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i had JMM winning 116-112. there were definitely some close rounds but 116-112 for bradley is a bit wide. im not saying that this is a terrible decision but i did think that JMM definitely deserved the nod. i assumed that after bradley got the gift against pac, that the judges would be more harsh on him (not that im saying i would agree with that). i just do not like bradley. especially the face he made when the one scorecard was given to JMM. does he actually think he won convincingly? i have never liked bradley and i still dont.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
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I can't say one way or another. The link I had kept slowing up and speeding down. What I made out was JMM doing well but too much of the fight wasn't playing right.I have to say if Bradley did get a clean win good for him. in both the Prod and Manny fight he got some gifts. I really thought JMM would dominate and apparently I was wrong. I guess Bradley v Mayweather would be in the picture now. Will he rematch Manny to see if he can cement his standing. Well, good for Bradley, always nice to see a bunch of sad Mexicans and LGBTs on the same night.
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Yes Bradley had HBO giving him the fight 10-2.
The fix was in.
This was a closer fight than the Bradley Pac fight, but Bradley still lost.
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It was a close fight.
The HBO commentators were extremely biased against Marquez.
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Yes Bradley had HBO giving him the fight 10-2.
The fix was in.
This was a closer fight than the Bradley Pac fight, but Bradley still lost.
Don't see it as a gift, very close fight that I personally had a draw but I saw no domination and in no way do I see 10-2 that's crazy
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I had Bradley 8-4. The fight was at a pace that JMM couldn't handle and he spent a lot of time looking for openings that he either couldn't find or capitalize on. I thought he seemed lost a lot of the time.
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I wouldnt call it a gift. It was close. I saw a lot of punches blocked in the middle rounds where the. commintators were giving them to bradley marquez had the same problem he did against chris john and that is he didnt do enought to win the fight on points.
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my problem is that it was fought at a slower pace than marquez wanted, but bradley fought very slowly too. marquez seemed to land the better punches through most of the rounds. bradley usually likes fighting at a faster pace and winning because he overwhelms his opponent. he didnt do that at all.
maybe saying a gift is a bit much but i thought that JMM definitely deserved the W.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
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As someone who believes Marquez has 3 wins and a draw over Pac, and came into tonight's fight thinking 'no one can beat Marquez except Mayweather,' I have to say Marquez clearly got out boxed tonight. 115-113 is the closest score I could consider. Bradley (just like Garcia) must now be considered in the P4P. Head butts notwithstanding, that could be an interesting fight w FMM.
On a side note, if JMM is going to continue, he needs to have someone else in the corner with him DURING the fight. IMO Nacho was completely ineffective. Don't think hes too old; JMM needed fresh eyes to help him execute what he is capable of. Someone to say 'right counter over the jab' and 'focus on the body this round.' If he gets that, I think he can still compete P4P.
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As someone who believes Marquez has 3 wins and a draw over Pac, and came into tonight's fight thinking 'no one can beat Marquez except Mayweather,' I have to say Marquez clearly got out boxed tonight. 115-113 is the closest score I could consider. Bradley (just like Garcia) must now be considered in the P4P. Head butts notwithstanding, that could be an interesting fight w FMM.
On a side note, if JMM is going to continue, he needs to have someone else in the corner with him DURING the fight. IMO Nacho was completely ineffective. Don't think hes too old; JMM needed fresh eyes to help him execute what he is capable of. Someone to say 'right counter over the jab' and 'focus on the body this round.' If he gets that, I think he can still compete P4P.
how is it possible that you've been a member on saddo's since 2005 and only have 1 cool click that i just gave you 2 minutes ago?
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What was clear tonight is that Marquez based his world around fighting a southpaw of a certain style. Every uppercut he threw tonight that landed on Manny missed Bradley.
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As someone who believes Marquez has 3 wins and a draw over Pac, and came into tonight's fight thinking 'no one can beat Marquez except Mayweather,' I have to say Marquez clearly got out boxed tonight. 115-113 is the closest score I could consider. Bradley (just like Garcia) must now be considered in the P4P. Head butts notwithstanding, that could be an interesting fight w FMM.
On a side note, if JMM is going to continue, he needs to have someone else in the corner with him DURING the fight. IMO Nacho was completely ineffective. Don't think hes too old; JMM needed fresh eyes to help him execute what he is capable of. Someone to say 'right counter over the jab' and 'focus on the body this round.' If he gets that, I think he can still compete P4P.
how is it possible that you've been a member on saddo's since 2005 and only have 1 cool click that i just gave you 2 minutes ago?
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I've said all along and maintain if Marquez wants to be at his best he needs to lose some of that bulk. Unless he intends to sit on one punch all fight every fight it isn't serving him well.
FTR I was rooting for Marquez but thought Bradley clearly won.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
i had it tied after 6 rounds. 7-9 i thought that JMM won. the rest of the rounds were close but i only gave bradley round 11 out of those 3. i felt like marquez definitely did better later in the fight than bradley did. he started coming on and landing.
not that i dont get how some people could think that bradley won, but i am very surprised that more of the majority had him winning. even when im with the minority, i can still say that maybe i just looked for something different in the fight, but this fight i cannot see how so many people thought that bradley won. i thought that marquez was just more effective. neither did much and just threw a few punches per round but marquez' punches were the ones landing with more power and more cleanly.
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
i had it tied after 6 rounds. 7-9 i thought that JMM won. the rest of the rounds were close but i only gave bradley round 11 out of those 3. i felt like marquez definitely did better later in the fight than bradley did. he started coming on and landing.
not that i dont get how some people could think that bradley won, but i am very surprised that more of the majority had him winning. even when im with the minority, i can still say that maybe i just looked for something different in the fight, but this fight i cannot see how so many people thought that bradley won. i thought that marquez was just more effective. neither did much and just threw a few punches per round but marquez' punches were the ones landing with more power and more cleanly.
I had it close after six also but that's because I'm a die hard Marquez fan. Tim fought a smart fight and Marquez looked like retirement. I just dont see how anyone calls this for Marquez. I bet the press scores will sustain my thoughts.
Saddo needs a fight revisiting area. People re-watch it at an agreed time with time zones being considered and then score it all together and list our cards justifying them.
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I think people just hate Bradley from what i am hearing man he clearly won that fight. As for the Pac figtht he had a big time injury but still went the distance and won good amount of rounds. His last fight he fought the worst i ever saw him fight still thought he deserved the nod. Bradley has got to be the biggest over achievers there has ever been since Holyfeild been watching him from the start and i think he will go on to do great things still. People said he get killed in this fight but he ended up out boxing Marquez people i thinks just don't like the dude don't know why at all.
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
His left uppercut worked well under the jab with Manny but he missed the same punch tonight with Bradley. No body attack at all either but Tim deserves credit for that also. Not sure why he never tried from the right more? A kind of south paw affliction and then w/o that his right hand was a non factor.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
Marquez swept the last 4 rounds. Bradley lost the entire 12th until he lucked out n landed that hook with his eyes closed cus Marquez got stupid.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
Marquez swept the last 4 rounds. Bradley lost the entire 12th until he lucked out n landed that hook with his eyes closed cus Marquez got stupid.
No he didn't. Put the dam fight up somewhere and lets score it rd by rd.
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I have never agreed with any scoring that Hulk does since being on the form to honest with you. I not sure what he scores his fights on because i can't see a score with Bradley losing it. i would love to see what rounds you gave Marquez hulk i am really wondering dude.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
Marquez swept the last 4 rounds. Bradley lost the entire 12th until he lucked out n landed that hook with his eyes closed cus Marquez got stupid.
No he didn't. Put the dam fight up somewhere and lets score it rd by rd.
It's real easy to score just mute it.
Marquez landed the cleaner more effective shots while Bradley ran, missed, and landed up jabs.
Marquez won 116-112 or 115-113 at worst.
After 9 I had it 5-4 Marquez at worst.
Bradley only won the 2nd out of the first 4 rounds.
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Ok hulk try taking jmm dick out of your mouth and tell how the hell you gave him so many rounds early in that fight really dude. I mean Bradley was pretty much pot shotting and jmm missed shit ton of his shots.
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
His left uppercut worked well under the jab with Manny but he missed the same punch tonight with Bradley. No body attack at all either but Tim deserves credit for that also. Not sure why he never tried from the right more? A kind of south paw affliction and then w/o that his right hand was a non factor.
He knew he wasn't fighting Manny. and yes his body attack was lacking too. The punch he rattled Bradley with was a right uppercut I'm pretty sure. Bradley seemingly had a solid hand speed advantage but took himself out of the frey but settled a large part of the time. Pick your poison, this one was no whitewash. Bradley lands one solid jarring shot in 12th and opts to walk away with his hands raised like he just conquered the Kraken, nah man.
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Ok hulk try taking jmm dick out of your mouth and tell how the hell you gave him so many rounds early in that fight really dude. I mean Bradley was pretty much pot shotting and jmm missed shit ton of his shots.
I do not even know who you are nor do I ever remember seeing you post a score of a fight or say anything remotely memorable on here.
Please do not be rude to me and fuck off.
Marquez won the fight.
Those saying otherwise are smart Alec's who went against the grain n picked Bradley and are now patting themselves on the back due to a bogus decision.
WHAT DAMAGE DID BRADLEY DO???
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Timothy " The British " Bradley
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You know in boxing you can win on scoring points right out landing and taking control of the pace. I am just kinda been reading your score and your full of shit most of the time and watch the fight again and score it but i doubt i change my mind.
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Nope, Bradley clearly earned that he boxed very well. Made Marquez lead most of the fight and was a lot more effective picking his spots than I thought he could be. Very good performance from him.
Ran away with it in the last half and especially the last 1/4. Almost got a kd in the 12th.
Marquez swept the last 4 rounds. Bradley lost the entire 12th until he lucked out n landed that hook with his eyes closed cus Marquez got stupid.
Cmon Hulk.
I expected better from you.
Bradley LUCKED out with that hook?
Did garcia luck out with khan?
Or did marquez luck out with the shot that dropped manny TWICE?!
Unreal.
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
His left uppercut worked well under the jab with Manny but he missed the same punch tonight with Bradley. No body attack at all either but Tim deserves credit for that also. Not sure why he never tried from the right more? A kind of south paw affliction and then w/o that his right hand was a non factor.
He knew he wasn't fighting Manny. and yes his body attack was lacking too. The punch he rattled Bradley with was a right uppercut I'm pretty sure. Bradley seemingly had a solid hand speed advantage but took himself out of the frey but settled a large part of the time. Pick your poison, this one was no whitewash. Bradley lands one solid jarring shot in 12th and opts to walk away with his hands raised like he just conquered the Kraken, nah man.
I beg to differ. Lets get the fight up again and you can point out all these points Marquez scored. He fought like he was some kind of ko artist and was beaten soundly. To many threads on the same topic so I'm going to stick onto the sticky. I'm stoned and its late.
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
His left uppercut worked well under the jab with Manny but he missed the same punch tonight with Bradley. No body attack at all either but Tim deserves credit for that also. Not sure why he never tried from the right more? A kind of south paw affliction and then w/o that his right hand was a non factor.
He knew he wasn't fighting Manny. and yes his body attack was lacking too. The punch he rattled Bradley with was a right uppercut I'm pretty sure. Bradley seemingly had a solid hand speed advantage but took himself out of the frey but settled a large part of the time. Pick your poison, this one was no whitewash. Bradley lands one solid jarring shot in 12th and opts to walk away with his hands raised like he just conquered the Kraken, nah man.
I beg to differ. Lets get the fight up again and you can point out all these points Marquez scored. He fought like he was some kind of ko artist and was beaten soundly. To many threads on the same topic so I'm going to stick on to the sticky. I'm stoned and its late.
You're stoned so that explains your score lol
It was a close shitty boring fight but I maintain Marquez is the only one who came to fight and the only one who did any damage. He won more rounds on real punches.
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@IamInuit as I mentioned in the other thread you yourself posted you had this 6-4 after ten, very reasonable to score last two for marquez don't you think, thus givin him a draw. Also compubox is shit but they had this a close one as well somethin like 168 to 155 in favor of bradley, sure as hell not what you'd expect in a 10-2 fight as hbo n the ring had it.
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As someone who believes Marquez has 3 wins and a draw over Pac, and came into tonight's fight thinking 'no one can beat Marquez except Mayweather,' I have to say Marquez clearly got out boxed tonight. 115-113 is the closest score I could consider. Bradley (just like Garcia) must now be considered in the P4P. Head butts notwithstanding, that could be an interesting fight w FMM.<br />
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On a side note, if JMM is going to continue, he needs to have someone else in the corner with him DURING the fight. IMO Nacho was completely ineffective. Don't think hes too old; JMM needed fresh eyes to help him execute what he is capable of. Someone to say 'right counter over the jab' and 'focus on the body this round.' If he gets that, I think he can still compete P4P.
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how is it possible that you've been a member on saddo's since 2005 and only have 1 cool click that i just gave you 2 minutes ago?
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Lol... Thx for the click. The cool clicks / reps system has been reset many times over the years. I'm not as active as now, so it doesn't show.
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I would actually love to see a rematch with Bradley and Pac now with out his ankle being fucked the whole fight see how it goes. I think that will be the next fight they plan on doing it makes a lot of sense.
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Looks like a lot of marquez fans in here upset with the decision. Marquez himself says it's another fight he got robbed in as he always does when he loses
I didn't even think it was close and Bradley's body language suggested the same. Walking around with hands down in utter contempt for the man infront of him. I'm right in my prediction of Bradley on points but didn't think he'd win the exchanges aswel
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Bradley 115-113 . Close fight but Bradley finally did enough too win
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I think it was way too close a fight to claim robbery on either side. Bradley fought a great fight, utilized the jab very well and got the better of most of the exchanges IMO.
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I dont even think it was close. Bradley quite comfortably
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I'll do replay in the morning but wasn't one of Marquez better shots landed a right uppercut that rattled Bradley, one of his that actually made hbo replay that is? It was one of his better moments. Changing corners right now for Marquez would be a none factor, Nacho as much as Marquez is why he is able to keep going right now. Bradley looked like a guy balancing a glass of water the last few rounds worried more about spilling it. He fought a much more intelligent fight but fell asleep at the wheel for me late on.
His left uppercut worked well under the jab with Manny but he missed the same punch tonight with Bradley. No body attack at all either but Tim deserves credit for that also. Not sure why he never tried from the right more? A kind of south paw affliction and then w/o that his right hand was a non factor.
He knew he wasn't fighting Manny. and yes his body attack was lacking too. The punch he rattled Bradley with was a right uppercut I'm pretty sure. Bradley seemingly had a solid hand speed advantage but took himself out of the frey but settled a large part of the time. Pick your poison, this one was no whitewash. Bradley lands one solid jarring shot in 12th and opts to walk away with his hands raised like he just conquered the Kraken, nah man.
I beg to differ. Lets get the fight up again and you can point out all these points Marquez scored. He fought like he was some kind of ko artist and was beaten soundly. To many threads on the same topic so I'm going to stick onto the sticky. I'm stoned and its late.
Lucky fooker ha. Sometimes I miss the meany green. Might have to come out of "retirement" soon.
Anyway, I actually sat here and did the standard replay. Made it into the 6th thus far and have rewatched...in slo mo frame by frame. What always amazes me is how it always reveals Lampley and his habit of calling fights like he is reading a comic book outloud..."Biiiggggg right hand....booooom....bang-bang-bang" haha ;D. It was such a difference in style and approach. Marquez literally stayed in the pocket and was actually able to keep up when Bradley got off. Bradley jab was very very active, but it was also very inaccurate and he didn't bring much behind it at all. Just to break Marquez stance and leads. Bradley covered alot of realestate but blowing combinations and settling on matching jabs. I still have Marquez 4-2 here but really round 3 was very difficult. Easily 3-3. Beginning was coin flip and a staring contest.
