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I am up to here with Political correctness!!
A bus driver in Vancouver who has dressed as Santa for the last 20 years has been told to wear his uniform. No doubt because it might offend someone who recently came to this country to escape the trials and tribulations of their own. The sad truth here is that Santa has squat to do with religion.
Just sick and tired of this shit.
Alright then,back to my day lol
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It's easy to be offended and now people are enabling the victim mentality with shit like this, it's repulsive!
If I tell someone Merry Christmas and they don't happen to celebrate Christmas they should know that I am just wishing them the joy, peace, love, and harmony that Christmas is supposed to represent.
If somebody wished me Happy Hanukah I'd know they'd be wishing me the best, ditto for Kwanza or whatever else is celebrated. Even if they say "Happy Holidays" or something...I just accept it as a person wishing me well and what is wrong with that? As a reasonable, rational adult what is wrong with it?
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Yes I'm sick of these fuckwits telling us what we can and can't say or do.
If someone is offended by a Father Christmas outfit they can go jump.
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You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
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Master
You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
We should speak our mind that is our right , if we are pissed of just vent the anger!
Or the dickheads in charge will have it so we can't fart without getting a fine.
Also please explain how religion can be a reason , Santa claws he no religious connection at all , if anyone in the USA or uk is offended by that they can go fuck off , it pathetic we even let them have a voice on the matter , it's harmless fun for kids is all.
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If anything Santa is anti religious; Satan <same letters as Santa, In disguise taking the gloss off of Jesus,whos name wasn't Jesus, who wasnt born anywhere near christmas time.
Funny as all fuck really.:)
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People have too much time on their hands. It's become ludicrous how easily and quick the sheep have flocked to the new PC and spend more time tiptoeing around each other during the "Holidays" and make enjoying them into a job. Seriously, get this fook over yourselfs. I've seen bell ringers told they cannot actually dress as Santa, but the hat is allowed??? For fucks sake! I make it a point to say merry Christmas, and it has next to nil reflection of religion but simply the date, time and memories. If someone tells me happy Hanukkah or whatever, I say right on! What it means to me is the way I'll live the day and celebrate.
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Be good to dress up in a devil outfit and go around giving out presents. I wonder if the Christmastains would kick up or get cross + :)?
Could go one step further and give out cheap Chinese shit that breaks in under a week,books with last pages ripped out, dvds with a scratch through the last scene so it freezes, You know, all the fun things. >:D The annoying Devil.
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Andre
That my friend is fucking right on the money!
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Master
You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
On the contrary my friend. I have been tolerant for over half a century while watching my beliefs and memories be eroded. Sat idly by while the same people that fled oppression try to oppress me and nickel and dime the system I grew up in to death. What next no more happy birthday signs. Adding to this death by inches is the fact that its like I woke up one morning and everyone around me was a victim.
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Dark Lord Al
Yes I'm sick of these fuckwits telling us what we can and can't say or do.
If someone is offended by a Father Christmas outfit they can go jump.
THIS because Al is wearing coconut-scented suntan lotion and sipping a Zombie:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.48057...66252&pid=15.1
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OK I say fuck political correctness starting right now:
:D
Cant do that, if you cant walk down the street saying it aloud, you cant post it on the main boards.
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It does seem to have gone too far. Of course people need to consider others on occasion, but what does Santa matter? You move to a country, then respect that they have Santa. I don't like Santa, but then I don't won't go and visit him. It's not my right to tell everyone else that they cannot have a Santa. It is my right to say that I think Santa is a creepy, old bastard, but it isn't my right to ban him.
Nativity plays are also getting a harder time, but I have no issues with that. However, the reasons for them having a harder time are nothing to do with atheists like me. It is simply about not wanting to upset the token Muslim kids. As an older person who has wised up to the realities of religion and how it is all child abuse, I would never allow my child to take part or be indoctrinated in any Bible nonsense. I earned my first acting stripes as a Shepard, but the photographic evidence clearly shows that I was disenchanted with the entire process. As a child of atheistic upbringings, I really should not have been encouraged to take part in as warped a story as the birth of Christ.
Religion has no part to play in a classroom, but Santa isn't about religion. It's just about giving kids something fun. Religion is serious horrible shit, but Santa is just a laugh. Santa is like Peter Pan, or Thomas the Tank engine. It's only bad when adults start believing in fairy stories.
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When in Rome do as the Romans do,!!!! and when your with Brock do what he does shit
I cant believe I said that.:vd:
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Dark Lord Al
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Master
You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
We should speak our mind that is our right , if we are pissed of just vent the anger!
Or the dickheads in charge will have it so we can't fart without getting a fine.
Also please explain how religion can be a reason , Santa claws he no religious connection at all , if anyone in the USA or uk is offended by that they can go fuck off , it pathetic we even let them have a voice on the matter , it's harmless fun for kids is all.
I agree 100% which is why I think it is deliberately done my cunts to stir up hate and anger. It is so silly that the people that interpret these rules need to be exposed for their stupidity.
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Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Master
You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
We should speak our mind that is our right , if we are pissed of just vent the anger!
Or the dickheads in charge will have it so we can't fart without getting a fine.
Also please explain how religion can be a reason , Santa claws he no religious connection at all , if anyone in the USA or uk is offended by that they can go fuck off , it pathetic we even let them have a voice on the matter , it's harmless fun for kids is all.
I agree 100% which is why I think it is deliberately done my cunts to stir up hate and anger. It is so silly that the people that interpret these rules need to be exposed for their maliciousness or stupidity.
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Dia bando
When in Rome do as the Romans do,!!!! and when your with Brock do what he does shit
I cant believe I said that.:vd:
You two are going to get chased down the street. ;D
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Dia bando
When in Rome do as the Romans do,!!!! and when your with Brock do what he does shit
I cant believe I said that.:vd:
how about: hush puppy, goldfish, corn on the cob, sauteed chicken, spice man, sturgeon?
will that offend anyone?
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brocktonblockbust
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Dia bando
When in Rome do as the Romans do,!!!! and when your with Brock do what he does shit
I cant believe I said that.:vd:
how about
: hush puppy, goldfish, corn on the cob, sauteed chicken, spice man, sturgeon?
will that offend anyone?
No as long as you keep your clothes on.;D
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In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
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Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
This is the nonsense that I am on about, it must be deliberately done to incite religious hatred and cause disharmony because anyone with common sense would know there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas.
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Master
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Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
This is the nonsense that I am on about, it must be deliberately done to incite religious hatred and cause disharmony because anyone with common sense would know there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas.
To be honest I'm not so fussed because a lot of the kids were foreign and wouldn't of celebrated Christmas, but what I do worry about is by doing things like that doesn't help intergrate people of other cultures or races into English culture and encourages segregation. Its too accomidating to the point of having an adverse effect.
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Bo-Bo24
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
This is the nonsense that I am on about, it must be deliberately done to incite religious hatred and cause disharmony because anyone with common sense would know there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas.
To be honest I'm not so fussed because a lot of the kids were foreign and wouldn't of celebrated Christmas, but what I do worry about is by doing things like that doesn't help intergrate people of other cultures or races into English culture and encourages segregation. Its too accomidating to the point of having an adverse effect.
That is my point, I am sure most sensible non christain people do not mind either and it is a deliberate attempt by some extremist from either wings that are doing it to cause problems. The people that made the decision need to explain and justify it rather than let rumours spread.
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I don't see a big problem with this bus driver incident. A uniform instantly indicates the job being done. How could you possibly know the bus driver is the actual bus driver if he is dressed as father christmas? The bus could have been hijacked or something. Just saying. It's possible
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Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
anyone.. who's anal.
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Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
anyone.. who's anal.
interesting thread, that we were all debating this political correctness thing all the way back in 2013, with some posters in this thread having moved somewhat from their original positions. Times have changed but also they have not changed that much in a way!
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IamInuit
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Master
You lot sound like grumpy old men. Whatever the reason be it religion or health and safety it is nonsense done by a person who is frustrated with life and not getting enough sex. Ask yourself why you get upset so much about it? The world can be a stupid place but it is best not to get worked up about things that are out of your control and just plain daft.
On the contrary my friend. I have been tolerant for over half a century while watching my beliefs and memories be eroded. Sat idly by while the same people that fled oppression try to oppress me and nickel and dime the system I grew up in to death. What next no more happy birthday signs. Adding to this death by inches is the fact that its like I woke up one morning and everyone around me was a victim.
Truth
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Bo-Bo24
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Bo-Bo24
In my old primary school they no longer have Christmas, instead its 'Winter Festival' because they don't want to offend anyone..
This is the nonsense that I am on about, it must be deliberately done to incite religious hatred and cause disharmony because anyone with common sense would know there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas.
To be honest I'm not so fussed because a lot of the kids were foreign and wouldn't of celebrated Christmas, but what I do worry about is by doing things like that doesn't help intergrate people of other cultures or races into English culture and encourages segregation. Its too accomidating to the point of having an adverse effect.
That could be seen as biased for a certain culture if a guy can take off his required uniform for a santa's outfit, then why not an Easter Bunny outfit next holiday?;D
When I took the bus to highschool there was a driver who looked the part. Real beard, But he wore his uniform, just added the Santa hat & gave lollipops to kids.
His honest action to try to make people happy caused adverse reaction when a black driver was chided for wearing dashiki during Kwanza. (whites complained about him to the County bus system) He demanded his culture be accepted as well or none at all.
White Milwaukeans were pissed.
The right wing talk radio denounced everybody else's cultural holidays & countered by going into the history of the person who began Kwanza called them nasty things.
Minorities, to non christians & some churches (mixed races) countered and went on about the origin of Santa, & compared him to the Pagan god, Thor. Shit went sideways real quick!
Some churches turned against each other- saying it's the liberals fault, they don't want Jesus to be acknowledged. << That was countered by minority churches asking- why isn't Jesus in the shopping malls telling kids if they're good or bad? Its a day for merchants, selling, drinking in Jesus' name.
A local TV channel did a segment devoted to how many crimes were committed during Christmas & blamed it on the christians who promte Santa over Jesus.
All this stemmed from a guy who wore a Santa hat (real beard) while driving city bus hollering at each stop HO! HO! HO!:-\;D:-\;)
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Fenster
I don't see a big problem with this bus driver incident. A uniform instantly indicates the job being done. How could you possibly know the bus driver is the actual bus driver if he is dressed as father christmas? The bus could have been hijacked or something. Just saying. It's possible
In this day and age, totally possible
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maybe we are all just animals and we cant cure any of this stuff. maybe it will be always in the eye of the beholder and nobody will ever agree. maybe human beings will never rise above butchering and hurting each other. maybe some things never change and there's nothing anybody's ever gonna do about it. maybe if something could have been done about it, it would have been done by now. maybe that means its a fucking lost cause, the planet will blow up, the sun will go supernova and we will all fry.
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NoSavingByTheBell
maybe we are all just animals and we cant cure any of this stuff. maybe it will be always in the eye of the beholder and nobody will ever agree. maybe human beings will never rise above butchering and hurting each other. maybe some things never change and there's nothing anybody's ever gonna do about it. maybe if something could have been done about it, it would have been done by now. maybe that means its a fucking lost cause, the planet will blow up, the sun will go supernova and we will all fry.
I haven't had my tea can't it wait 😁 and Liverpool are playing tonight the Sun can go supernova at about 10 pm.😆
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NoSavingByTheBell
maybe we are all just animals and we cant cure any of this stuff. maybe it will be always in the eye of the beholder and nobody will ever agree. maybe human beings will never rise above butchering and hurting each other. maybe some things never change and there's nothing anybody's ever gonna do about it. maybe if something could have been done about it, it would have been done by now. maybe that means its a fucking lost cause, the planet will blow up, the sun will go supernova and we will all fry.
https://i.imgflip.com/4zu3n2.jpg
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We got a really great kick out of that one, good find there. It is so true. And it is so obvious. But then a whole school of Red Herrings shows up, swims by, and tries to change the topic to something else.
Great video. Should be required viewing by all on Earth.
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TitoFan
Chapelle knocked it out the park with this one
https://youtu.be/PFLuGVOWlkc
Loved the last line after they fired Uncle Ben & Aunt J...he says send in the land o lakes lady
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NoSavingByTheBell
We got a really great kick out of that one, good find there. It is so true. And it is so obvious. But then a whole school of Red Herrings shows up, swims by, and tries to change the topic to something else.
Great video. Should be required viewing by all on Earth.
Cracked up when he said do I know any minorities....no I don't but I feel confident speaking on their behalf!
Soldier in the confederate ice cream army, this dude cracked me up!
2pac spam;D;D;D
And the wheat thins..impossible for women to live up to, lets get some wheat thicks :rotflmao::rotflmao::lolololol::lolololol:
I've listened to a few comedians that feel force to lecture audiences- which I dont like but understand. They are the final frontier. If we get offended by comedians, damn. No way could Richard Pryor had made it in this day and age.
No way Andrew Dice Clay could've made it in this culture of softies. I'd bet that if this scene were done to day, every liberal, gay gay-liberal advocacy group would call for apologies and lost of jobs...
Fuck them...this is one funny ass minute. The (I) & the (C) were funny. But the (D) & The (K)?? :banana::lolhaha::biglaugh::toothout::lolololol::c lap:
https://youtu.be/0wGrwQuX_eA
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SlimTrae
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TitoFan
Chapelle knocked it out the park with this one
https://youtu.be/PFLuGVOWlkc
Loved the last line after they fired Uncle Ben & Aunt J...he says send in the land o lakes lady
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
We got a really great kick out of that one, good find there. It is so true. And it is so obvious. But then a whole school of Red Herrings shows up, swims by, and tries to change the topic to something else.
Great video. Should be required viewing by all on Earth.
Cracked up when he said do I know any minorities....no I don't but I feel confident speaking on their behalf!
Soldier in the confederate ice cream army, this dude cracked me up!
2pac spam;D;D;D
And the wheat thins..impossible for women to live up to, lets get some wheat thicks :rotflmao::rotflmao::lolololol::lolololol:
I've listened to a few comedians that feel force to lecture audiences- which I dont like but understand. They are the final frontier. If we get offended by comedians, damn. No way could Richard Pryor had made it in this day and age.
No way Andrew Dice Clay could've made it in this culture of softies. I'd bet that if this scene were done to day, every liberal, gay gay-liberal advocacy group would call for apologies and lost of jobs...
Fuck them...this is one funny ass minute. The (I) & the (C) were funny. But the (D) & The (K)?? :banana::lolhaha::biglaugh::toothout::lolololol::c lap:
https://youtu.be/0wGrwQuX_eA
I first looked at the "I" and the "k" as the funniest but now I'm not sure 🤣
Yes that is funny as hell and no way would that go over nowadays. Laughter is one of the best medicines and I feel like they have taken that away from us now. Let's be honest everything is too serious now and people are afraid to laugh and talk.
Glad to see those clips that is really funny bro. The other night I saw clips from blazing saddles, damn some of that shit is funnier than hell! "dock that Ch_ _ _ a day's pay for sleeping on the job."
After the poor bastard passed out in the hot sun.
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NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Chapelle knocked it out the park with this one
https://youtu.be/PFLuGVOWlkc
Loved the last line after they fired Uncle Ben & Aunt J...he says send in the land o lakes lady
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
We got a really great kick out of that one, good find there. It is so true. And it is so obvious. But then a whole school of Red Herrings shows up, swims by, and tries to change the topic to something else.
Great video. Should be required viewing by all on Earth.
Cracked up when he said do I know any minorities....no I don't but I feel confident speaking on their behalf!
Soldier in the confederate ice cream army, this dude cracked me up!
2pac spam;D;D;D
And the wheat thins..impossible for women to live up to, lets get some wheat thicks :rotflmao::rotflmao::lolololol::lolololol:
I've listened to a few comedians that feel force to lecture audiences- which I dont like but understand. They are the final frontier. If we get offended by comedians, damn. No way could Richard Pryor had made it in this day and age.
No way Andrew Dice Clay could've made it in this culture of softies. I'd bet that if this scene were done to day, every liberal, gay gay-liberal advocacy group would call for apologies and lost of jobs...
Fuck them...this is one funny ass minute. The (I) & the (C) were funny. But the (D) & The (K)?? :banana::lolhaha::biglaugh::toothout::lolololol::c lap:
https://youtu.be/0wGrwQuX_eA
I first looked at the "I" and the "k" as the funniest but now I'm not sure 🤣
Yes that is funny as hell and no way would that go over nowadays. Laughter is one of the best medicines and I feel like they have taken that away from us now. Let's be honest everything is too serious now and people are afraid to laugh and talk.
Glad to see those clips that is really funny bro. The other night I saw clips from blazing saddles, damn some of that shit is funnier than hell! "dock that Ch_ _ _ a day's pay for sleeping on the job."
After the poor bastard passed out in the hot sun.
That D dude or dudette was limber as a mofo!!!
Oh, man what a job this era is doing on us. Democratic voters overall have become total appeasers. Disgusts me everytime I hear someone has to apologize for calling a gay a candypants or one who prefers their miniwheats on the frosted side or...ok well thats what I call them :rolleyes:
Last month I heard Wanda Sykes go off on someone for making a gay joke, the nerve man. She is a comedian. Now she is a lesbian advocate 1st I guess, really makes it hard for me to wanna watch her again.
I still dont understand why Papa John had to leave his position.
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But for comedians, I have listened to Chappelle and Deon Cole to name a few stating they now get reactions from audiences on gay/lesbian jokes. Wow, so they can say nigguh this bitch that- but easy on the homsexual jokes.
Decades of rap music denigrating black women, yet the powerful advocacy groups for lesbians & homosexuals in USA had nothing to say.
Nothing when Snoop wrote the hit song it aint no fun if my homie can't have none.
Or Bitches aint shit but hoes & tricks.
Now we got to rid ourselves of native American mascots, Uncle Ben rice & Aunt Jemima...who the frig' thought these are worthwhile causes?:mad:
Dice on Hitler coming back as a midget! GOD's gonna give him a Tonka Toy body with a snap on 78 pound head and arms too short to jack his self off, now thats a fuckin punishment! ;D:lolhaha::lolhaha:
https://youtu.be/srvxrLu2gyM
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SlimTrae
I've listened to a few comedians that feel force to lecture audiences- which I dont like but understand. They are the final frontier. If we get offended by comedians, damn. No way could Richard Pryor had made it in this day and age.
No way Andrew Dice Clay could've made it in this culture of softies. I'd bet that if this scene were done to day, every liberal, gay gay-liberal advocacy group would call for apologies and lost of jobs...
I've thought about yesterday's comedians a lot too. You're right... a lot of them wouldn't be allowed to exist in today's hypersensitive world.
You see, here's the thing... and I'll keep harping on this.
We humans should be capable enough to discern between good ol' fashioned fun, and purposely offensive acts and words.
We've lost the capability to laugh at ourselves, probably driving the comedians of the past into the dustbins of history.
Comedians of the past used to begin with making fun of themselves... before making fun of everybody else. And their audiences were as diverse as could be. ALL kinds of people in the audiences.
That's all in the past now.
The pendulum has swung so far to the left, that people find themselves literally having to walk on EGGSHELLS so as to not incur in one of the great social sins of today.
Meanwhile... the evil of racism persists.
For the umpteenth time... WTF good is it to force name brand changes on 100 year-old products... while out in the real world many of the REAL racist practices and attitudes persist??
People have lost their common sense, and their ability to differentiate between what is meaningful and productive..... and what is token and superficial.
Put a Band-Aid on it, and let's keep moving. Nothing to see here.
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“if anybody here feels offended by any of my jokes, feel free to tweet your outrage on your mobile phone made by children in African mines and Chinese factories”
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this thread is making me feel like we are in a Room Full Of Mirrors and Trap Doors and Overly-Complex Interconnected Confusion where nothing really means what it just used to mean a few short years ago but then again, things still mean what they've always meant; as mentioned above, somehow the band-aids have become the "cures" and the real cures have become too obscured by narratives, alternative facts and agendas and just people I think becoming lazy and numb (not saying that about any of us). I dont see any end in sight. How far it goes remains to be seen. They say history repeats itself, so somehow it all comes back around again? Ya got me.