he fight after Povetkin? Who has a chance at beating him?
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Who will he fight after Povetkin? Who has a chance at beating him?
He won't be looking past Povetkin although he's a heavy favourite. I think he'll fight a prospect or two as he looks towards his legacy but I can't see him sticking around for too much longer. All his old challangers are doing the rounds again and he's got nothing else to prove.
Tony Thompson says "third time's the charm."
jesus christ, americans even get sayings wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Wlad says he wants to stay until the Brazil Olympics and fight there so he will be staying around for a bit longer.
Wlad will more than likely fight 1 of the following next: Pulev, Stiverne, or Arreola
No none of them will beat him but out of the 3 I think Arreola could give him the hardest time because he has a solid chin, decent enough boxing skills, and you can tell he's aching for another bite at the apple.
But all I see is KO 8-10, TKO 5, KO 8
I like his pick-up line...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSefWFE_YbI
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Originally Posted by erics44jesus christ, americans even get sayings wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
For the record..........
third time's the charm
Prov. The third time you try to do something, it will work. Jill: I've called Miriam twice, but she doesn't answer her phone. Jane: Try again. The third time's the charm.
See also: charm, third
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
Regardless..... you shouldn't (hypothetically) blame Thompson for having a sense of...
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This is an american idiom taken from an english saying and made shitQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44jesus christ, americans even get sayings wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
For the record..........
third time's the charm
Prov. The third time you try to do something, it will work. Jill: I've called Miriam twice, but she doesn't answer her phone. Jane: Try again. The third time's the charm.
See also: charm, third
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
Regardless..... you shouldn't (hypothetically) blame Thompson for having a sense of...
humor
I'm hopeful he'll fight Arreola. He's got to fight fighters that on paper have a chance of pulling the upset and Arreola's punch power and solid chin would provide an intriguing test. I actually think Chisora wouldn't be a bad fight at this stage if he gets another decent win under his belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I like the idea of an Arreola fight, Cris never smothers himself, he fights at a steady but slow pace, heavy hands, decent fundamentals. I think he and Fury have better styles to offer Wlad as far as being more fluid.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI'm hopeful he'll fight Arreola. He's got to fight fighters that on paper have a chance of pulling the upset and Arreola's punch power and solid chin would provide an intriguing test. I actually think Chisora wouldn't be a bad fight at this stage if he gets another decent win under his belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
are you allowed top hold in the Olympics? or is it a boxing event he is entering?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
arreola is big and cuddly, it would probably be a nice 12 rounds for himQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI like the idea of an Arreola fight, Cris never smothers himself, he fights at a steady but slow pace, heavy hands, decent fundamentals. I think he and Fury have better styles to offer Wlad as far as being more fluid.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI'm hopeful he'll fight Arreola. He's got to fight fighters that on paper have a chance of pulling the upset and Arreola's punch power and solid chin would provide an intriguing test. I actually think Chisora wouldn't be a bad fight at this stage if he gets another decent win under his belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
They have changed the rules, professionals can compete at the next olympics.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44are you allowed top hold in the Olympics? or is it a boxing event he is entering?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I think Arreola has more of a chance than people think. Povetkin was making Wlad retreat in the first few rounds, and easily got inside. Arreola is a MUCH better pressure fighter than Povetkin, and has more power.
Povetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
40 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPovetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight
The clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics4440 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPovetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight
Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.
It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.
The quarter back was also throwing the ball away when he had receiver type guys open and begging for the ball. Sorry but its a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics4440 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPovetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight
Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.
It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.
Man you ARE British, else you would know...Wide outs ALWAYS think they are open Memphis ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Wlad did clinch and tie up more than he needed to, but when he was trying for the KO he wasn't the one holding, he was the one pushing and punching and apparently that was worse than holding in the eyes of the ref.
nope vital differencesQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe clinch is used as a strategy. I would relate it to if a Quarterback drops back to pass and all the Wide Receivers are covered and the QB throws the ball away to avoid a sack.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics4440 clinches in rounds 1-3, is a clinch a retreat?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPovetkin has better footwork but yeah pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
o it cant be otherwise you would have said provetkin was making wlad retreat all the way through the fight
Or in soccer if there's pressure on the Keeper while he's accepting a slow back pass and he quickly boots the ball out of bounds to end the threat to his goal.
It's not a pretty move, but it's a smart one. Wlad used it too often vs Povetkin and Manny Steward would have given him hell in the corner wanting him to get the KO but Wlad's the one doing the fighting he's going to win how he can win, most of the times it's better than that but in the end it's still a win.
keeper clearing the ball is within the rules v holding in boxing is not within the rules
keeper clearing the ball is a defensive reaction v wlads holding is the bases of his whole attacking strategy
you'll never win this argument because i am right and you are wrong
you can come up with all sorts of crazy analogies like the keeper clearing the ball or hatton fouls too or fouls arent fouls unless they are called but nothing can compare or lighted in any way the extremely extreme level of cheating that wlad does and the corruption that surrounds his fights
by the way, if you want to compare the situation with other sports and the level of fouling lets do that
a typical football match perhaps has 15 to 20 fouls perhaps in the 90 minutes, resulting in free kicks and perhaps a penalty or two. Some matches have 1 or 2 yellow cards, some 3 or 4, some have 5 or 6. some of those matches are dirtier than others but all within the acceptable and normal level of dirtyness
on saturday night Klitchko FC played Provetkin FC in a huge internation match, the klitchkos referee arrived at the stadium driving the porche which the evenings pay packet had bought him with the initial payment, the rest of the money would be delivered on certain promises of performance
the game kicks off, the Klitchko players are kicking and handballing and scratching and leg sweeping and pulling the shorts down of the opposition from the very start an no free kicks are given
towards the end of the game the ref awards a penalty (the first foul that he has given against the klit fc) to Provetkin FC the score being 12 - 0 to Klit FC.
the whistle blows and Klit FC comfortably win the game and remain the champions
the ref has delivered on his promises and the receives the remainder of his pay cheque, goes home and books a nice holiday :)
Where's John Ruiz when you need him?
I think Pulev, Stiverne or Arreola are decent challenges if Wlad fights before Fury-Haye takes place. If Fury beat Haye, Fury-Klitschko would be a fun fight while it lasted.