Khan's speed and accuracy...

... has anyone even considered Khan has a chance based on that?

Khan's losses came as a result of him getting bombed out of this atmosphere, but in the fight with Breidis Prescott we knew he was going to win on points if it went the distance.

The fight against Danny Garcia, he was winning it easily until he got bombed out and just could not recover.

Mayweather is by no means a bomber at this stage of his career. Mayweather can stun you, he can sure push you back and land shots, but he is not a bomber, one shot knock out kinda fighter.

I think it all depends on Khan and whether or not he wants this fight-wants it in terms of knowing and understanding that he can take a Mayweather punch and survive to land a few more shots of his own.

Khan has a chance. The chance is his accuracy. He is just as good as anyone in the division in terms of punch accuracy. His power is better than Mayweather's. His speed is slightly better than Mayweather's. Where Khan falls off is his chin and after the chin, his stamina and will to win erodes and he loses rounds and fights as a result.

Make no mistake: Khan has a chance. If Khan sticks to what Khan does best, Khan can win this fight.

If I were in the Khan camp, there are three things I would be working on: Speed, Accuracy AND mental fortitude on how to stay in the pocket when Mayweather stuns you with a shot you won't see coming. And, as we know Money Mayweather, he will tag you with shots you almost certainly won't see coming...

power is nothing when you can't hit your opponent.

glass jaws get smashed by quick counterpunchers.

khan has no chance.

You brought up some valid points. Khans speed and accuracy are superb. When he is on the money he is fun to watch. That being said his impressive attributes won't translate into a win against Floyd. As far as accuracy go's Floyd is at the top of the heap. I can't say what will beat Floyd but I doubt it would be Khan.

The problem is not in Mayweather's pure punching power, but in the speed, quality and accuracy of his punches.

His speed and accuracy are top notch but when you dont have the chin/punch resistance to compliment those qualities, shit becomes less relevant..

Its kind of like Jhonny Gonzalez for instance.. he has many weapons in his arsenal and his offensive ability is superb but he's been let down numerous times because he didnt have the resistance to take as much as he dished out...

Guys like gonzalez and khan are both blessed and cursed because their exceptional offensive game allows them to stay ahead in the race but soon as they get hit with something big, the lead they built comes to a halt..

Khan, jhonny gonzalez, and terry norris have these traits..

Khan does not have a chance!
You can get excited, fantasize up a storm, lick your chops, and Khan will still lose. Khan is not on the same level.

Speed doesn't matter much hen guys know how to fight- floyd won't care much about speed.
Why do you think Khan is an accurate puncher? Why do you say that?

Khan is alright but honestly I think Broner would punch out Khan, let alone Mayweather!

Khan has loads of raw speed, but he's not really an accurate puncher at all, at least in the context of a competitive fight he isn't. If anything given how naturally talented he is his accuracy is quite poor, along with his balance. If you listen to some people he's this masterful boxer whose only downfall is his chin, as if dropping a decision to Lamont Peterson doesn't refute that slightly:p. He's lost his fights because he gets caught with big punches he doesn't see repeatedly and then keeps fighting the same way, great boxers don't tend to do that.

Now granted his chin is poor and seems to have gotten even worse; but that aside, he fights so tense, reaches with his jab, backs straight up with his hands down, panics as soon as he's felt a punch and tries to brawl his way out of it every time. There are so many things he does which would get him killed against Mayweather it's frankly hilarious that people consider him the biggest threat because he's fast.

Khan is world class when on the attack but his defence is terrible. Khan might look like he's in the fight for 4 or 5 rounds because he'll likely be beating Floyd on activity early on but then Floyd will catch him and stop him. Khan always starts fast and fades later. The Maidana & Peterson fights in particular are evidence of this. Floyd generally lets fighters like this have a couple of rounds before he starts picking them off. No way does Khan win this fight.

I'd say the most accurate thing I've seen Khan do was throw a left and right hook to the body against Maidana. The majority of the time for me, Khan just "throws" quick combinations, without the ability to set punches up. He throws those quick combinations whether there is an opening for the punch to land or not. Thats why for me Khan hits a hell of a lot of Glove. He's not smart enough to be accurate like mayweather. Mayweather sets everything up like a Magician, and is almost certain each punch is going to land well. On fight night, we'll see how accurate Khan is. Thats if they actually fight. I'll bet the there is no contest what so ever regarding punch accuracy when the stats roll out round by round.

Khan has never been outboxed over 12 rounds..ok ok there was peterson but that was in his hometown, fixed etc

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Neither had countless Mayweather opponents.

True, but Floyd has never made it past the 2nd round against anyone named Amir as a pro. He's also never scored a KO against a Pakistani, or looked impressive against anyone that lost to Breidis Prescott beforehand. Add Khans speed to the mix and it might all be to much to soon, I think Floyd needs a few more fights before he's ready.

Im positive Khan will cause Floyd loads of problems until Floyd hits him.

Khan has a tendency to punch wide and leave his chin wide open. He has never avenged any of his losses and barely got by Julio Diaz who put him on his ass. If he took the fight with Alexander and won then maybe it would have been a little more justifiable.

Khans got a better chance than anyone at 147 I think he would even do better than pacman cause pacmans too aggressive and will play right into floyds hands. If khan vs floyd happens unless floyd stops khan I think it will be very competitive.

khan doesnt have much chance i dont think, as seems to be the general opinion

i think what we should be looking at is his chances going into a fight in comparision with mayweathers other opponents

i think if you take mayweathers last 8 oponents

alverez, guerrero, cotto, ortiz, mosley, marquez, hatton, de la hoya

i reckon if you would have asked me before the fights who had a better chance than khan of winning id of said alverez, hatton and de la hoya

i think khan has a better chance than all of guerrero, cotto, ortiz, mosley and marquez had

so im happy with the fight

p.s. yes i did consult boxrec to compile this post which is sad i know but its friday and i cant be bummed doing any work

based on his speed and accuracy by the way

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Khan has a tendency to punch wide and leave his chin wide open. He has never avenged any of his losses and barely got by Julio Diaz who put him on his ass. If he took the fight with Alexander and won then maybe it would have been a little more justifiable.

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This sums it up^^

No losses have ever been avenged.
It sounds as though khan will give floyd problems and even im alittle worried...until you see khans last fight. Diaz was 8 years out of prime and a lightweight.

If alexander wins he will get the shot on may the 3rd.

Bradley and garcia deserve it but thats another topic.

Khan has never been out-boxed in any of his fights. The Peterson fight was a rip off for him. He was totally ripped off.

With that being said, we all know Floyd will be Floyd- picking you off, catching you off balance, and moving out of the way.

But, Khan's speed and accuracy down the pike for the first few rounds will be there. Not sure if Khan's power is enough to stun Mayweather into stopping, but I have a feeling that if Khan can sustain his work-rate through the entire fight he can win rounds- vital rounds that hardly anyone wins against Mayweather.

The way it looks to me, Mayweather has to win this one by KO- or score two or three knockdowns in this fight.

Floyd is a little older now. He doesn't fight as much in the ring as he used to. In fact, I can count Floyd's punches per round on one hand. With diminishing power, it's really an interesting fight.

Of course, Khan is GOBSMACKED to be in the ring with Mayweather. Unlike Guerrero, who came in with oodles of confidence and heart but just did not have the tools to do the job.

Khan better get into fight mode and try to win this fight.

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Khan has never been out-boxed in any of his fights. The Peterson fight was a rip off for him. He was totally ripped off.

With that being said, we all know Floyd will be Floyd- picking you off, catching you off balance, and moving out of the way.

But, Khan's speed and accuracy down the pike for the first few rounds will be there. Not sure if Khan's power is enough to stun Mayweather into stopping, but I have a feeling that if Khan can sustain his work-rate through the entire fight he can win rounds- vital rounds that hardly anyone wins against Mayweather.

The way it looks to me, Mayweather has to win this one by KO- or score two or three knockdowns in this fight.

Floyd is a little older now. He doesn't fight as much in the ring as he used to. In fact, I can count Floyd's punches per round on one hand. With diminishing power, it's really an interesting fight.

Of course, Khan is GOBSMACKED to be in the ring with Mayweather. Unlike Guerrero, who came in with oodles of confidence and heart but just did not have the tools to do the job.

Khan better get into fight mode and try to win this fight.

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Sir, what do you call being knocked down and finally having the referee come to your rescue, if it's not being out boxed.
Slipping punches, staying in position, using the ring, concentration, and I did mention avoiding punches are all part of boxing--where I come from. Oh yeah, let's not forget listening to the referee's warnings, it's something you have to do in boxing.
Khan's problem is loss of concentration, he will be fighting a great fight, doing everything right and suddenly he'll leave his chin hanging or slow down and allow himself to be outworked.
Losing concentration is bad in boxing, leaving you chin open is bad in boxing, ignoring the referee is bad in boxing, so in my opinion, Khan has been out-boxed.

Watch Khan's last fight and watch Floyd's last fight back to back and try and give me one good reason why Khan even belongs in the same zip code as Floyd, never mind the same ring.

Floyd will take three rounds max to time Khan and then batter him with right hand counters every time Khan attacks. This fight will show Khan has exactly one dimension and Mayweather is playing eleven dimensional chess.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Khan completely out boxes Mayweather and wins a huge UD but gets robbed. I don't think Mayweather will hit Khan as easily as everyone thinks and when he does land it won't hurt Khan. Khan will move in and out land one 2 combos. He won't be there for Mayweather to hit and Mayweather will have to go looking for Khan. It won't suit him.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Khan completely out boxes Mayweather and wins a huge UD but gets robbed. I don't think Mayweather will hit Khan as easily as everyone thinks and when he does land it won't hurt Khan. Khan will move in and out land one 2 combos. He won't be there for Mayweather to hit and Mayweather will have to go looking for Khan. It won't suit him.

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The thing about counterpunching is that it can be so frustrating.

Robert guerrero would beat khan regardless of speed as he would take all khans punches.

The quick counters, defense and accuracy put eddie off when he fought floyd and its quite easy to see when floyds opponents go into survival mode.

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Watch Khan's last fight and watch Floyd's last fight back to back and try and give me one good reason why Khan even belongs in the same zip code as Floyd, never mind the same ring.

Floyd will take three rounds max to time Khan and then batter him with right hand counters every time Khan attacks. This fight will show Khan has exactly one dimension and Mayweather is playing eleven dimensional chess.

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You are exactly correct. Floyd usually has everything figured out by the third round, if not before.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Khan completely out boxes Mayweather and wins a huge UD but gets robbed. I don't think Mayweather will hit Khan as easily as everyone thinks and when he does land it won't hurt Khan. Khan will move in and out land one 2 combos. He won't be there for Mayweather to hit and Mayweather will have to go looking for Khan. It won't suit him.

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Well atleast you have a sense of humour about yourself mate... Have another pill while your at it!

I can't believe we're still talking about this "Khan speed will give Floyd trouble" myth! And Floyd's lack of power. I ask one thing? Is Khan tougher than Ricky Hatton in his prime? Floyd had enough power to knock him out. Not only does Khan have absolutely no chance, he shouldn't be anywhere near having the opportunity. Absolute Joke!!!

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Khan completely out boxes Mayweather and wins a huge UD but gets robbed. I don't think Mayweather will hit Khan as easily as everyone thinks and when he does land it won't hurt Khan. Khan will move in and out land one 2 combos. He won't be there for Mayweather to hit and Mayweather will have to go looking for Khan. It won't suit him.

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Well atleast you have a sense of humour about yourself mate... Have another pill while your at it!

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I think hes had too many pills max.
Lol!

Yea I get it, everyone thinks Khan is shit. He still has great skills. Some moron asked is Khan tougher then Hatton? What has that got to do with it? Because Floyd KOd Hatton it means hell KO Khan? OMG your a genius boxing really is that simple.

My point is Khan has a style Floyd has not fought before. I believe he will struggle against speed and movement, similar to how Broner struggled against Mallignaggi. The difference is Khan has some pop in his punches and Mayweather wont just walk through them to land. Hell have to come forward and counter. Mayweather is big fav but I give Khan a chance.

Khan will make it an entertaining fight as long as it lasts, but making him a favorite is too way out there IMO. Floyd adapts to whatever style is thrown his way. Don't forget how he beat Zab Judah at a time when Judah was still lightning quick and highly regarded. Someone mentioned Khan's lack of defense and they were right. He's prone to forget his defense, which is why he's been caught cold and KO'ed. Not saying Floyd will knock him out.... but it's either that, or a clear UD in Floyd's favor.

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Yea I get it, everyone thinks Khan is shit. He still has great skills. Some moron asked is Khan tougher then Hatton? What has that got to do with it? Because Floyd KOd Hatton it means hell KO Khan? OMG your a genius boxing really is that simple.

My point is Khan has a style Floyd has not fought before. I believe he will struggle against speed and movement, similar to how Broner struggled against Mallignaggi. The difference is Khan has some pop in his punches and Mayweather wont just walk through them to land. Hell have to come forward and counter. Mayweather is big fav but I give Khan a chance.

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1.yeah, everyone thinks Khan is Shit. As for his great skills, why couldn't he come up with a more skilful solution against Peterson for 12 rounds than push him back.
2. My point was about Mayweather having the power to knock out Hatton. It means if he catches up with Khan in 12 rounds (which I'm sure he's good enough to do) the same could happen . After all, Khan has never boxed genuine Welterweights. It's not genius, just good old logic.
3. In my eyes , a MORON is someone who justifies his case against Mayweather, by using Broner as an example!!! What the f**k has anything that Broner (a "potentially"elite fighter) has done got to do with Mayweather (like him or not, one of the greatest fighters that ever lived)??? Are you out of the mind?
4. "Pop in his punches!" Get real. Mayweather has felt the "pop" and "power" of genuine Light Middleweights and never even been in trouble.
5. I think a MORON is someone who jumps on a bandwagon based on bullsh1t and nothing that has ever actually happened and tries to make a case that that's how to beat Mayweather. Who's being the simplistic boxing genius now , MORON!xxx

Additionally Carnera you might like to add in for the simpletons benefit that although Broner and Mayweather are mates, Broner does not even fight like Mayweather really closely. He is an offensive fighter not a defensive mater like Floyd, although that may change somewhat if Adrien joins the Money team soon.

I think it's a more than reasonable assumption that Floyd's power will be more than enough to score the stoppage over Khan.

Mayweather KO9 Khan... This will be another text book performance. Amir's speed will count for nothing!

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Yea I get it, everyone thinks Khan is shit. He still has great skills. Some moron asked is Khan tougher then Hatton? What has that got to do with it? Because Floyd KOd Hatton it means hell KO Khan? OMG your a genius boxing really is that simple.

My point is Khan has a style Floyd has not fought before. I believe he will struggle against speed and movement, similar to how Broner struggled against Mallignaggi. The difference is Khan has some pop in his punches and Mayweather wont just walk through them to land. Hell have to come forward and counter. Mayweather is big fav but I give Khan a chance.

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1.yeah, everyone thinks Khan is Shit. As for his great skills, why couldn't he come up with a more skilful solution against Peterson for 12 rounds than push him back. - I felt Khan was obbed in that fight
2. My point was about Mayweather having the power to knock out Hatton. It means if he catches up with Khan in 12 rounds (which I'm sure he's good enough to do) the same could happen . After all, Khan has never boxed genuine Welterweights. It's not genius, just good old logic. - no its retarded logic, Mayweather didnt catch up with Hatton, he just hit him over and over and over again until Hatton gave way. Khan aint gonna fight that way
3. In my eyes , a MORON is someone who justifies his case against Mayweather, by using Broner as an example!!! What the f**k has anything that Broner (a "potentially"elite fighter) has done got to do with Mayweather (like him or not, one of the greatest fighters that ever lived)??? Are you out of the mind? - it hasnt I was saying Khan could cause Mayweather trouble in a similar way Malig caused Broner trouble, by throwing fast 2 and 3 punch combos and then using his feet to get away from Floyd, like how he was beating Garcia before he got cocky and stayed inside too long. He wont get cocky against Mayweather
4. "Pop in his punches!" Get real. Mayweather has felt the "pop" and "power" of genuine Light Middleweights and never even been in trouble. - yes but not a fighter with the speed and skill to land punches like Khan. Khan hurt Maidana, Garcia, Peterson all fighters who can take shots. Mayweather will have to respect this (Khan of course will respect Mayweathers power too)
5. I think a MORON is someone who jumps on a bandwagon based on bullsh1t and nothing that has ever actually happened and tries to make a case that that's how to beat Mayweather. Who's being the simplistic boxing genius now , MORON!xxx - jumped on a bandwagon??? where is this bandwagon? I think Im the only person giving Khan a chance. Now fuck off and go watch all of Khans fights and tell me why he is so shit that he will not cause Mayweather some problems

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Yea I get it, everyone thinks Khan is shit. He still has great skills. Some moron asked is Khan tougher then Hatton? What has that got to do with it? Because Floyd KOd Hatton it means hell KO Khan? OMG your a genius boxing really is that simple.

My point is Khan has a style Floyd has not fought before. I believe he will struggle against speed and movement, similar to how Broner struggled against Mallignaggi. The difference is Khan has some pop in his punches and Mayweather wont just walk through them to land. Hell have to come forward and counter. Mayweather is big fav but I give Khan a chance.

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1.yeah, everyone thinks Khan is Shit. As for his great skills, why couldn't he come up with a more skilful solution against Peterson for 12 rounds than push him back. - I felt Khan was obbed in that fight
my point about Peterson is that even if he won the fight, it was probably by a round , either way it was very close and the talk before the fight was that Peterson wasn't in his league , so it must rank as a poor performance.
2. My point was about Mayweather having the power to knock out Hatton. It means if he catches up with Khan in 12 rounds (which I'm sure he's good enough to do) the same could happen . After all, Khan has never boxed genuine Welterweights. It's not genius, just good old logic. - no its retarded logic, Mayweather didnt catch up with Hatton, he just hit him over and over and over again until Hatton gave way. Khan aint gonna fight that way
Mayweather will take the piss out of Khan big time, end of.

3. In my eyes , a MORON is someone who justifies his case against Mayweather, by using Broner as an example!!! What the f**k has anything that Broner (a "potentially"elite fighter) has done got to do with Mayweather (like him or not, one of the greatest fighters that ever lived)??? Are you out of the mind? - it hasnt I was saying Khan could cause Mayweather trouble in a similar way Malig caused Broner trouble, by throwing fast 2 and 3 punch combos and then using his feet to get away from Floyd, like how he was beating Garcia before he got cocky and stayed inside too long. He wont get cocky against Mayweather
talk about retarded logic!!!! Different fights, different fighters, different levels. Pathetic !
4. "Pop in his punches!" Get real. Mayweather has felt the "pop" and "power" of genuine Light Middleweights and never even been in trouble. - yes but not a fighter with the speed and skill to land punches like Khan. Khan hurt Maidana, Garcia, Peterson all fighters who can take shots. Mayweather will have to respect this (Khan of course will respect Mayweathers power too)
Khan has never fought at this weight. He couldn't bang out Peterson, he took ages to catch up with blown up career lightweights in his last 2 fights and his power hasn't really transferred from when Khan was a lightweight!!!
5. I think a MORON is someone who jumps on a bandwagon based on bullsh1t and nothing that has ever actually happened and tries to make a case that that's how to beat Mayweather. Who's being the simplistic boxing genius now , MORON!xxx - jumped on a bandwagon??? where is this bandwagon? I think Im the only person giving Khan a chance. Now fuck off and go watch all of Khans fights and tell me why he is so shit that he will not cause Mayweather some problems

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The bandwagon, my pedigree chum is the "his speed and style can cause Mayweather problems" utter bullshit. If you're a big enough mug to want to see Khan take the piss out of boxing by talking himself into a fight he don't deserve and when he's lost retire cos he'll have had a monster pay day for being made to look a twat, that's up to you.
But I believe you need to earn the fight against PBF it's a life changing amount of money. Why should he get that chance above others who've done it in the ring the past couple of years.
As for looking at his record, I'm gonna do another post going through his record fight by fight and showing him what a complete waste of time he is and what a fool you are for believing it!!!

Well done Primo

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Thank you;D

I didn't make it very clear, but I have replied with answers in the above post if you look carefully. And I will dissect Khan's career later.

Lads look Primo and Silkeyjoe are fighting! :)

Its a lost cause for me anyway because I think Mayweather will win so when he wins and Khan has put up a good fight Primo will feel like hes correct. I just dont want to see Mayweather fight another one dimensional fighter who wont win a second of any round. Danny Garciam Matthysse, Cotto are fighters I cant see giving Mayweather any issues at all and believe speed and skill is what will cause Mayweather trouble. There is a reason he doesnt fight fast fighters with good boxing techniques

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Its a lost cause for me anyway because I think Mayweather will win so when he wins and Khan has put up a good fight Primo will feel like hes correct. I just dont want to see Mayweather fight another one dimensional fighter who wont win a second of any round. Danny Garciam Matthysse, Cotto are fighters I cant see giving Mayweather any issues at all and believe speed and skill is what will cause Mayweather trouble. There is a reason he doesnt fight fast fighters with good boxing techniques

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We'll that saves me putting Khan's record on here fight by fight because I get what you're saying about fast fighters with good technique troubling PBF, but I just don't see that being Khan. If you said Pacquiao , I'd agree especially as we're not saying they beat Mayweather, just give him more to think about. The fact is that that type of fighter probably could trouble PBF, especially as he's 36 now, but there isn't anyone out there that is actually good enough. That's why I think with the limited fights PBF Has left, and the life changing money that can be made from the fight,they should be against people who've earned it. Why should someone jump the queue just because he's English and that offers a different commercial proposition . I think people like Bradley, Pac, Garcia , Lara maybe have earnt it and then if Broner is still beating everyone in 2 years time ( which I don't think will be the case) for a finale Floyd can whoop his ass!!!