All Hail, The King! shocking pics showing his True Invincibility

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A force of nature, that Rocky

Max power would say they were fat.

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Max power would say they were fat.

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You will never catch me saying Rocky Marciano was fat! In fact you will never catch me commenting on any boxers physique where I could not provide a picture to back it up.

Rocky never was out of shape entire career, he was maniacal in his training, I would not deny it. I would only dispute the "invincibility" portion of the thread title.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

You will never catch me saying Rocky Marciano was fat! In fact you will never catch me commenting on any boxers physique where I could not provide a picture to back it up.

Rocky never was out of shape entire career, he was maniacal in his training, I would not deny it. I would only dispute the "invincibility" portion of the thread title.

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Shaddup, you @$$-licker...

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Shaddup, you @$$-licker...

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This thread is titled "All hail the king!" And your calling me an ass licker!?

Bit of a pot and kettle story there :rolleyes:

Who is the guy with the really short arms ;)

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Who is the guy with the really short arms ;)

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"Do you not know, short arms were a product of the olden day fighters which is why they are not as good as the modern day fighters who have longer arm fighters. Statistics show that Wlad uses his arms to wrap around his opponents far more than the older fighters and therefore today's fighters are a lot better".

Quote Max :rolleyes:

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"Do you not know, short arms were a product of the olden day fighters which is why they are not as good as the modern day fighters who have longer arm fighters. Statistics show that Wlad uses his arms to wrap around his opponents far more than the older fighters and therefore today's fighters are a lot better".

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Great! That makes just about everyone now a comedian LOL :)

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"Do you not know, short arms were a product of the olden day fighters which is why they are not as good as the modern day fighters who have longer arm fighters. Statistics show that Wlad uses his arms to wrap around his opponents far more than the older fighters and therefore today's fighters are a lot better".

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Great! That makes just about everyone now a comedian LOL :)

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However you are the biggest joker on this forum. :)

Nah, I take common sense pretty seriously. ;)

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Nah, I take common sense pretty seriously. ;)

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Well you need to take it more seriously because you still do not make sense with the nonsense you write.

You support bums... I support winners! :D

@Master

How would you see a fight between prime Marciano and various versions of Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali going? If you would like to humour me just for a laugh!?

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the tough Marciano could find and knock the skinny gutted Clay out. If Henry's hammer could find him, imagine what Rocky might produce.

However the Muhammad Ali that got the rightful champ of the 70's in a huge upset (Foreman) circa 1974 would have punched the shit out of your precious Marciano, and I don't even rate HIM that highly.

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Kneeguel Cotto the T-Rex

One shot from the Rock, just one shot............ imagine Wladimir getting a nice spleen shot from the crouching Brockton Block Buster. If you think that bitch was crawlin' 'cross the floor after Brewster barely hit him,.....just imagine if Marciano wallopped 'em.

Brewster has a good record and a KOratio similar to Mike Tyson against even heavier opponents than what Mike had he weighs 230lbs.

Brewster is like Marcianio fed steroids for a few years.

There is no comparison between Brewster and MArciano. Brewster would knock MArciano out with 1st connected power punch and could take any punch Rocky could throw at him as if it were nothing.

Wladimir beat the hell out of Brewster as bad as any beating I've seen in BOTH fights, the only reason he lost 1 of them was because he succumbed to a very serious medical condition in the end which has been documented and verified. The result stands when shit like that occurs but everybody knew Brewster's victory was bogus and that's why big money never appeared for Brewster. Lamon had an excellent chin whoch allowed him to survive.

Wladimir's chin is slightly underrated but I agree it is not the best chin BUT that is rated against superheavyweight opponents. Against a 185lb guy like Rocky, Wlad's chin (and body) is indestructible. Wlad could take any punch Marciano could throw at him unguarded and shake it off as if it were nothing and knock Rocky out with the first connected JAB, let alone power punch!

Brewster KO1 Marciano
Klitschko KO1 Marciano

FACT!

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Brewster has a good record and a KOratio similar to Mike Tyson against even heavier opponents than what Mike had he weighs 230lbs.

Brewster is like Marcianio fed steroids for a few years.

There is no comparison between Brewster and MArciano. Brewster would knock MArciano out with 1st connected power punch and could take any punch Rocky could throw at him as if it were nothing.

Wladimir beat the hell out of Brewster as bad as any beating I've seen in BOTH fights, the only reason he lost 1 of them was because he succumbed to a very serious medical condition in the end which has been documented and verified. The result stands when shit like that occurs but everybody knew Brewster's victory was bogus and that's why big money never appeared for Brewster. Lamon had an excellent chin whoch allowed him to survive.

Wladimir's chin is slightly underrated but I agree it is not the best chin BUT that is rated against superheavyweight opponents. Against a 185lb guy like Rocky, Wlad's chin (and body) is indestructible. Wlad could take any punch Marciano could throw at him unguarded and shake it off as if it were nothing and knock Rocky out with the first connected JAB, let alone power punch!

Brewster KO1 Marciano
Klitschko KO1 Marciano

FACT!

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P4P / Steroid 4 Steroid -- Marciano destroys Brewster and Klitschko.

You still live at home @Max Power ? Your mom do your laundry? Wake you up in the morning?

The answer is NO Rocco, you are not moving in ;) lol

As for Marciano... He doesn't have the frame to compete with a modern HW no matter how much steroids you give him. After a point he'd be a muscle bound midget, he'd be too slow and stiff to hit anything and his power would drop of considerably the heavier he got with respect to his new class of opponents.

Rocky's skills, heart and will were no better than Brewster had imo.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Brewster has a good record and a KOratio similar to Mike Tyson against even heavier opponents than what Mike had he weighs 230lbs.

Brewster is like Marcianio fed steroids for a few years.

There is no comparison between Brewster and MArciano. Brewster would knock MArciano out with 1st connected power punch and could take any punch Rocky could throw at him as if it were nothing.

Wladimir beat the hell out of Brewster as bad as any beating I've seen in BOTH fights, the only reason he lost 1 of them was because he succumbed to a very serious medical condition in the end which has been documented and verified. The result stands when shit like that occurs but everybody knew Brewster's victory was bogus and that's why big money never appeared for Brewster. Lamon had an excellent chin whoch allowed him to survive.

Wladimir's chin is slightly underrated but I agree it is not the best chin BUT that is rated against superheavyweight opponents. Against a 185lb guy like Rocky, Wlad's chin (and body) is indestructible. Wlad could take any punch Marciano could throw at him unguarded and shake it off as if it were nothing and knock Rocky out with the first connected JAB, let alone power punch!

Brewster KO1 Marciano
Klitschko KO1 Marciano

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oh yes of course..........years we've heard the destructive effects of moonshine.

The Klits are very large HW's, good at what they do they win in boring unexciting fashion,
to be honest they have killed the division, I will be glad when they have long gone.

When you watch Rocky, you see a fighter not a pure boxer excitement that's what you get,!
yes the Klits will go down in history, but will the history say how poor the division was people
have there own take on this, I no what I think.!!!!;)

The history books will record both versions. It will record the thoughts of roughly half the boxing world that the Klitschko's were boring champions in a weak era.

And it will record the statistical truth as well.

Klitschko's fought big, elite HW's.

Marciano fought undersized bums.

And that's always gonna be there.

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Nice pics... He looks like he would have a good fight with Canelo Alvarez ;)

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You support bums... I support winners! :D

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Apart from K2 there are no current heavyweight winners they are all bums

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Brewster has a good record and a KOratio similar to Mike Tyson against even heavier opponents than what Mike had he weighs 230lbs.

Brewster is like Marcianio fed steroids for a few years.

There is no comparison between Brewster and MArciano. Brewster would knock MArciano out with 1st connected power punch and could take any punch Rocky could throw at him as if it were nothing.

Wladimir beat the hell out of Brewster as bad as any beating I've seen in BOTH fights, the only reason he lost 1 of them was because he succumbed to a very serious medical condition in the end which has been documented and verified. The result stands when shit like that occurs but everybody knew Brewster's victory was bogus and that's why big money never appeared for Brewster. Lamon had an excellent chin whoch allowed him to survive.

Wladimir's chin is slightly underrated but I agree it is not the best chin BUT that is rated against superheavyweight opponents. Against a 185lb guy like Rocky, Wlad's chin (and body) is indestructible. Wlad could take any punch Marciano could throw at him unguarded and shake it off as if it were nothing and knock Rocky out with the first connected JAB, let alone power punch!

Brewster KO1 Marciano
Klitschko KO1 Marciano

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C'mon Max, Wlad KOs no one in 1

Wlad's opponents are not bums. A quick look at their records reveals they are high quality boxers. If you think they look bad against K2... Look at their non K2 fights. Suddenly they all look great!

Wlad would not be ABLE to fight bums today with the ever dissecting media. The worst opponent he fought in recent times was Mormeck and was badly ridiculed. And yet Mormeck was a champion boxer with a top record. His problem was he was undersized... At 215lbs! A big HW of Ali's era.

As for not KOing anybody in 1 round, true. Against HIS opponents. I don't think Wlad would bang out too many 70's opponents in 1 round, that would be silly, but a 185lb Marciano it is difficult to see Wlad NOT knocking Rocky out in 1 round, or Lamon for that matter. Hell Lamon knocked out Golota in 1 round didn't he!

P4P Marciano destroys all current heavyweights.

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Wlad's opponents are not bums. A quick look at their records reveals they are high quality boxers. If you think they look bad against K2... Look at their non K2 fights. Suddenly they all look great!

Wlad would not be ABLE to fight bums today with the ever dissecting media. The worst opponent he fought in recent times was Mormeck and was badly ridiculed. And yet Mormeck was a champion boxer with a top record. His problem was he was undersized... At 215lbs! A big HW of Ali's era.

As for not KOing anybody in 1 round, true. Against HIS opponents. I don't think Wlad would bang out too many 70's opponents in 1 round, that would be silly, but a 185lb Marciano it is difficult to see Wlad NOT knocking Rocky out in 1 round, or Lamon for that matter. Hell Lamon knocked out Golota in 1 round didn't he!

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What? Like Arreola against Adamek and Stiverne? Like Fury against Cunningham and Pajkic? Like Adamek against Cunningham and Chambers? Like Haye against Valuev? Like Pulev against Thompson? Like Helenius against Chisora? When do these heavyweights look good? When they are in with complete bums. They wouldn't have a chance against all time greats like Klits, Lewis, Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc.

Also have Huck almost beating Povetkin so have to think Marciano would do better then Huck. I've never said the old timers beat the Klits, also never said vice versa, but they do beat the rest of heavyweight boxers that are around now

I don't agree with @Max Power wholesale, but gotta admit that Marciano would be destroyed by Klitschko. Not because Marciano wasn't good, but simply that he would be too small. P4P he's great, but with his size, he can't even hit Wlad in the chin. Wlad would lean on him and flatten him by accident in the process. See what happned to Mormeck? Povetkin? It would be like that, but worse. Worse I say!
Even prime Mike Tyson would have troubles with getting held, leaned on, and tied up because of his small stature.

So in summary, Marciano = great tough fighter, but - just - too - small.

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What? Like Arreola against Adamek and Stiverne? Like Fury against Cunningham and Pajkic? Like Adamek against Cunningham and Chambers? Like Haye against Valuev? Like Pulev against Thompson? Like Helenius against Chisora? When do these heavyweights look good? When they are in with complete bums. They wouldn't have a chance against all time greats like Klits, Lewis, Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc.

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When any fighter, modern or old is in with someone at his own level, the result is a competitive fight. As soon as Tyson stopped fighting bums he had close competitive fights and didn't look so good. When Lennox Lewis came in not in form, he didn't look so good. Lewis struggled against Mercer and Bruno!

Whenever Foreman fought a decent opponent he lost everytime except once by luck

Ali struggled and got bashed from pillar to post in nearly ALL of his fights against opponents who couldn't hold a candle to any of Wlad's.

FACT!

Wlad's opponents are on the whole better than anything in the 70's.

I concede though that on the whole I think the Lennox Lewis era had better opponents than today.

size does not equal level.

But size is a factor that must be taken into account when we're talking about someone like wladimir who is so effective in making use of that. One must take into consideration that, all else being equal, the larger fighter is going to have the advantage.

Weight does not equate to level that is true, but when we are regarding top level boxing, the skills may differ but they are all world ranked so size plays a major factor. And statistically it turns out that weight differences play the most important part historically in who the winner is, the greater the weight difference being the greater the chances of the heftier guy winning. Weight can sometimes trump skills. Of course this is not always the case (duh) otherwise there'd be no point in boxing. And it's a no-brainer really because that is the reason why there are no "speed-divisions" or "height-divisions" or "footwork-divisions" but there are "weight-divisions".

"Quality of opposition" in my opinion is determined by assessing the opponents record with respect not just to the weights of their opponents, but their records as well.

That is why I not only delete CW's off the records of old timers to make a fair comparison, I delete BUMS as well. (I define CW as being sub200lbs and BUM as being a guy who's lost a quarter or more of his fights) and also greens (who had less than 10 fights).

Otherwise MArciano and Butterbean are the best boxers in history, even though Rocky barely fought a real HW and Eric barely fought a decent opponent. That's why the records MUST be "un-padded".

Marciano's "HW" record, sans, bums and cruisers... is not 49-0... it's 0-0! Fact!