Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe likely to be inducted into HOF in 2014

Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad likely shoo-ins for Boxing Hall of Fame - ESPN

Possible all star HOF induction next year Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe are finally on their first year eligibility to be on ballot, would be an awesome weekend

Interesting.. DLH should be the first name on this post however lol. Calzaghe.. meh. Oscar and Tito at the same time, not sure how I feel about this quite yet. But they both deserve it. Say what you will about them but both of those fuckers had the balls to step out of their weight class and fight a no name Hopkins (to non boxing fans).. Why because Hopkins was the best at middle weight. Shame we don't have that many popular fighters like that anymore that fight the very best.

I give it five minutes before someone mentions Barry McGuigan's name ;D

Ah shit :-\

They all deserve to be in there how can anyone say different Sylvester Stallone was in there and Barry..

Sven Ottke deserves it more than Calzaghe

All 3 on the first ballot and deserving.

the boxing HOF is becoming a joke so they are all for sure in there. i hate how there always has to be a certain amount of people inducted every year. its ridiculous. there are so many undeserved fighters who are getting in or are being considered that are nowhere near the HOF level.

de la hoya for sure deserves to get in no matter not just because his skills and resume of fighters, but because what he did for boxing with his huge fights and his promoting company now. he can actually be given credit for making mayweather a cash cow.

tito deserves it but i would say is more on the lower tier of the people who actually deserve to be in there. he was dominant and was a great fighter and lost to the best 2 fighters he fought (bhop and de la hoya, and yes, he easily lost to de la hoya even though the judges disagreed). but he deserves to be in there.

calzaghe is probably about on the lowest tier of deserving to get in. he had a few solid wins but nothing great. most of his competition wasnt that good. he did dominate 168 for a long time though and beat pretty much everyone he should have.

but again, with the easiness of getting in now, they all more than deserve to be in.

I don't know what the HOF is all about really. Surely any fighter who has held a belt is going to get in at some point and considering belt expansionism, I am sure that it will at some stage be a considerable minority of the worlds population.

As for Calzaghe he would P4P slap Tito and DLH on the same evening and then show DLH how a real man handles his night out on the town. Tito in particular was a one trick pony and DLH had stamina issues. Calzaghe's only flaw was his autobiography and the first round on the downside of 30.

only the Golden Boy derserves it out of those 3. How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

Trinidad would be the second inductee on the list IMO. Great puncher, great heart, a bit shitty on the boxing ability and versatility, couldnt adjust in the ring, 1-dimensional, GOT HIS ASS LICKED REAL GOOD by ODLH and the whole world knows it. Got spanked and taught a boxing lesson that night against Oscar.

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How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

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What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

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How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

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What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

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at least you didn't include the Jones fight cause that was a farce, and he "beat" Hopkins, I and many had B-Hop winning that fight, IMO he's (Calzaghe) a bit overrated but like you said he fought what was available at the time, but again, the super middleweight division and the 2 rounds surrounding it were pretty weak at the time, but that's just bad luck on Joe's part, if he was in his prime today with the level of opposition available today he'd have the chance to put a real stamp on his resume with no questions asked, IMO all 3 guys are worthy, 3 multi division champs, dominant, and good resume's, and all 3 were HUGE attractions and brought in HUGE crowds

Because those three fighters were so high profile they are virtual certs to get voted in. Which is a shame for the current retired most deserved fighter


Whoomp there it is!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXcgZ84ndk

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How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

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What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

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I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?" Then in Rd. 2 Calzaghe was ready to eat shit, he got whacked with a right hook that twisted his head halfway round and down he went. and the Mitchell got careless throwing all caution to the wind and left himself wide open. Any decent fighter would have finished Calzaghe in the 2nd round. He didnt even know where he was after Mitchell knocked him down, and was ripe for the picking. Calzaghe missed 2/3 of his punches trying to finish Mitchell, throwing arm punches and slaps very fast--- and what a shit stoppage that was! Mitchell was regrouping and landed a beautiful left hook and 2 straight right counterpunches on Calzaghe, and the ref stops the fight. The ring doctor himself told the ref that Mitchell was OK. Mitchell tripped on Calzaghe's feet after blocking 4 slaps, and stumbled back to the ropes. No punch even landed, their feet got tangled up. Bullshit win against a decent fighter.

Joe Calzaghe---like I said before, WAY overrated, arm puncher, very fast though, but too too many rabbit shots as in the clinch the southpaw can easily loop around and whack behind the head. Got away with far too many.

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How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

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What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

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I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

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Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

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How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

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What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

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I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

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Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

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KOs against who?? Anybody a Grade-A fighter? Name the great KOs. I mean seriously, Branko Sobat? Will McIntyre? Kabery Salem? Oh and my favourite of the lot, Tocker Pudwill! It makes me laugh when criticism of Calzaghe is lazily put down to "American jealousy". Could you imagine if the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya had continuously defended their titles against opponents of the caliber of Pudwill and McIntyre? They would have been savaged by the US boxing media. quality challengers like Robin Reid (who he narrowly beat), and Byron Mitchell (who dropped him and should have easily finished him) were the exception rather than the rule. My point is: Where was the craving for the big fights and willingness to travel Stateside that Ricky Hatton had? This is what Calzaghe should have been doing. Going over to America and demanding the big fights, as well as dumping the weak WBO title. But, like I said earlier, Joe seemed happy just to stay at home and pick up easy paychecks.

lol Tocker Pudwill. He even sounds like a bum.

To me, I give Calzaghe big credit for three fights: Lacy, Kessler and Bhop.

The rest... ehhh... whatever. Bika is a good fighter. Eubank was well passed it. Whatever.

Steve Collins ducked him though.

He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

Yeah I don't know why anyone would care about someone beating Roy Jones after the Glen Johnson fight and Tarver 3. A lot of people took it as some kind of confirmation that prime Calzaghe > prime Jones, which is just rediculous. Calzaghe would have struggled to win a round vs prime Jones.

Behave for fucks sake.

Calzaghe was constantly slated by British boxing media. You're naming fighters that were late replacements brought in to save the date (this happens virtually every week in boxing).

Calzaghe never headlined a show in front of more than 3000 people until the Lacy fight. He was a complete and utter nobody in Britain, he only found fame in the latter part of his career. Believe it or not, he didn't spend the majority of his career as some British superstar packing out stadiums and raking in millions fighting "bums"

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He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

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You sir, don't have a clue. On what planet does Edison Miranda 'royally smoke' Calzaghe? There's having an opinion and then there's embarrassing yourself. Actually it's quite funny. Please continue.

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KOs against who?? Anybody a Grade-A fighter? Name the great KOs. I mean seriously, Branko Sobat? Will McIntyre? Kabery Salem? Oh and my favourite of the lot, Tocker Pudwill! It makes me laugh when criticism of Calzaghe is lazily put down to "American jealousy". Could you imagine if the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya had continuously defended their titles against opponents of the caliber of Pudwill and McIntyre? They would have been savaged by the US boxing media. quality challengers like Robin Reid (who he narrowly beat), and Byron Mitchell (who dropped him and should have easily finished him) were the exception rather than the rule. My point is: Where was the craving for the big fights and willingness to travel Stateside that Ricky Hatton had? This is what Calzaghe should have been doing. Going over to America and demanding the big fights, as well as dumping the weak WBO title. But, like I said earlier, Joe seemed happy just to stay at home and pick up easy paychecks.

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And what about Marciano's ko ratio to quality ko's? How about Tyson? And again with the inference that he somehow ducked someone by staying at home. Who?

Great fighters get dropped all the time, have in the past and will continue to be. So what?

Give me an example of a fight that he should have made but didn't. Based on your testimony here today there ought to be several. I'm only asking for 1. There are only a handful of guys that might beat Joe at 168 in the history of the sport and none of them are fighting today save one that is a write off in Roy Jones. Calzaghe is a shoe in to the Hall.

Calzaghe doesn't get enough credit for the Roy win. Roy was coming off a decent win streak that included Trinidad.

Roy detonates a brutal forearm smash on Calzaghe's chin. HBO are wanking about how great Roy is, everyone is laughing at Calzaghe. Two rounds later Cazlaghe is clowning Roy and HBO are giggling and waxing lyrical about how great Calzaghe is. For two old guys past their best it was entertaining.

Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

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Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

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and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

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He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

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What a pile of unimaginative krap. It's almost as bad as Bachman Turner Overdrive's "You ain't seen nothing yet" for mediocrity and quite nauseous in it's use of regurgitated verbatim second hand opinion. Calzaghe would have painted the canvas with all of the guys you mention. Dawson, Tarver , Miranda ? Come on now that is just childish.

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He would have been royally smoked like a Scottish Chubby (or a Welsh Rabbit) by Chad Dawson, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jermaine Taylor, Antonio Tarver, Edison Miranda, and a younger Hopkins would have destroyed him. Destroyed him. RJJ wold have killed him even at age 35. But Jones was 2 months from 40 years old when they fought.

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What a pile of unimaginative krap. It's almost as bad as Bachman Turner Overdrive's "You ain't seen nothing yet" for mediocrity and quite nauseous in it's use of regurgitated verbatim second hand opinion. Calzaghe would have painted the canvas with all of the guys you mention. Dawson, Tarver , Miranda ? Come on now that is just childish.

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Beanz he's at it again, JC baiting is he fucking with us Yep he's doing a Tom Jones it's not unusual.;D

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Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

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and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

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Cotto and Margarito are borderline... just barrrrely by a pin..

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Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

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and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

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Cotto and Margarito are borderline... just barrrrely by a pin..

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when the word borderline and Margarito are in the same sentence it's not in reference to him getting in the HOF, cause he's no where near the HOF

Cotto has wins over the likes of Bazan, Maussa, N'dou, Bailey, Corley, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi, Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Clottey, Mayorga, and Margarito on his record

that's a HOF line up

Margarito is close to borderline..... in the same sense that Tyson Fury, his stablemate Brandon Rios, or our own Finito's posting is for that matter. Insert your adjective.

Anyone who doesn't think Cotto had a much more impressive career is being a troll.

As for the thread, these three are clearly all deserving first ballot guys. Would be more interested in hearing who else is in or who might not be still from some years ago. Is there a deadline on how long since a fighter retired they can be inducted?

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Margarito is close to borderline..... in the same sense that Tyson Fury, his stablemate Brandon Rios, or our own Finito's posting is for that matter. Insert your adjective.

Anyone who doesn't think Cotto had a much more impressive career is being a troll.

As for the thread, these three are clearly all deserving first ballot guys. Would be more interested in hearing who else is in or who might not be still from some years ago. Is there a deadline on how long since a fighter retired they can be inducted?

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they have to be retired for 5 yrs, hence why both Morales and Barrera still haven't been inducted, if not they'd already be in

Yea but I mean the other way. Say they have been retired much longer, are they always still eligible? Just strikes me on any given year they may have more deserving guys from years ago who were overlooked, but I don't know enough about it.

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Oscar certainly belongs in the Hall..

Tito too...

As for Calzaghe, not really feeling it but whatever. He's barely gets in I guess kinda like Cotto..

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and he has exactly what to do with this thread?! well on that same note anywho, if Cotto "barely" gets in, Margarito definitely never gets in haha

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Cotto and Margarito are borderline... just barrrrely by a pin..

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when the word borderline and Margarito are in the same sentence it's not in reference to him getting in the HOF, cause he's no where near the HOF

Cotto has wins over the likes of Bazan, Maussa, N'dou, Bailey, Corley, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi, Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Clottey, Mayorga, and Margarito on his record

that's a HOF line up

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Wow lol..u really gonna reach for bazan, maussa, dou, bailey, torres, branco, branco? Haha those guys were journeymen and fringe contenders.

He got a gift over clottey and mosley and mayorga were shot dude....

Cotto never beat a great fighter in their prime.. fact like I said, he's a borderline hofer..

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Yea but I mean the other way. Say they have been retired much longer, are they always still eligible? Just strikes me on any given year they may have more deserving guys from years ago who were overlooked, but I don't know enough about it.

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There is no statute of limitations per say but many who deserved to be in by now will not get in and 3 new names are added to the list each year to replace those that get in. They should change the modern day beginning at 1943 to 1970 or something. Some guys have been ignored for decades. Hell even Eubank and Benn have been eligible for over a 10 years and guys like Pintor and Hernandez more the 15.

Ricky Hatton all the way, there is a brave fighter who traveled and fought the best. Will always love and respect Ricky Hatton. A true fighter, brave and willing to expand his horizons.

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Ricky Hatton all the way, there is a brave fighter who traveled and fought the best. Will always love and respect Ricky Hatton. A true fighter, brave and willing to expand his horizons.

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Lots of hall of famers never left their home turf for tons of reasons.

there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

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there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

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Hop was 44 yrs old. Plus Hop won. ;)
Eubank was well past it in 1997 as well.
RJJ had had 3 fights with Tarver already, KO'ed by Glencoffee as well. when they fought. and 40 yrs old.:rolleyes:

i wasnt gonna open this thread because i saw that it was about calzaghe and the hall of fame

i knew as soon as i opened it the first thing i would read is all the reasons why calzaghe should be in

and i wasnt disapointed

mongs

People act like he was in his prime when he got to Jones and Hop he was champ for over 10 years and he was in his mid to late 30's. He belongs no doubt and Brock man i don't get you your favorite fighter was undefeated in the weakest era of all time damn near and don't hate him.