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What hw could be a big star with the WBC belt maybe even get on ppv
I think if wilder with his style could be a future ppv draw
Arreola on all access would be great him and fury talk trash and have Mexican and Irish Fans behind them.
Stiverne winning would send Canada into a frenzy
Adamek has a big following
Perez has the style that people would love and a unique back story
Haye could be a star but he's to flaky
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Re: What hw could be a big star with the WBC belt maybe even get on ppv
Unless Jennings and Wilder are "the real deals" and can develop a huge rivalry while stepping up their levels of competition then I think the status quo for boxing will be that more and more big heavyweight fights are going to be on regular HBO/Showtime/Epix/ESPN/NBCSN just to get American people back to watching heavyweight boxing.
This is not to say The Klitschko's aren't absolute superstars, they are...just not in the US. Lennox Lewis wasn't huge in the US either. He probably did better as English was his first language and he would typically fight in the US but even then he didn't have the following of Tyson, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe. American fans are used to certain styles, certain personas, and this more cerebral style of fighting doesn't appeal to them as much.
We can ponder about "What if The Klitschko's were Americans?" and how that would play, but the issue with that is that they would have completely different personalities and would be more appreciated just for the simple fact that they were Americans. The media wouldn't treat them like strangers and "accidentally" get them confused with each other all the time.
PPV will come back to the heavyweight division in America when America produces better quality heavyweights. When will that happen? Well that is going to depend on our amateur system and getting guys to get started in boxing earlier than their 20's. I think boxing needs to be marketed as a martial art and not some sport that mindless ex-cons participate in. Discipline and hard work should be touted as well as boxing being the great equalizer when it comes to bullies/bullying.
PPV will come back to the heavyweight division, but right before it does we're going to get treated to some very good fights on regular networks and as fans we should be taking full advantage of that.
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It takes a lot more than being good and winning to captivate the public, and the only guy I see who has a chance at doing that is Deontay Wilder.
We know he has the tools. We know he has the power and athleticism. Now we just have to see how he'll do against a live opponent.
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Re: What hw could be a big star with the WBC belt maybe even get on ppv
whoever wins the vacant title should fight Wlad and there be one champ, the buzz of having an UNDISPUTED HW Champion once again would be enough for it to go on PPV
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Re: What hw could be a big star with the WBC belt maybe even get on ppv
If one American star emerges heavyweight boxing won't suddenly become PPV again, it needs a strong all round division with lots of marketable stars with a big following. I think thats a long way off, is there any future American stars in the amateurs?
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Bo-Bo24
If one American star emerges heavyweight boxing won't suddenly become PPV again, it needs a strong all round division with lots of marketable stars with a big following. I think thats a long way off, is there any future American stars in the amateurs?
That's the problem.
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None at the moment. There arent any HWs potientals good enough to headline its own PPV..
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Bo-Bo24
If one American star emerges heavyweight boxing won't suddenly become PPV again, it needs a strong all round division with lots of marketable stars with a big following. I think thats a long way off, is there any future American stars in the amateurs?
That's the problem.
Thats what I thought, Wilder was the last American boxer to get a medal in the Olympics wasn't he?
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If Wilder is the real deal, meaning he has a chin and a gas tank, he will be a big draw.
US boxing fans are ready, willing, able and salivating to support a winning heavyweight.
PPV? Hell yeah!
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American heavyweights won't make a comeback in this age of giants. If you're big enough and athletic enough you're funneled into basketball/football. Very few excel getting into boxing late. I'd imagine it's even harder the bigger you are because bigger people are generally less coordinated.
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I didn't Just say American I mean Tyson fury if some how he becomes a better fighter and wins a belt.
He could be a star in the states and the UK. People love trash talkers plus the United States has alot of Irish including me I am half Irish. I know when we see a tough Irish guy fighting we root for him. Tyson has that crazy personality that with a belt attached could sell tickets.
And no plz don't unite the belt with wlad clinchko. Lets get a fresh knew face with the belt.
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Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
He single handidly sold 20,000 tickets for the Haye fight. Hayes fight with Char got cancelled because it wasnt selling.
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ross
Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
Hate to tell ya Ross but Haye was the reason that was PPV not Fury.
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ross
Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
He single handidly sold 20,000 tickets for the Haye fight. Hayes fight with Char got cancelled because it wasnt selling.
20K tickets .....ooooh wow that's amazing. That's a third of the tickets Wlad sells regardless of opponent.
Also Tyson Fury is a dope
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El Kabong
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ross
Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
He single handidly sold 20,000 tickets for the Haye fight. Hayes fight with Char got cancelled because it wasnt selling.
20K tickets .....ooooh wow that's amazing.
That's a third of the tickets Wlad sells regardless of opponent.
Also Tyson Fury is a dope
which is the most amazing thing for me, totally astonishingly amazing
they really must only care about winning with any means in that germany and the surrounding areas
its like jonny nelson drawing huge crowds in england, it would never have happened coz his fights were utter dog shit
quite a lot better than wlads too as the proper rules applied
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ross
Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
Hate to tell ya Ross but Haye was the reason that was PPV not Fury.
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
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ross
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
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El Kabong
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Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
Not all of us Lyle
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El Kabong
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ross
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
whether british boxing fans are gullible or not @ross cant be likened to anything like the majority when it comes to opinion
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
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and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
How am I gullible? What about being a Klitschko fan makes me gullible? The Klitschko's have talent and skill they don't grab a microphone and go all WWE talking shit about everyone and then shrink in the ring like some other heavyweights we've seen.
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erics44
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El Kabong
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ross
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
whether british boxing fans are gullible or not @
ross cant be likened to anything like the majority when it comes to opinion
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
What iv said is not opinion its fact. Fury is the last active heavyweight to have been scheduled to headline a massive pay per view show that the whole world was actually interested in and Haye cancelled the Charr fight because it wasnt selling.
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El Kabong
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erics44
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
How am I gullible? What about being a Klitschko fan makes me gullible? The Klitschko's have talent and skill they don't grab a microphone and go all WWE talking shit about everyone and then shrink in the ring like some other heavyweights we've seen.
WWE is a very good scenario to use when discussing klitchko
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ross
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erics44
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
ross
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
whether british boxing fans are gullible or not @
ross cant be likened to anything like the majority when it comes to opinion
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
What iv said is not opinion its fact. Fury is the last active heavyweight to have been scheduled to headline a massive pay per view show that the whole world was actually interested in and Haye cancelled the Charr fight because it wasnt selling.
cummon @ross you are pasionate and entertaining thats for sure, and its good to be like that
but youre not very bright
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erics44
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ross
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
ross
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Again proving how gullible and desperate British boxing fans are
whether british boxing fans are gullible or not @
ross cant be likened to anything like the majority when it comes to opinion
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
What iv said is not opinion its fact. Fury is the last active heavyweight to have been scheduled to headline a massive pay per view show that the whole world was actually interested in and Haye cancelled the Charr fight because it wasnt selling.
cummon @
ross you are pasionate and entertaining thats for sure, and its good to be like that
but youre not very bright
That's unfair Eric , I mean it's a great achievement to be fighting on a bill against a former world champion , but it got cancelled twice. Almost , nearly but didn't.
That is legacy making stuff right there.
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erics44
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El Kabong
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erics44
and also a klitchko fan calling somebody gullible is the perfect oportunity scenario for the use of the saying about the kettle and the pot
How am I gullible? What about being a Klitschko fan makes me gullible? The Klitschko's have talent and skill they don't grab a microphone and go all WWE talking shit about everyone and then shrink in the ring like some other heavyweights we've seen.
WWE is a very good scenario to use when discussing klitchko
Are you going to answer the question or bitch out?
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It's bleak. If we're talking American both Jennings and Wilder have the personality of wet bread. Lets be honest and not get carried away, we have no idea what happens to a Wilder when someone else brings live skills to the table. Fury is a class clown but he knows how to work it. Unfortunately his first time on U.S tv saw him sound a complete twat and resemble a gloved circus bear fighting Cunningham. No one has a base like a Wlad, and that's a good and bad thing. And why do we want to push for more ppv?
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And why do we want to push for more ppv?
I know right? This is the best thing to happen to boxing in recent years. It's a market correction! There have been some horrendous PPV fights, anything JC Jr has been on for example. But boxing needs to be on regular tv and PPV should be used to coerce HUGE fights to happen and reward fan favorites.
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ross
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Silkeyjoe
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Originally Posted by
ross
Who was the last scheduled (active) heavyweight headlining a massive pay per view show?
Thats right Tyson Fury!
If it hadnt been for Haye he would have been a pay per view headliner.
He is the only heavyweight out there that can draw a crowd and get peoples attention.
Hate to tell ya Ross but Haye was the reason that was PPV not Fury.
Yeah... Sure it was which is why the Charr fight was selling so well that he cancelled...
It also doesnt change the fact that Fury is the last active heavyweight to be regarded as payper view, twice in fact!
Although without Haye Sky rejected all the replacements to save the bill, right? Fury wasn't big enough to even keep the date.
Will his next fight be PPV?
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The belt will not be taken seriously until Wlad fights for it and it annoys me that someone for a few months is going to be the "champion of the world" when we known they aren't even the best nationally, let alone the world.
Considering Wlad has every other belt, he should get first refusal, WBC should pick the best opponent they can think of who might beat him.
