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What does boxing do after Mayweather retires?
... scary thought, huh? lol...
I never gave it a thought until recently. I mean, it's not as if we don't have other exciting fighters and match-ups out there to be made, but Mayweather will leave a huge void in boxing.
It's like when Tyson went to jail the first time, or when Ali was sent to prison for draft dodging. The game wasn't the same for a very, very long while.
Even when they came back, it took the Tyson hype about 2 years to really captivate us. Even when Tyson was losing, he still captivated us with excitement and drama and what if's.
When Ali came back, those of us who felt cheated and robbed out of a few years of his prime, was shocked when he couldn't muster up the will to win the first time against Frazier. The game wasn't the same until he beat Foreman.
The game won't be the same when Mayweather leaves the sport. It won't be the same. His stint in jail wasn't even registered as him being "out of the game". Even when there were rumours about him retiring, we knew he wouldn't retire- so we didn't feel the impending void.
But, this 6 fight deal has me a little anxious. The possible match-ups are rewarding, for what's left out there. But, what in the bloody world do we do when he leaves?
Broner got exposed; Garcia hasn't captivated the fans yet, even though I feel he can; Ward is not being packaged properly by HBO and his promoters, even though he wins convincingly; Chad Dawson has been dethroned and beaten up; Wlad and Vitali were never ones that captivated us; the Heavyweight scene on both sides of the pond is un-inspiring; Donaire was beaten crisply by Rigondeaux; and Rigondeaux is boring as hell to watch.
What in the world are we to do when "the man" leaves the sport? Pac can carry it for a few years, but it won't be the same. Just won't be the same. All the more reason they need to fight.
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jesus, i cant bare the thought
honest pal, my interest in boxing is at an all time low, i think its because i have finally realised that the sport is the most corrupt in the world and big fights are more about the corruptness rather than the fight
when mayeather retires there will be the same level of corruption and big fights will still be overshaddowed by the corruption
imagine the champions league final, United v Barca, and the result more depending on whos promoter is the baddest rather than which team is actually the better
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So you wanna be entertained and captivated ?
WTF are you watching Mayweather fights for then?
Highly skilled fighter and technically superb but very very boring to watch, not his fault to be fair to him because he nullifies most opponents but theres loads of other great prospects and talent coming thru.
Boxing will go full circle again sooner or later (it has to) and I hope the Heavyweights once again become the Glamour division.
Mayweather retiring doesn't bother me at all :)
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Outside of America Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
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Boxings power is already starting to shift to the east with fighters coming from Russia and the ex soviet union. I think that trend will increase to be honest and it'll squeeze out American promoters unless someone like Top Rank starts to invest more in talents abroad as they've started to do.
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It'll be interesting to see where boxing goes in the future, as the sport is carried largely by its big stars. The scary part to me is that I don't see anyone on the horizon who can take the torch from Floyd and Manny when they retire. Ray Leonard took it from Ali, him and Tyson carried it, De La Hoya carried it, and Floyd and Pacquiao have been carrying it. These are the guys responsible for the mainstream interest in boxing in North America, who keep the sport relevant.
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There will definitely be good fights and fighters to captivate us but the void Mayweather will leave is the PPV numbers will drop and the appeal he has to casual fans that want to see him lose or win we may lose those fans. But us guys on here will be alright we have other fights n fighters to look forward to and enjoy. There is some great talent coming up at the moment and some real good future fights to be made.
Don't worry we will be alright it's just the casuals we'll lose but then again that is bad for boxing. Maybe a few years down the line someone will come up.
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Fenster
Outside of America Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
He's a boxer, he's not that big a deal in the US either. It's hard to find anything about boxing in a newspaper these days. It's all about team sports, except during the Olympics.
What would happen if Froch, Groves and Khan all retired? Would boxing in the UK stutter step, stumble and grind to a halt?
They're athletes, they have the potential to make a lot of money and entertain us, but none of them are bigger than boxing. They all can and will be replaced by and by.* Have faith, you will survive!
*Broner is the one exception. How could that piss pot ever be replaced?
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We give the andre ward the no.1 slot
And get bored to death with his fights
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When fight hype happens, Mayweather is the man that everyone pays attention to. We all know it. From Japan to Nebraska.
Who's gonna do it for the sport world wide? I don't see anyone doing it for a while to come.
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What did it do the first time he bailed??? It moved on. His division blew up and fighters got down to work. No tears shed. Boxing must be bigger than one guy and we don't need any self proclaimed "saviors" who get bent over and spanked the first time they face heavy fire either :-X We'll be fine.
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ykdadamaja
When fight hype happens, Mayweather is the man that everyone pays attention to. We all know it. From Japan to Nebraska.
Who's gonna do it for the sport world wide? I don't see anyone doing it for a while to come.
yea fight hype, then the fight is a complete let down. May has had some very boring fights. So when he retires what will I miss......nothing at all. Too many other exciting fighters out there to be wasting time thinking about floyd. If you think life is over when he retires, then you need to stop watching boxing
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Something ridiculous to get worried about....there will always be people to step into the role of "superstar". Even if there's a blood and guts fan favorite out there boxing will be fine.
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"I'll give you a free look into the future, people will keep saying that Boxing is going to die until one day you die and Boxing lives on." - Mr.pain.
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Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...
Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.
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That's Boxing...
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Mayweather only became a Draw known to the mainstream public in 2007, and from then to now is a small blip in the long, glorious, whorish history of Prizefighting since 1867 when gloved Boxing under Marquess of Queensberry rules came into effect, gradually supplanting Bareknuckes under London Prize Ring Rules by 1892.
No Boxer gets very long to make his mark in the sport...
Pacquiao's a much more widely-known global figure.
Some fighters are much more than just fighters, they are symbols for say human rights or some other cause. They're rare. Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Dempsey. Pacquiao is one of them. The boxers that are remembered are the ones that transcend the sport.
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As small as boxing has gotten in the US boxers still make tons of money and there are still gigantic fights happening in the US. Granted Mayweather is a big part of that but before him there were stars and since those stars have faded others have come around.
One has to look no further than Eastern Europe to see boxing's future. Tens of thousands attending fights, millions watching on TV, boxing is still strong but it's changing.
The Americans will once again produce great fighters for the simple reason that we HAVE to. Also with brain damage becoming a bigger deal in football and other contact sports boxing will no doubt get more participants because it's no longer the worst sport for your brain.
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I think it will be one of the best things that ever happened to boxing and on multiple levels.
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bradlee180
Mayweather only became a Draw known to the mainstream public in 2007, and from then to now is a small blip in the long, glorious, whorish history of Prizefighting since 1867 when gloved Boxing under Marquess of Queensberry rules came into effect, gradually supplanting Bareknuckes under London Prize Ring Rules by 1892.
No Boxer gets very long to make his mark in the sport...
Pacquiao's a much more widely-known global figure.
Some fighters are much more than just fighters, they are symbols for say human rights or some other cause. They're rare. Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Dempsey. Pacquiao is one of them. The boxers that are remembered are the ones that transcend the sport.
I think it's ludicrous that you would mention Pac in the same breath as an Ali or Louis...in terms of transcending the sport.
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Fenster
Outside of America Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
He's a boxer, he's not that big a deal in the US either. It's hard to find anything about boxing in a newspaper these days. It's all about team sports, except during the Olympics.
What would happen if Froch, Groves and Khan all retired? Would boxing in the UK stutter step, stumble and grind to a halt?
They're athletes, they have the potential to make a lot of money and entertain us, but none of them are bigger than boxing. They all can and will be replaced by and by.* Have faith, you will survive!
*Broner is the one exception. How could that piss pot ever be replaced?
If you are saying - not a fucking thing will change when Mayweather retires. That was basically my point too. :)
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bradlee180
Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...
Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.
That's Boxing...
There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.
Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.
The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.
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Baffles me the fight game!!!
It was only a few months ago that Floyd became the richest and highest earning althete in history ;)
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It baffles me that kids want to go to a gym and learn how to hug each other on the floor. Next level boring if you ask me. Nothing is ever going to be as exciting as 12x3 min championship rounds of boxing. Glory k1 is something new and very exciting though, k1 is miles better than MMA. This is a short video of Tyrone Spong in an amazing 30 secs of action. http://youtu.be/JRkQZfw9DSI
Holyfield was at the last glory show and he was very impressed with the action on show.
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I'm disappointed that so many people here are that niave to think Floyd leaving the sport is a good thing, or will have no impact on boxing. It's EXTREMELY short-sighted.
During Floyd's time with HBO, his PPV's generated nearly 10 million buys and well over half a billion dollars in revenue. Floyd makes a lot of money for himself, but he also generates a lot of money that goes DIRECTLY back into boxing. Because HBO (and now Showtime) and GBP can make a gaurenteed fortune off of a Mayweather PPV, that gives them the capital to put off other boxing shows. It gives them the ability to invest in trying to create new stars. It stands to reason that the more money that a company generates, the more room it has to produce and expand. Floyd is the biggest cash generator in the history of boxing. The revenue generated by Floyd made it possible for other fighters to be paid and featured on GBP cards.
Right now it's hard enough to even find a boxer outside of Floyd and Pacquiao that's PPV worthy, let alone a guy who can generate over 2 MILLION PPV BUYS like he did with Canelo. And Pac's fight with Rios only did 500k, so he's lost a lot of steam himself with the JMM KO.
So where is the revenue going to come from after Floyd is gone? JMM/bradley did around 300k I think. Even when Floyd fought an opponent nobody gave a fuck about in Guerrero, he reached 1 million.
With no real large draws left, don't be surprised to see TV networks and boxing promotions tightening their belts in regards to the number of shows put on and the purses of the boxers.
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Tam Seddon
It baffles me that kids want to go to a gym and learn how to hug each other on the floor. Next level boring if you ask me. Nothing is ever going to be as exciting as 12x3 min championship rounds of boxing. Glory k1 is something new and very exciting though, k1 is miles better than MMA. This is a short video of Tyrone Spong in an amazing 30 secs of action.
Michael Duut vs Tyrone Spong round 1 Glory 9 - YouTube
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Tyrone Spong actively trains and competes in MMA.
Back in the day, kickboxers would switch to boxing because they could make a lot more money and get more recognition.
Now they're going to MMA.
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Beanflicker
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Tam Seddon
It baffles me that kids want to go to a gym and learn how to hug each other on the floor. Next level boring if you ask me. Nothing is ever going to be as exciting as 12x3 min championship rounds of boxing. Glory k1 is something new and very exciting though, k1 is miles better than MMA. This is a short video of Tyrone Spong in an amazing 30 secs of action.
Michael Duut vs Tyrone Spong round 1 Glory 9 - YouTube
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Tyrone Spong actively trains and competes in MMA.
Back in the day, kickboxers would switch to boxing because they could make a lot more money and get more recognition.
Now they're going to MMA.
I know he does but he's had a hell of a lot of kickboxing fights. Glory is getting really big though and is growing in popularity all of the time. I'd prefer to watch that over MMA.
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Beanflicker
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bradlee180
Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...
Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.
That's Boxing...
There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.
Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.
The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.
100 years ago "boxing is dead" was being reported. You can trace the same articles throughout history.
When you, and everyone else on this forum, are long dead boxing will still be going. They'll just be a load of other nerds that have taken our place.
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It celebrates. Don't get me wrong, he's a superb fighter. However boxing is better served without the circus. I dont need half hour reality snippets of the of the guy shopping and counting money. That doesn't promote the sport, it promotes mayweather. I understand the popularity of one fighter brings casual fandom and money. Still the part of me that's a boxing purist that says enough. Nitpicking weight drains, silly outfits, silly music video walkouts...3 months of nickle and diming over who does the drug test.... and above all mediocre talents winning 1 title fight after just losing 2 and then holding out and freezing divisions and championships, vacating or breaking contracts in hope of winning the mayweather sweepstakes. Once the circus is over and the moneys all spent.. we can get back to fights. Good bad or whatever.
Now it may be unfair to lay this all at the feet of Mayweather when there are so many other offenders, but with his status in the sport, he sets the example and mayweather doest do anything for boxing. He does it for mayweather...
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J_Undisputed
It celebrates. Don't get me wrong, he's a superb fighter. However boxing is better served without the circus. I dont need half hour reality snippets of the of the guy shopping and counting money. That doesn't promote the sport, it promotes mayweather. I understand the popularity of one fighter brings casual fandom and money. Still the part of me that's a boxing purist that says enough. Nitpicking weight drains, silly outfits, silly music video walkouts...3 months of nickle and diming over who does the drug test.... and above all mediocre talents winning 1 title fight after just losing 2 and then holding out and freezing divisions and championships, vacating or breaking contracts in hope of winning the mayweather sweepstakes. Once the circus is over and the moneys all spent.. we can get back to fights. Good bad or whatever.
Now it may be unfair to lay this all at the feet of Mayweather when there are so many other offenders, but with his status in the sport, he sets the example and mayweather doest do anything for boxing. He does it for mayweather...
Love or hate his persona...there is NO ONE in boxing who is better and more dedicated at their craft than Floyd. So as a boxing "purist" myself...i appreciate Floyd...his skill, boxing IQ, and dedication/discipline are things any boxing fan should appreciate. Boxing is as much a business as other professional sports...the fact that Floyd has maximized his business potential in a sport that is notorious for leaving it's fighters used and broke...don't see where he deserves blame for that. "That doesn't promote the sport, it promotes mayweather"?! He generates more money for Vegas and HBO/Showtime as he does for himself. His opponents make the biggest paydays of their careers. He draws huge PPV numbers and "casual" boxing fans. Sorry to say...these are things that keep boxing ALIVE. Of course boxing will go on and thrive without him. But to diminish what he has done for the sport is just sounding like a hater.
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I miss the old days when someone could come out of their garage and whop some asses, they been taking boxing to far. to much money involved now, that attracted other people which didn't have a interest for boxing til teh money came along. So much corruption, bets, news, adds, tickets and bullshit behind it all. it makes me sick of it. but on the otherhand it's a sport that love and have passion for. seeing myself grown into this sport, it just to much to just throw away. All if this chit-chat about cheating, drugs, roids im not interested, when my grandpa took me to fights i didn't know anything of that, all i knew was those two in the ring are gonna give it all they have tonight, one will win one will lose. time will tell. and it was interesting. If you cheat it will be always someone who will find out, always someone that knows, and it up to you to separate it from the truth and the rumours. by all of this i wanted to say, a good fight is a good show, we came for the show.
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Rely on its new stars?
I mean boxing has always loss and gained stars
Look at canelo he's gonna be a major draw ggg major Star ward is gonna keep winning and wilder is gonna the next big thing
Boxing is just fine maybe better then its been in years
The ppv market will take a hit but even in the ufc and wwe in the last PAC man fight ppv numbers r down the ufc is gonna eventually just charge ppl like NFL UFC will have big shows on fox then you will have to pay a monthly or yearly fee for a subscription to watch all the fights.
Boxing kinda does this because you pay for showtime or hbo but maybe the prices will go up.
Ppv will slowly fade away except for porn tht will always be on ppv.
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There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.
Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.
The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.
MMA is tiny compared to the world sport of boxing.
The only MMA org that survives is the UFC, and the UFC puts on only about 220 pro fights per year.
Boxing puts on 20 thousand pro fights per year.
Boxing puts on about 220 pro bouts EVERY WEEKEND all year long.
Obviously people are making money in Boxing.
Every time Wladimir Klitschko defends his Heavyweight Title in Germany, he sells out a 60 thousand capacity German stadium, for $#!t's sake! He set tv records for most watched broadcast in the history of that country.
Yanks always think the USA is the whole world, but the USA is just 1 country, and there's about 195 other countries around the world. Too many young fellas happily swallow dana white's shovelfuls of bull$#!t when he's promoting his product, without looking at the cold hard facts. If anything, the uFC can't survive in it's present form. It's not sustainable under it's current system. Those MMA fighters' are completely ripped off financially, and their only recourse under the current system is to get organized and form an MMA Fighters Union. Right now, they get totally raped in the @$$ under the UFC's present business model which is a carbon copy of Vince McMahon's WWE pro wrestling. The UFC fights are real of course, but the business model is WWE all the way, baby, complete with non-compete clauses. The much, much larger payouts to top boxers is because there's competition between promoters to sign a fighter whereas in MMA, the UFC is really the only game in town, a monopoly, and the only org that survives...
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Beanflicker
I'm disappointed that so many people here are that niave to think Floyd leaving the sport is a good thing, or will have no impact on boxing. It's EXTREMELY short-sighted.
During Floyd's time with HBO, his PPV's generated nearly 10 million buys and well over half a billion dollars in revenue. Floyd makes a lot of money for himself, but he also generates a lot of money that goes DIRECTLY back into boxing. Because HBO (and now Showtime) and GBP can make a gaurenteed fortune off of a Mayweather PPV, that gives them the capital to put off other boxing shows. It gives them the ability to invest in trying to create new stars. It stands to reason that the more money that a company generates, the more room it has to produce and expand. Floyd is the biggest cash generator in the history of boxing. The revenue generated by Floyd made it possible for other fighters to be paid and featured on GBP cards.
Right now it's hard enough to even find a boxer outside of Floyd and Pacquiao that's PPV worthy, let alone a guy who can generate over 2 MILLION PPV BUYS like he did with Canelo. And Pac's fight with Rios only did 500k, so he's lost a lot of steam himself with the JMM KO.
So where is the revenue going to come from after Floyd is gone? JMM/bradley did around 300k I think. Even when Floyd fought an opponent nobody gave a fuck about in Guerrero, he reached 1 million.
With no real large draws left, don't be surprised to see TV networks and boxing promotions tightening their belts in regards to the number of shows put on and the purses of the boxers.
... and the money Mayweather generated went towards helping HBO and Showtime finance other fighters more comfortably.
A lot of fighters were put in the spotlight due to being on a Mayweather card. Broner is a prime example of how Mayweather can put someone on, someone with good talent, but not spectacular above everyone else.
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Beanflicker
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Tam Seddon
It baffles me that kids want to go to a gym and learn how to hug each other on the floor. Next level boring if you ask me. Nothing is ever going to be as exciting as 12x3 min championship rounds of boxing. Glory k1 is something new and very exciting though, k1 is miles better than MMA. This is a short video of Tyrone Spong in an amazing 30 secs of action.
Michael Duut vs Tyrone Spong round 1 Glory 9 - YouTube
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Tyrone Spong actively trains and competes in MMA.
Back in the day, kickboxers would switch to boxing because they could make a lot more money and get more recognition.
Now they're going to MMA.
They said that MMA Light-heavyweight Chael Sonnen made $6 mil for his last fight against Jon Jones. $6 mil for an MMA fight is really good money.
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We know boxing will survive, but what do we do in the meantime to keep intrigued with the mystique of the sport?
Mayweather had average folks interested in the sport again. The way Tyson had people interested in the sport again after the Ali retirement and the lackluster- but very good on paper- Holmes reign in the late 70's to early 80's.
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Who cares whether or not "average folk" are interested in boxing? Mayweather has only been the biggest fish since the De La Hoya fight six years ago. That's it. Six poxy years. There's always a top dog, which at the moment happens to be him.
If Tyson or Ali were from this era they would smash the living fuck out of Floyd's PPV records.
He's already retired once and that meant what exactly to boxing? Fuck all.
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Fenster
100 years ago "boxing is dead" was being reported. You can trace the same articles throughout history.
When you, and everyone else on this forum, are long dead boxing will still be going. They'll just be a load of other nerds that have taken our place.
I'm not saying boxing is going to die. I know it will always be around in some capacity. My worry is how relevant it's going to be in the future.
Boxing has never had any direct competition before. It's had other sports and other forms of media to compete with for the public's attention, but it's never had another combat sport to compete with it. Kickboxing was supposed to kill it in the 80's, but it never took off like people thought it would.
MMA has dethroned boxing as the premiere combat sport. That's just the facts. And I can only see the distance between MMA and boxing widening as big stars like Floyd, Pac, Cotto, ect retire.
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Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
100 years ago "boxing is dead" was being reported. You can trace the same articles throughout history.
When you, and everyone else on this forum, are long dead boxing will still be going. They'll just be a load of other nerds that have taken our place.
I'm not saying boxing is going to die. I know it will always be around in some capacity. My worry is how relevant it's going to be in the future.
Boxing has never had any direct competition before. It's had other sports and other forms of media to compete with for the public's attention, but it's never had another combat sport to compete with it. Kickboxing was supposed to kill it in the 80's, but it never took off like people thought it would.
MMA has dethroned boxing as the premiere combat sport. That's just the facts. And I can only see the distance between MMA and boxing widening as big stars like Floyd, Pac, Cotto, ect retire.
MMA would never be bigger than boxing. Just like Rugby won't ever be bigger than Soccer/Football.
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Fenster
Who cares whether or not "average folk" are interested in boxing? Mayweather has only been the biggest fish since the De La Hoya fight six years ago. That's it. Six poxy years. There's always a top dog, which at the moment happens to be him.
If Tyson or Ali were from this era they would smash the living fuck out of Floyd's PPV records.
He's already retired once and that meant what exactly to boxing? Fuck all.
Who cares whether average folk are interested in boxing? Any true boxing fan should want their sport to be as big and have as much cultural relevance as possible, because more cash flow = more shows, bigger fights, better purses, ect. And having John Q. Public give a fuck about boxing = more exposure, more channels willing to pick up and broadcast boxing.
Boxing is not meant to be a cult/fringe sport. It's supposed to be something that captures the imagination of even the boxing layman, where men talk and argue about it at work. It's supposed to be the hottest ticket in town. The glitz and glamour, the celebrities at ringside; a boxing match should be the place to be. A Floyd or Pacquiao fight, that's what boxing is supposed to be. It's not supposed to be "our little secret".
And Floyd retired for what? A year maybe? Before he announced his comeback? And luckily Pacquiao had a break-out year in 2008 and was there to carry the torch.
The effects of guys like Floyd and Pac retiring aren't going to be felt overnight. But the long-term ramifications are going to be severe if boxing can't start developing stars to take their place.
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ykdadamaja
MMA would never be bigger than boxing. Just like Rugby won't ever be bigger than Soccer/Football.
Believe me, as a long time fan of both sports, I was saying the same thing 8 years ago, but boy was I wrong.
MMA absolutely dwarfs boxing in terms of culture significance, and it's only getting stronger.
And I should clarify, it's the UFC that's massive, not neccessarily MMA as a whole.
The UFC has been amazing at expanding their brand and creating stars. True, larger than life, household name STARS. They have people going to MMA gyms instead of boxing gyms.
Now Floyd still out-earns the UFC (usually by a large margin), and pre-JMM KO so did Pac, but the UFC PPV's consistently outdraw everything else boxing related.
