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James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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FinitoElDinamita
his fat old ass couldn't even win on Prizefighter he has no business being in the ring with a young up and comer, Toney needs to stop flapping his gums and just retire
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney must be tired of living
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
A part of me (a very sadistic one) hopes Toney gets in the ring with Wilder.
There's gonna be pieces of whale blubber strewn all over the first 10 rows.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
still I think Toney gets in great shape for it if it ever happens and holds his own.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney can't get in great shape for anything, the guy probably has wet brain already! He can lose weight and be in condition, but if he'd like to be able to tie his shoes or chew solid food in a decade or two he needs to avoid anybody decent or retire.
I love watching his fights from years past, he's one of my all time favourites. It's because he's been so skilled defensively that everyone thinks he can still handle himself, they want to compare him to when he was already a shell 5 or 6 years ago. He has taken an incredible amount of punishment in his career, it's time to forget about the guy fighting.
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It's sad, I think Toney is too far gone for Wilder to be interested in.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
"I want my first KO loss!"
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Hulk
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FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style, he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Just can't get used to Toney calling out green guys from the backseat. He wants relevance just for waking up at 3 A.M...he probably talks shit in the bathroom mirror all over again now
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
Some people are born fighters and Toney just loves to fight regardless.. He wanted to stay active by fighting in the tourney while waiting for somebody relevant to step up..
Toney needs a few rounds to get into a groove. That's his style.. is it not?
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
Some people are born fighters and Toney just loves to fight regardless.. He wanted to stay active by fighting in the tourney while waiting for somebody relevant to step up..
Toney needs a few rounds to get into a groove. That's his style.. is it not?
Yes he is a slow fighter these days , so losing to a journeyman helped him how ?
why didn't he just fight a journeyman over 12 rounds ?
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
Some people are born fighters and Toney just loves to fight regardless.. He wanted to stay active by fighting in the tourney while waiting for somebody relevant to step up..
Toney needs a few rounds to get into a groove. That's his style.. is it not?
Yes he is a slow fighter these days , so losing to a journeyman helped him how ?
why didn't he just fight a journeyman over 12 rounds ?
Because the Prizefighter tourney have been getting some headlines and he'd get more shine by fighting in one rather than facing a journeyman in a 12 rounder..
And did you miss the part where he got jobbed? If it wasn't for that, he'd be in a different place right now...
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
Some people are born fighters and Toney just loves to fight regardless.. He wanted to stay active by fighting in the tourney while waiting for somebody relevant to step up..
Toney needs a few rounds to get into a groove. That's his style.. is it not?
Yes he is a slow fighter these days , so losing to a journeyman helped him how ?
why didn't he just fight a journeyman over 12 rounds ?
Because the Prizefighter tourney have been getting some headlines and he'd get more shine by fighting in one rather than facing a journeyman in a 12 rounder..
And did you miss the part where he got jobbed? If it wasn't for that, he'd be in a different place right now...
I watched prizefighter live , and in a free swinging brawl , they don't always go for the more accurate fighter , so it happens all the time in past prizefighters , which is my point ,
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Toney is the old mongoose of this generation. If he gets in shape, he can school somebody like wilder.
He was in shape for Prizefighter, 217 lbs. Still lost. He's an ATG, but he's done. Absolutely finished.
He got robbed in one bout and scored a KO in the other.. and besides, we cant make good assessments off 3rd fights..
Given toneys style,
he's not the type wholl look good in the beginning rounds..
If that is true why did he go into prizefighter with a load of journeymen , with a top prize of £ 35,000?
Toney is a great fighter , but he is finished.
He fought in the tourney because none of the relevant guys want a part of him.. The bitchko sisters have been ducking him for the past 10 years and David Gaye dont even want to be in same room as him..
I think Fury as the heart to face him but we'll see..
So you are saying Toney knew he wouldn't win prizefighter as he is a very slow starter ?
if so why did he enter ?
Some people are born fighters and Toney just loves to fight regardless.. He wanted to stay active by fighting in the tourney while waiting for somebody relevant to step up..
Toney needs a few rounds to get into a groove. That's his style.. is it not?
Yes he is a slow fighter these days , so losing to a journeyman helped him how ?
why didn't he just fight a journeyman over 12 rounds ?
Because the Prizefighter tourney have been getting some headlines and he'd get more shine by fighting in one rather than facing a journeyman in a 12 rounder..
And did you miss the part where he got jobbed? If it wasn't for that, he'd be in a different place right now...
I watched prizefighter live , and in a free swinging brawl , they don't always go for the more accurate fighter , so it happens all the time in past prizefighters , which is my point ,
POint taken... Shady decision aside, you got to admit Toney performed pretty well..
He's earned another shot at a named fighter.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney and his team obviously didnt realise how exhausting tring to keep ahead of someone for just 3 rounds would be. I believe they did try to pace themselves as in the first fight but I dont think Toney trains intense enough to keep such a hectic pace and be ready to do it over again. He landed all the shots against Gavern, all Gavern did is push Toney back and miss.
Lucas Browne just smashed one of Hayes "top" sparring partners but couldnt put a dent in a fatter Toney over 12 and even got wobbled himself a few times and Toney probably would have got the decision if not in Australia.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Fucking lunatics. Wilder would kill Toney. Hopefully not literally.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Fenster
Fucking lunatics. Wilder would kill Toney. Hopefully not literally.
Wilders record flatters to deceive.
His last fight, being aganst someone like a relative novice of 16 fights like Fury (at the time) stopped early, im betting most thought he would anhialate him in the first but he didnt.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
This is comedy Ross, you see whatever you want to no matter the fight. Wilder could be just as overrated as you hope he is, the fact is he's massive and has power, this fight would be sadistic.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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p4pking
This is comedy Ross, you see whatever you want to no matter the fight. Wilder could be just as overrated as you hope he is, the fact is he's massive and has power, this fight would be sadistic.
I see what I want to see?
You clearly dont see what everyone else does;)
Wilder has been kept wrapped up for 30 fights because he's not that great. He is powerfull but doesn't have the experience a man of his amount of fights should have to make the best use of that power. He rushed in, swings wildly and misses and falls over.
His stoppage of Harrison was laughable for a man of that many bouts. It looked like some unlicensed fighter swinging.
The reason he's been held back for so long is because they know full well his chin isn't very good and being in the position he is right now, on the verge of a title shot, I doubt they will take the fight with someone as dangerous as Fury.
If Fury was so shit and not a danger to anyone and Haye could box rings round him and finish him so quickly why is he "retiring" rather than fight someone so easy to beat as Tyson Fury? Its because in reality Fury is huge, strong, puts punches together, can fight inside, has very good stamina, tough and does have power.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Right, because you clearly represent the views of "everyone else" so frequently, you juvenile cunt. I'm not talking about Wilder:rolleyes:, I just said he may well be as overrated as you think he is. James Toney is finished, that's all there is to it. He can't beat anyone and should retire without a KO loss for his own good.
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Toney is finished, he would be like a sitting duck for Wilder.
He is lucky these young guys realize there's no upside to beating an old, used up fighter like Toney.
James, retire man! Please!
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
I'm pretty much alone in my dislike of Toney.... so I for one wouldn't terribly mind seeing him get his wish and step into a ring with Wilder. Hell... I'd probably record the damn thing so I could cheer myself up when I'm down. C'mon Toney..... get a fight signed with that "little punk" (heh-heh-heh).
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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p4pking
Right, because you clearly represent the views of "everyone else" so frequently, you juvenile cunt. I'm not talking about Wilder:rolleyes:, I just said he may well be as overrated as you think he is. James Toney is finished, that's all there is to it. He can't beat anyone and should retire without a KO loss for his own good.
Erm...and you neg repped me for criticising a blatant cheat like Ward and for being negative. Hark at yourself calling people a cunt on the main board. Hypocrite.
Ward is a cheat who attracts fans like a fat girl attracts rational men. Toney on the other hand is a beautiful fighter, who even at 45 refuses to clinch like a baby. Toney clearly won both fights in Prizefighter and looked decent.
I would like to see him fight Wilder actually. Toney would make him wing it in the early rounds and then pile on some embarrassment later on. And at 45 and without hugging or a fear of flying or a fear of weight jumping etc.
Toney is the definition of a warrior. Anywhere, anytime. He means it.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney shouldn't be fighting any more imo, seriously slurring his words these days
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
I've absolutely no doubt that Wilder would windmill that fat little tub of goo into the 3rd row of seats!
That smart ass Toney is so full of shit as well as pork chop!
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Toney is one of my all time favorites, but he's done. He shouldn't be allowed in the ring anymore, as he has proven, diagnosed brain damage. Fighting a young banger like Wilder would be absolute suicide at this point.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8DXiCr3-jE
And this was 6 years ago. Imagine the additional brain trauma he's suffered since then.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
James...really? Is this really what its come to?! Give it a rest for goodness sakes!
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Gandalf
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p4pking
Right, because you clearly represent the views of "everyone else" so frequently, you juvenile cunt. I'm not talking about Wilder:rolleyes:, I just said he may well be as overrated as you think he is. James Toney is finished, that's all there is to it. He can't beat anyone and should retire without a KO loss for his own good.
Erm...and you neg repped me for criticising a blatant cheat like Ward and for being negative. Hark at yourself calling people a cunt on the main board. Hypocrite.
Ward is a cheat who attracts fans like a fat girl attracts rational men. Toney on the other hand is a beautiful fighter, who even at 45 refuses to clinch like a baby. Toney clearly won both fights in Prizefighter and looked decent.
I would like to see him fight Wilder actually. Toney would make him wing it in the early rounds and then pile on some embarrassment later on. And at 45 and without hugging or a fear of flying or a fear of weight jumping etc.
Toney is the definition of a warrior. Anywhere, anytime. He means it.
Sir, Toney is the definition of a punch drunk fighter who does not belong in the ring.
Everyone knows Toney was a great fighter, without fear of any fighter, with enough heart to outlast anyone, but now his electrical system is spotty and his gas tank is close to empty.
At this time, no legitimate up and comer would step into the ring with James.
What would be the point?
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Gandalf
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p4pking
Right, because you clearly represent the views of "everyone else" so frequently, you juvenile cunt. I'm not talking about Wilder:rolleyes:, I just said he may well be as overrated as you think he is. James Toney is finished, that's all there is to it. He can't beat anyone and should retire without a KO loss for his own good.
Erm...and you neg repped me for criticising a blatant cheat like Ward and for being negative. Hark at yourself calling people a cunt on the main board. Hypocrite.
Ward is a cheat who attracts fans like a fat girl attracts rational men. Toney on the other hand is a beautiful fighter, who even at 45 refuses to clinch like a baby. Toney clearly won both fights in Prizefighter and looked decent.
I would like to see him fight Wilder actually. Toney would make him wing it in the early rounds and then pile on some embarrassment later on. And at 45 and without hugging or a fear of flying or a fear of weight jumping etc.
Toney is the definition of a warrior. Anywhere, anytime. He means it.
I "harked" at you because you were nancying up a fight thread, it wasn't a bad affair and people were just trying enjoy the action. I don't know how my calling a cunt a cunt in another thread makes me a hypocrite for that. Now I agree that Toney has/had a more appealing style than Ward, but there are levels to take into account as well. I enjoy watching almost any elite boxer at work, but Toney hasn't been that for years, he's a health risk now and needs to retire for his own sake as he isn't relevant.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
This isn't Eastside boxing, so stop calling people a cunt on the main board. You are getting as bad as Lyle, who gets personal all over the main boards when he's forgotten where he is with the whiskey sloshing all over the keyboard.
I was critical of Ward because he is horrible. Now you enjoying it doesn't negate me not enjoying it. And likewise, people enjoying even the James Toney of today doesn't make them a cunt. I am a sensitive, dainty, darling and I won't be called anything else.
Supporting an aging warrior is less absurd than a lot of things in life, but he is real and here today, and thus logic exists.
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Re: James Toney wants Wilder: " I want a piece of that little punk "
Don't take this out on Lyle just because he can handle his drink:D I've never been on Eastside boxing, and I generally use curse words tongue in cheek on this board. I'm hardly the worst offender there and I'm in no way getting personal, nor do I often do that over any issue around here, unlike yourself. I understand having favourites and being biased towards certain styles, but Toney can no longer operate at a reasonable level and I don't find that terribly interesting, plus I'd rather not see him knocked out to end his run.
