Why its stupid to say that Klitschkos beat Marciano ---

...its as stupid as saying that a 2013 salary for an accountant beats a 1956 salary for an accountant. Of course it does, because salaries have increased over time. And so has the size of heavyweights. So if we resurrect a 1956 accountant who was a Head Accountant and bring him to Wall Street today, its stupid to say "Oh, look! He's not making as much money as this accountant of today." Of course he's not.

Heavyweights in 1956 weighed 190 pounds roughly and stood 6 feet even. What sense is there in saying that someone that size could or could not fight the Klitschkos?

Makes about as much sense as saying that Sugar Ray Leonard could beat Larry Holmes.

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Well of course HW's have gotten bigger, but not exactly at the rate of inflation:p. There would need to be a 15 foot 1,000 pound HW champion for that to be a solid analogy these days lol. I do agree it's stupid to consider that fight though, Marciano was so much smaller than Klitschko and kind of depended on being at least physically comparable to his opponents. I tend to agree with Maxpower on this hypothetical:-X

@brocktonblockbust, although I stated in the other thread that Wlad would beat Marciano, I do agree with you here that it makes little sense to compare the two. In fact, I think it's unfair to compare any 2 heavyweights separated by many generations because it's not really a fair comparison.

True. Rocky was too small for even cruiserweight.

If Rocky was around today, he'd most likely be cutting down to fight at 175.

Really we should be asking how he would have done against guys like Bob Foster, Dariusz the Tiger, Roy Jones, Michael Spinks, ect.

He has wins over 2 of the great LHW's in Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles.

Rocky Marciano 5'10¾".

KO'd 6' 5" Pat Connolly in 1 rd.
KO'd 6' 4" Johnny Shkor in 6.
KO'd 6' 4" Carmine Vingo in 6. Vingo was in a coma for days and never fought again.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

Rocky Marciano 5'10¾".

KO'd 6' 5" Pat Connolly in 1 rd.
KO'd 6' 4" Johnny Shkor in 6.
KO'd 6' 4" Carmine Vingo in 6. Vingo was in a coma for days and never fought again.

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Yes all true however , none of those would be HW champions in this era.
Fact is Rocky was the best at his time , a long time ago.
That is all you can ever be when no weight limit is in force.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

Rocky Marciano 5'10¾".

KO'd 6' 5" Pat Connolly in 1 rd.
KO'd 6' 4" Johnny Shkor in 6.
KO'd 6' 4" Carmine Vingo in 6. Vingo was in a coma for days and never fought again.

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They had height, but I doubt they any real effective mass to them. Carmine was 189lbs so you're talking about a beanstalk there.

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Really we should be asking how he would have done against guys like Bob Foster, Dariusz the Tiger, Roy Jones, Michael Spinks, ect.

He has wins over 2 of the great LHW's in Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles.

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This! That is correct, when we appraise Marciano today we should assess his performance against the cruisers of today or the LHW division. I think too that Rocky would strip to a LHW were he around today.

To compare him to the heavyweights- is totally not fair to today's heavies, not fair to Marciano, but it's also not fair to the cruisers and light heavies today who are dismissed against such an opponent whom they really deserve to be rated with.

Brocktonblockbust has in fact started this thread with exactly my point of view... It doesn't make sense to rate Marciano against the HW's of today. It really is a different class now.

I'd love to see Roy Jones vs Marciano at 175, prime for prime.

We talk about Rocky's power at heavyweight, but imagine if he could hold his power cutting to 175. He would kill guys.

I agree. And now you can get a true appreciation of just how menacing Rocky really was! :)