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Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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Even though pac shouldnt be at that number at least soneone is trying to cut off all the options to this fight to be made before floyd retires this fight takes place.
Its all about numbers and what arum will accept from a younger al haymon and leonard ellerbe. Its about pride and whether arum is happy to go to his grave knowing his former best fighter beat his current best fighter and made more money than him.
Its all about pride, greed and stubborness!
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
The only time I'll believe this fight actually will happen is in the 12th round of the fight. Until then it could just be an elaborate hoax.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Pac is also #1 to Bradley. That fight happens before either gets to Floyd ;)
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
I've no idea if this would affect the chances of the fight happening or not, these are two of the only guys in the sport who are well and truly above the belts. Just for a lark though, how does Pacquiao's beating a man who had never fought at 147 and was coming off a loss in the division below warrant this:D
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Pacs next opponent should tell us if Bob is finally ready to try and make the fight. If he goes for a belt he loses the mandatory status so...
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Was it hagler or hearns that it took sugar ray 10 years too fight this fight will happen.
I'm more worried Bradley could beat PAC man before this fight can happen.
Call me crazy I would rather see Floyd go up in weight vs ggg or Martinez
After seeing Bradley beat Juan mr Olympia Marquez he could be the best fight for Floyd
Right after manny beat cotto he could of beat floyd
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Floyds got about a week to decide if he's going to keep the WBC 147 or 154. I suspect he will drop the 154.
Jose is not going to force Floyd to fight anyone including Manny. Floyd is Jose's cash cow. He will overlook the rules just as he has for countless headliners over the years. Not only that, Mannys placement at #1 is another magic trick. These two could not get it done for what would have been 100 millions dollars at the peak of their careers. This wont change a thing.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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IamInuit
Floyds got about a week to decide if he's going to keep the WBC 147 or 154. I suspect he will drop the 154.
Jose is not going to force Floyd to fight anyone including Manny. Floyd is Jose's cash cow. He will overlook the rules just as he has for countless headliners over the years. Not only that, Mannys placement at #1 is another magic trick. These two could not get it done for what would have been 100 millions dollars at the peak of their careers. This wont change a thing.
I agree with the thought process but not necessarily the conclusion. Jose does want that Floyd money. But consider that the WBC gets 3% of the purse. 3% of that fight is a lot of money. If Jose thought Pac would win I don't think he'd even consider trying to force it. But he thinks Floyd would beat him. Don't get me wrong, he would never lay down the law but he might push for it. And I don't think Floyd would consider dropping the belt because he knows that in the end that would decide who didn't want the fight right or wrong. There are many new problems. Bob wouldn't like 30%, GBP and TR wouldn't want to do a purse bid because anyone could swoop in and buy the fight etcetera. But it's an interesting development. Does Manny fight Provo and look to be the mandatory or does he fight Bradley and give up his mandatory status. I'm intrigued by the Dec 15th deadline, it suggests Jose wants to try. I mean look at how long he's given Vitali but Floyd got only 4 months. I'm desperate for this shitshow to come to a conclusion, any conclusion so I hope someone is really willing to try.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Floyds got about a week to decide if he's going to keep the WBC 147 or 154. I suspect he will drop the 154.
Jose is not going to force Floyd to fight anyone including Manny. Floyd is Jose's cash cow. He will overlook the rules just as he has for countless headliners over the years. Not only that, Mannys placement at #1 is another magic trick. These two could not get it done for what would have been 100 millions dollars at the peak of their careers. This wont change a thing.
I agree with the thought process but not necessarily the conclusion. Jose does want that Floyd money. But consider that the WBC gets 3% of the purse. 3% of that fight is a lot of money. If Jose thought Pac would win I don't think he'd even consider trying to force it. But he thinks Floyd would beat him. Don't get me wrong, he would never lay down the law but he might push for it. And I don't think Floyd would consider dropping the belt because he knows that in the end that would decide who didn't want the fight right or wrong. There are many new problems. Bob wouldn't like 30%, GBP and TR wouldn't want to do a purse bid because anyone could swoop in and buy the fight etcetera. But it's an interesting development. Does Manny fight Provo and look to be the mandatory or does he fight Bradley and give up his mandatory status. I'm intrigued by the Dec 15th deadline, it suggests Jose wants to try. I mean look at how long he's given Vitali but Floyd got only 4 months. I'm desperate for this shitshow to come to a conclusion, any conclusion so I hope someone is really willing to try.
The only consistent thing about the WBC is its inconsistency. Martinez had to give up his 154 strap also but Vitali got to come off a 3 year or whatever hiatus and to get an immediate fight with Peter because of his emeritus status. Jose let Roy slide until he wanted to feast etc etc. Jose never had issues with Alvarez having to belts or Garcia but routinely asks others to keep his or the other. His payout from Floyds fights must be unreal. Seems everyone is pulling out all the stops to try and make this fight. Its a real shame about this riff. It sure does hurt the sport. Its not just these two and people forget that. They both have pretty good stables and this eternal squabble is really robbing the fans.
It would not surprise me in the least to see Jose make Floyd emeritus and have the regular title fought over. Its right up his alley. Who knows. I never thought the fight would ever happen but I think there might be a chance now and not because of Manny's magic ranking.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Yeah, I remember very well how when everyone thought it would happen you were the only one saying it wouldn't. That holds a lot of weight. I guess I just see a mandatory situation is a way for everyone to save face. Neither side would be giving in to the other. Removing ego from the equation is a big step. Probably not the step but still a big one.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Tough decision for Floyd... Cherry pick Khan, an opponent with exactly ZERO chances to win and for which he will receive fierce criticism... Or Manny who whilst maybe not the previous force he was, definitely competitive and will put a clear shine on his career.
If he doesn't fight Manny- quack quack quack!
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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Ron Swanson
Yeah, I remember very well how when everyone thought it would happen you were the only one saying it wouldn't. That holds a lot of weight. I guess I just see a mandatory situation is a way for everyone to save face. Neither side would be giving in to the other. Removing ego from the equation is a big step. Probably not the step but still a big one.
I hear ya. Thing is Floyd will see this as a slight of hand because of the ego you speak of. An Arum ploy to use the Wbc and Floyd as a way to cash Manny out. Floyd will see it as Arum attempting pimp him again. I think you are bang on. If they would just leave that rock of ego at the door along with the pipe we probably would have seen them fight twice by now.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
It doesn't really matter, Floyd is now gun-shy, won't mix it up, is apprehended to engage ever since old man Moseley almost knocked Floyd’s brains out in 2 rds.
Look for Pacquiao to take advantage of Floyd's' apprehendedness by exploding on him fast and early with furious counter checkhooks, driving Floyd back to take advantage of Floyd's inadequacies regarding fighting backing up. Look for Pacquaio to TKO Floyd in the 2nd rd in a classic mismatch…
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Wow lol. If floyd takes the riddick bowe route, he's gonna look like a real bitch especially since he loves the gold and green WBC belt so much. Thrre is just no excuse if he were to dump it..
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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DavilaJones
The only time I'll believe this fight actually will happen is in the 12th round of the fight. Until then it could just be an elaborate hoax.
How do you know the fight goes 12 (rounds)?:p;)
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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Wow lol. If floyd takes the riddick bowe route, he's gonna look like a real bitch especially since he loves the gold and green WBC belt so much. Thrre is just no excuse if he were to dump it..
He couldn't surely! That would completely destroy his legacy and he knows it. Riddick was not the brightest crayon in the box and I don't think he even really knew the ramifications of what he was doing. I think Floyd will sum it up and reach the conclusion that he really should fight someone the public perceives as somewhat close to his own level.
Floyd SD Pac (it should be UD but some idiot will score heavily for Pac Mans flurries when a lot of punches don't really connect.)
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Won't change a thing. Floyd could come out smelling of roses if he lets this go to purse bid. He'll get the cut he wants and Manny will walk away.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
There's an old adage that says if you avoid a fight that is unnecessary and can still come up tops then well done. But if you avoid a fight that you HAD to fight then you are a coward and shame on you.
That's where Floyd would be at with Manny.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Try to get a grip for a change. People have been slipping mandatory fights since boxings grappling days. Of course they were not called mandatory until the 70's but it started as early as with that racist pig John L Sullivan refusing to fight Aussie Peter Jackson citing the colour barrier. At the turn of the century it was in style to avoid Langford. Later in the century Tex Rickard(and early version of Bob Arum) would steer Dempsey clear of Harry Wills fearing another Johnson type rein.
This fight is nothing like those few examples. Floyd is not scared of Manny. That notion is utterly ridiculous. This fight has nothing to do with avoidance in the way you would like the world to believe. Its a game of poker which is lame and sad but not a duck. And it might be best to wait to see what Floyd does. Btw Manny has no business being the mandatory. Lesson here is that in many cases you pay for a ranking, you dont have to earn it. Huge difference. If boxing was fair Floyd would be ranked in the top 5 of the other three pimp tin pots but he's not ranked in them at all. Says much about these "rankings" Best boxer in the world and in the welter division is not ranked because he didn't pay for their administration/corner fee's. What a joke.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
The alphabet soup rankings don't mean $#!t...
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
This is irrelevant. Floyd wins and vacates belts at will, including the WBC WW title, which he's won 4 times already. He doesn't give two shits about a title belt or a mandatory challenger.
Whether you like Floyd or you hate him, you have to face facts: not only does he hold all the cards, he owns the casino. Nobody is in any position to muscle him into doing anything.
Back in 2010 when consensus was split over who was the #1 fighter in the world, things were a bit different. Then JMM 4 happened
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
It'll be just a few years down the line where he'll be back having promoters dictating to him what they'll give him with no more caving in to demands from Floyd. It'll be small purses against lower level opponents that'll be beating him too, making a name for themselves on him... and getting the higher money than him as well. Unfortunately, that's the way she goes in boxing.
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The many organizations , sprinkled with PAC and Money cherry picking and catch weight fixing has a melody ..... Who gives a f$&k about any of the belts boxing is already in the shits ... The WBC is the biggest jester of the bunch
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
Virtually since it's inception the WBC has been the most prestigious belt imo.
Anyway Bradlee that is not true. Floyd wont be around long enough to be an underpaid old warrior guided by promoters. He will probably have 1 more fight after his contract runs out and retire a nice round 50-0 topping Marciano's record. That makes 5 more fights in total- no punch bag business for Floyd!
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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La Cucaracha
Pac is also #1 to Bradley. That fight happens before either gets to Floyd ;)
bradely doesnt want that fight.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao named mandatory challenger to Floyd Mayweather’s WBC 147-lb title
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Max Power
Virtually since it's inception the WBC has been the most prestigious belt imo.
Heh heh, that literally made me laugh out loud! I'm going to give good rep to you now for giving me a good belly laugh, good for the soul! Whether intentional humor or intentional, it's the resulting laugh that matters most... :D
