How would Cotto with Roach in his corner do against Floyd in a rematch?
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How would Cotto with Roach in his corner do against Floyd in a rematch?
Roach said if he was in Cottos corner during the Mayweather fight Cotto would have won. I don't know, I suspect the results would be the same. Seeing how Cotto progresses in his comeback will be interesting but if we were going to start seeing Floyd rematches I would prefer JMM.
I know i'm in the minority but I think the first fight was a draw and it is without doubt flloyds toughest fight since castillo - rematch I say!
P.s. not anti flloyd bias, I had money on flloyd to put cotto away within 7 rounds!
i like a rematch between those two.
With Floyd Sr in MM corner, the fight might look just like the Canelo fight. Floyd Made that first fight interesting by fight within Cotto's range. A 2nd fight, Floyd would still be to fast and elusive.
The 1st fight wasn't even close why would there be a rematch cause cotto just stopped a bumb. Floyds beats him easy again,if floyds to have any rematches make it against Marquez but I'm sure I read Marquez said he's not interested in fighting floyd again
ok, so why would he rematch Marquez which wasn't competetive at all? and not rematch Cotto who gave him his toughest fight? don't get your logic at allQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Because Marquez is the only fighter to have went on to be succsessful after fighting floyd usually after someone gets owned by floyd they go downhill but Marquez has got better so if anyone is due a rematch it's him. Also cotto is done and the fight wasn't remotely close if cotto wants a rematch it's for the payday cotto and everyone else knows he has zero chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesok, so why would he rematch Marquez which wasn't competetive at all? and not rematch Cotto who gave him his toughest fight? don't get your logic at allQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
how? he beat a guy he's already beaten 3 times before, Mayweather's last 2 opponents haven't gone on to fight again, and Mayweather has never ruined a fighter unless you want to well count Hatton, which would well be reaching a bit, IMO Mayweather shouldn't rematch either, but it makes zero sense that Mayweather should rematch a guy who he pitched a shut out against after nearly a 2 yr layoff whom he could have KO'd at any point and not rematch the guy who's given him his toughest fight, Mayweather should either fight the Pacquiao/Rios winner, Broner/Maidana winner, or even someone like Lara or TroutQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Because Marquez is the only fighter to have went on to be succsessful after fighting floyd usually after someone gets owned by floyd they go downhill but Marquez has got better so if anyone is due a rematch it's him. Also cotto is done and the fight wasn't remotely close if cotto wants a rematch it's for the payday cotto and everyone else knows he has zero chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesok, so why would he rematch Marquez which wasn't competetive at all? and not rematch Cotto who gave him his toughest fight? don't get your logic at allQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow? he beat a guy he's already beaten 3 times before, Mayweather's last 2 opponents haven't gone on to fight again, and Mayweather has never ruined a fighter unless you want to well count Hatton, which would well be reaching a bit, IMO Mayweather shouldn't rematch either, but it makes zero sense that Mayweather should rematch a guy who he pitched a shut out against after nearly a 2 yr layoff whom he could have KO'd at any point and not rematch the guy who's given him his toughest fight, Mayweather should either fight the Pacquiao/Rios winner, Broner/Maidana winner, or even someone like Lara or TroutQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Because Marquez is the only fighter to have went on to be succsessful after fighting floyd usually after someone gets owned by floyd they go downhill but Marquez has got better so if anyone is due a rematch it's him. Also cotto is done and the fight wasn't remotely close if cotto wants a rematch it's for the payday cotto and everyone else knows he has zero chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesok, so why would he rematch Marquez which wasn't competetive at all? and not rematch Cotto who gave him his toughest fight? don't get your logic at allQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
What shit are you talking name me what fighters have went on to big things after fighting floyd
Guerrero hasn't fought since so you can't put him in that boat, same goes for CaneloQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshow? he beat a guy he's already beaten 3 times before, Mayweather's last 2 opponents haven't gone on to fight again, and Mayweather has never ruined a fighter unless you want to well count Hatton, which would well be reaching a bit, IMO Mayweather shouldn't rematch either, but it makes zero sense that Mayweather should rematch a guy who he pitched a shut out against after nearly a 2 yr layoff whom he could have KO'd at any point and not rematch the guy who's given him his toughest fight, Mayweather should either fight the Pacquiao/Rios winner, Broner/Maidana winner, or even someone like Lara or TroutQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Because Marquez is the only fighter to have went on to be succsessful after fighting floyd usually after someone gets owned by floyd they go downhill but Marquez has got better so if anyone is due a rematch it's him. Also cotto is done and the fight wasn't remotely close if cotto wants a rematch it's for the payday cotto and everyone else knows he has zero chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesok, so why would he rematch Marquez which wasn't competetive at all? and not rematch Cotto who gave him his toughest fight? don't get your logic at allQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
What shit are you talking name me what fighters have went on to big things after fighting floyd
Castillo went onto his prime and best run after his losses to Floyd, Diego Corrales had a good run after his loss to Floyd, Jesus Chavez won a title afterwards, El Famoso Hernandez became El Salvador's first world champion after Floyd, hell Hatton still went on to have decent wins over Lazcano and Malignaggi
what young fighter did Floyd ever "ruin"?
A never said anything about age. Corrales he was not the same fighter after floyd, Castillo is questionable Chavez won a title lol who did he beat to win it and every decent fighter he thought after floyd beat him, hatton are you serious floyd ended his career and Hernandez I don't know much about him to comment. Also Canelo will struggle to bounce back after what floyd did to him Guerrero I didn't rate him much to begin with.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, Corrales really?! did you not see Corrales/Castillo?! :-X Chavez put up a hell of a fight against Morales while Morales was looking damn near unstoppable, and he had wins over Hernandez (albeit IMO Hernandez won), and well every one knows what happened in the Johnson fight, Hatton did manage to brutalized Malignaggi who many feel gave Broner his toughest fight since De Leon, Castillo questionable?! he had back to back wins against Lazcano, Casamayor, and Diaz, your break down as to why Marquez deserves a rematch and your theory about Floyd "ruining" guys, especially guys like Canelo and Guerrero who haven't even fought since is funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Lol who the fucks Pauli he's shit and broner has still to face an A level fighter and I've watched the corrals Castillo fight a few time Noway was Castillo the same fighter after floyd.
right, a two division champion, and one of the toughest bastards at that weight, you're retarded haha, Marquez hasn't done a damn thing to deserve a rematch nor does a rematch make sense, he's arguably already 4-0 against Pacquiao, he hasn't changed a damn thing he fights exactly the same and Mayweather will beat him just the same, no point in a rematch, his biggest moments since Mayweather? 2 more wins over the same fighter :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Lmao Pauli is shit Noway is he an great fighter if he was any good he would of got a fight with floyd by now. When floyd thought Marquez it was his 1st time at the weight and floyd looked bigger and stronger than him if they were to fight now it would be more competitive floyd would still win but it would be better than cotto floyd 2 Marquez has looked better since fighting floyd weres cotto looks to be on the slide and don't bring up that bumb he just beat.
:vd: so now you're shit if you don't fight Floyd?! lol Martinez has never fought Floyd so is he shit? lol Pacquiao never fought Floyd is he a crap fighter? haha Marquez has looked better cause HE FUCKING FOUGHT MANNY PACQUIAO, A GUY HE'S PRETTY MUCH BEATEN EVERY TIME OUT! Marquez' first fight at that weight and Floyd's first fight in 2 years, so whats your point, it was due to Floyd's inactivity that he didn't go for the KO against Marquez cause he could have stopped him at any time after the KD, Marquez/Floyd 2 would be even more one sided and Mayweather would go for the stoppage this time around, Cotto gave him his hardest fight and then lost to Austin FUCKING Trout, the same guy who took Canelo to the limit and arguably beat him, he didn't lose to some BUM (the damn word doesn't have a b at the end), he looked sharp and was working the body well, Rodriguez wasn't a measuring stick by any means but he showed he still has something left, AND AS I SAID COTTO doesn't win a rematch either, nor should he be Floyd's next fight, but it's retarded as fuck that you try to build up Marquez' case to be more deserving of a rematch against Floyd rather than the guy who gave him a tougher fight haha it's just simple logic buddy but you seem to be lacking that a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
You chat so much shit u bell end what I said about Pauli was if he was that good or as good as you seem to think people would of been asking for them to fight but since everyone knows he's not at that level no one ever wanted to see it. Marquez has had 6 fights since he went in with floyd won 5 of then and the 1 he lost well a lot of people think different so yes he does deserve a rematch before cotto retard what's cotto done since floyd absolute fuck all
Cotto fought him last year and the fact that he gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Marquez says it all you blithering idiot, you part of NEITHER deserve a rematch does your little delicate brain not understand? and Juan Diaz already had gotten his ass beat by Marquez so why does that fight matter? Ramos and Fedchenko were worse opponents than Rodriguez lol the only real fights Marquez has had since Mayweather are the two fights against Pacquiao and how many times do I have to repeat it Marquez is already pretty much 4-0 against Manny so why is that anymore impressive than anything he already did prior to Mayweather? get off the guys dick, neither Marquez or Cotto should be rematching Mayweather, Marquez needs to get past Bradley before looking for a next big fight anyway, his best option would be the Broner/Maidana winner or Cotto himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesCotto fought him last year and the fact that he gave Mayweather a tougher fight than Marquez says it all you blithering idiot, you part of NEITHER deserve a rematch does your little delicate brain not understand? and Juan Diaz already had gotten his ass beat by Marquez so why does that fight matter? Ramos and Fedchenko were worse opponents than Rodriguez lol the only real fights Marquez has had since Mayweather are the two fights against Pacquiao and how many times do I have to repeat it Marquez is already pretty much 4-0 against Manny so why is that anymore impressive than anything he already did prior to Mayweather? get off the guys dick, neither Marquez or Cotto should be rematching Mayweather, Marquez needs to get past Bradley before looking for a next big fight anyway, his best option would be the Broner/Maidana winner or Cotto himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
Bahahaha ok retard
I must say.... I respect Floyd as one of the best fighters ever, and I give him credit for a lot of things.
But I'll be damned if Floyd's ever been credited with "ruining" anyone.
BTW... the Floyd-Cotto fight, as much as Cotto haters don't like to hear it... was more competitive than most of Floyd's fights in the last few years. And this includes the Floyd-JMM fight. Not saying Cotto would win a rematch with Floyd.... not saying that at all.
But Cotto not the same after the Floyd fight?? :rolleyes:
Margarito ruined Cotto, Floyd didnt do shit. Floyd needs a real fight man, not no cotto rematch.
this is almost as stupid as the gay bashing threads... no this is more stupid.
Mayweather vs Marquez - CompuBox Stats
Floyd Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto - CompuBox Stats
here are the punch stats for both the JMM vs Mayweather and the Cotto vs Mayweather fights.
JMM landed single digits in EVERY ROUND!!! finishing the fight with a whopping 16% connect percentage. he deserves what?
Cotto was a tougher fight for Mayweather than the Marquez fight. But a lot of that was due to the way Mayweather elected to fight Cotto than anything Cotto did. Cotto is a warrior and has been one of my favorites since the first time I saw him. But I think if Mayweather would of fought him the way he fought Canelo and Guerrero there fight would of been just as one sided as they were
fixed it for you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Oh-oh...... FACTS.
I'm not sure Finito will know how to deal with this new and unfamiliar territory. ;)
I like this fight. I think Miguel makes things uncomfortable for him if he fights aggressively,and forces Floyd to dig deep. In the first fight he have Floyd some issues, but I felt he tried to outbox Floyd(never happen), n fought the wrong fight. I still think Floyd wins the rematch, maybe even by late stoppage,but takes more punishment and has a much rougher go of it. I was impressed with Cottos last performance but that guy isn't a quarter of what Floyd is. Still, that style will bother Floyd n allow Miguel to have more success than a straight up boxing match does.